1. rotorwrench's Avatar
    Yesterday's news about BB10 and the PB is obviously disappointing and upsetting to many, and understandably so. But, the other side of the coin is that for some of us, not much has or will change for a while. My three PBs did not die or cease working today, our PBs at work continue to plug along, my wife's and daughter's PBs did not stop playing music, stop browsing, stop receiving emails, stop creating documents..etc. The world did not stop rotating, birds didn't stop flying and thank goodness Falling Skies didn't go off the air. Life goes on. Many owners, including myself, bought a PB for what it had and did, not on speculation, rumors or promises of what it might get or do later. Never buy anything on that premise.

    I bought my first PB 4 months after it was released, after research and using it in stores, paying $599 for it. I had previously owned a GalaxyTab, had 2 iPads in the house, tried many other tablets and the PB still proved to be the better tablet for my needs and preferences. I have never regretted it. After a few months use and it being tried out at work, my company adopted the PB, eventually acquiring nine of them, replacing our ToughBooks. I have been happy and satisfied with the PB, as has my family and co-workers. Mine and my company's PB adoption came after owning and using other tablets, the PB proving to serve our needs and requirements better than the other tablets, Bridge, data staying on our phones, security, size and UI being large factors, not to mention that we and most of the industry we interact with, already used BB phones. That has not changed. BB10 was nothing more than rumor at that time, therefore our needs were not based on BB10 then, no more than they are now. The announcement changes nothing for us at this time as the PB continues to serve us well as is and will until support for it stops. At that time we move to another platform or a new BB10 tablet if available, whichever works best for us.

    While I have seen complaints of bugs and problems on some PBs since release, we have not experienced the majority of them, and those we did notice, namely browser lag and checkerboarding, have pretty much been cleared up within the last two updates. I now have three PBs, use them all for specific purposes and still do not have issues with browser lag, checkerboarding, crashes, email issues, poor battery life, etc.. The same applies to our PBs at work. That being said, some anomalies we did have on a couple of PBs at work were traced by IT to bad or interrupted downloads of apps, interrupted/bad updates and possible sideloading. FWIW, the problem free PBs at work and my PBs were never sideloaded, no OTA updates, no wipes and have all had clean, smooth updates. They also have periodic hard resets performed.

    Acknowledging that the PB has had problems for some owners, is not the perfect tablet and been lacking in areas for some, reading the other platform forums has consistently proven to show that applies to all tablets, depending on the perspective of the posting owner.

    I, nor my company-workers, nor many other PB owners are PB fanboys, but we are PB fans. We do not have the time, patience nor productive freedom to be tied to a device that does not work well for us, fill our needs and enhance our efficiency. The PB does that for us, therefore we are fans. When any of those factors are lost, found wanting or another device proves to do it better, we will move on. At this point it hasn't happened. That determination is based on OUR opinion, not the opinion of others. What applies to us may not work for others, but that makes OUR opinion no less valid than anyone else's where OUR requirements are concerned. Therefore, those that disagree with me and those of like mind, are free to do so but keep in mind that your disagreement or opinion does not make you right nor us wrong. Period.

    The whole point of this diatribe and pontificating is that while many of us were optimistic and looking forward to BB10 on the PB and disappointed by the news it isn't coming, we did not buy our PBs for BB10, nor do we need it to continue enjoying our PBs as is. I posted several times over the course of this BB10 roller coaster ride that if it comes, great, icing on the cake, if not, the PB still works for me and I'm happy with it. I'm not selling my PBs, nor is my company, nor many other satisfied owners. BB may or may not have good reasons for this, but nevertheless, I'm not getting rid of good devices nor refusing to buy future BB devices that may work well for me, out of spite or some misguided sense of revenge. If that was the response I took for every perceived slite I felt from a device manufacturer I wouldn't have a device left to buy. I've had good service and use with BB products and will continue to use them as long as they serve my needs, otherwise I'll move along. I'm a fan of any product that works for me.

    I sincerely apologize to those that have taken the time out of your life to actually read this, but I needed to get it off my chest and it's done.
    06-29-13 04:09 PM
  2. birdman_38's Avatar
    What would you like to see in PlayBook's future?

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    06-29-13 04:11 PM
  3. jyan's Avatar
    There are people that bought the PlayBook on the promise that it will receive BB10. It is not mere opinion that BlackBerry messed up big time by not delivering what was promised. If you're happy with the whole PlayBook debacle then good for you. BlackBerry needs loyalists like you to stay afloat. Everyone else will buy what fulfills their needs and if BlackBerry doesn't do it for them so be it. I don't get why people try to change other people's opinion on the matter.
    06-29-13 04:23 PM
  4. rotorwrench's Avatar
    What would you like to see in PlayBook's future?

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    Future? I honestly don't know that it has a future once support eventually stops, which I doubt will happen for a while. I feel the PB will eventually follow the path of the HP TouchPad except for those that sideload, which will probably extend the PBs useful life. As long as the PB works for me as it does now, I'll continue to use them. I currently have no need nor have experienced another tablet that I like better.
    06-29-13 04:26 PM
  5. BBThemes's Avatar
    So how's BBM workin for ya? Lol

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    06-29-13 04:30 PM
  6. rotorwrench's Avatar
    There are people that bought the PlayBook on the promise that it will receive BB10. It is not mere opinion that BlackBerry messed up big time by not delivering what was promised. If you're happy with the whole PlayBook debacle then good for you. BlackBerry needs loyalists like you to stay afloat. Everyone else will buy what fulfills their needs and if BlackBerry doesn't do it for them so be it. I don't get why people try to change other people's opinion on the matter.
    You obviously missed some of my statements or didn't grasp the meaning. I in no way tried to change anyone's opinion. I was stating mine and don't disagree that BB screwed up. I was stating that while they did screw up, it isn't reason for me to drop the PB or BB, as long as their devices work for me. I made that very clear. I'm a "loyalist" as long as a product fills my needs and I like it, the PB still fulfilling that.

    I'm sorry you purchased the PB based on the promise of BB10, many of us didn't. I never buy ANYTHING based on a promise or rumor of what it will get at a later date.
    06-29-13 04:39 PM
  7. I am JT's Avatar
    There really is no other side. BlackBerry has never done enough to make the PlayBook the success it could have been. Loads of unrealized potential. I've enjoyed it so I got my money's worth. Going forward however I will have to find something better since I have been waiting for improved functionality. When I upgraded my phone to BB10 I lost functionality but had the promise of an upgraded PlayBook. If BlackBerry comes out with a new tablet I won't be an early adopter. I'll wait until they deliver.

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    06-29-13 04:44 PM
  8. rotorwrench's Avatar
    So how's BBM workin for ya? Lol

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    It's been working great. I Bridge. Thanks for asking.
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    06-29-13 04:44 PM
  9. Hup55's Avatar
    I have a PlayBook and I have a hip street blue tooth keyboard along with a Microsoft blue tooth mini mouse. This combination works awesome for me and I Iove the PlayBook for traveling. I also own an iPad 2 which I use periodically around the house. I still prefer the PlayBook. I actually now find I use my Z10 for almost everything now over the tablets.

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    06-29-13 05:11 PM
  10. jyan's Avatar
    You obviously missed some of my statements or didn't grasp the meaning. I in no way tried to change anyone's opinion. I was stating mine and don't disagree that BB screwed up. I was stating that while they did screw up, it isn't reason for me to drop the PB or BB, as long as their devices work for me. I made that very clear. I'm a "loyalist" as long as a product fills my needs and I like it, the PB still fulfilling that.

    I'm sorry you purchased the PB based on the promise of BB10, many of us didn't. I never buy ANYTHING based on a promise or rumor of what it will get at a later date.
    Sorry but I think you're the one that misunderstood or failed to grasp what I said. I merely stated that there are people that bought the Playbook on the promise of BB10. I am sure they are disappointed with yesterday's news and I feel for them. Also I did not say YOU tried to change anyone's opinion. That last bit was merely ME stating MY opinion on the state of the PlayBook forums. I do agree that while yesterday's announcement is a disappointment, it won't change the PlayBook's current functionality. I was looking forward to getting a Z10 to go along with my BB10 powered Playbook. Looks like that won't be happening.

    Also, I didn't say anything about me buying anything on any promise. I guess you missed that.
    06-29-13 05:17 PM
  11. kbz1960's Avatar
    I use to like my pb and still use it when I'm away from home. I almost never use it at home when I have devices that surf etc. way better than it does. I also didn't realize how laggy the browser really is, I thought it was better before some of the updates, until I played with some other tablets. I assumed it was a tablet thing, I was wrong.

    For me it has nothing to do with BB10 on it, it has to do with BBRY yet again saying something that never happens soon or at all.
    06-29-13 05:29 PM
  12. charliemackbeats's Avatar
    Awesome post! When I purchased my Playbook I was just looking forward to 2.0! With every update my PB experience got better. I use my PB everyday regardless of whether BB10 was coming or not! I'm not really mad at Thorston's choice. You have to focus on what's making you money! The Playbook was rushed to market and ahead of its time. A great product that got caught in the gears of a corporate transition and forced into 'mark down' status. The BB10 platform needs to be represented on on devices that will handle it. Maybe an extra Gig of ram and better balance sheets would have made the update a reality. Every other OEM now has a 7" tab that 'borrows' from the PB (Windows 8 gestures/iOS 7 multitasking). I use what works for my business and the Playbook delivers. It has great games too! All I ask for is continued support for Blackberry (2.1.0.xxx +)! Here is a question I have for my fellow users. Why was you motive for getting your Blackberry Playbook?



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    06-29-13 05:30 PM
  13. BBThemes's Avatar
    It's been working great. I Bridge. Thanks for asking.
    Native BBM lol. Word of advice tho, don't get a BB10 phone if u bridge

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    06-29-13 05:43 PM
  14. Spook 64's Avatar
    Like many others I am also disappointed by yesterday's news. Moving on, I would like to know what will the company do about the BB10 bridge problem. I have not upgraded to the Z10 as of yet but if they don't address the bridge problem I don't see a reason to so. I enjoy my playbook and the bridge makes it the main reason why I prefer it over other tablets. Hopefully we'll hear something soon.
    06-29-13 09:16 PM
  15. toronto9696's Avatar
    Pb has no future now. The sadness will never end
    06-29-13 11:16 PM
  16. eddy_berry's Avatar
    Pb has no future now. The sadness will never end
    Cheer up.

    Like many others I am also disappointed by yesterday's news. Moving on, I would like to know what will the company do about the BB10 bridge problem. I have not upgraded to the Z10 as of yet but if they don't address the bridge problem I don't see a reason to so. I enjoy my playbook and the bridge makes it the main reason why I prefer it over other tablets. Hopefully we'll hear something soon.
    I think the lack of bridge on BB10 and not the lack of BB10 on playbook is what is keeping people from adopting BB10 as a mobile platform. I use the remote function more than anything so I'm not losing a whole lot. But I am going to miss texting from my tablet. When I'm in school, professors consider taking out your phone as rude and your tablet as taking notes. Yup I was taking notes all right and texting my girl. Gonna miss that with the Q10 but hopefully not for long.
    Last edited by eddy_berry; 06-30-13 at 10:48 AM.
    06-30-13 10:31 AM
  17. rotorwrench's Avatar
    Cheer up.



    I think the lack of bridge on BB10 and not the lack of BB10 on playbook is what is keeping people from adopting BB10 as a mobile platform. I use the remote function more than anything so I'm not losing a whole lot. But I am going to miss texting from my tablet. When I'm in school, professors consider taking out your phone as rude and your tablet as taking notes. Yup I was taking notes all right and texting my girl. Gonna miss that with the Q10 but hopefully not for long.
    I agree, simply updating BB10 to enable all bridge functions would make the decision for a lot of PB owners to adopt a BB10 phone a done deal.
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    07-01-13 12:09 AM
  18. eblade's Avatar
    It's interesting, because browser lag and checkerboarding aren't really bugs -- that's what WebKit -does-. It's kind of slow on these processors (it's built to run on monster desktops, remember?), and when it doesn't have the data that you want visible immediately in the area that it's displaying, it shows checkerboards. It does it on -all- mobile platforms.
    07-01-13 03:50 AM
  19. BBThemes's Avatar
    It's interesting, because browser lag and checkerboarding aren't really bugs -- that's what WebKit -does-. It's kind of slow on these processors (it's built to run on monster desktops, remember?), and when it doesn't have the data that you want visible immediately in the area that it's displaying, it shows checkerboards. It does it on -all- mobile platforms.
    Doesn't do it on my Z10. Think that's what people are looking at and making that comment from, not from 'monster desktops' as ya put it.

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    07-01-13 07:50 AM

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