1. Titaniumedge's Avatar
    Update 3: I have tried a few more things to no avail but I figured I'd list them here. Since I charged the battery manually the battery has not discharged by more than .3V. So my problem doesn't seem to be a power issue. I have now tried to use a rapid charger and plugging in the USB cable to see if I could make the computer recognize the PB. That didn't work so I removed the mother board and carefully cleaned and dried it using alcohol and a blow drier. That also didn't work. Apparently I'm the only person to ever have this problem happen and even Blackberry themselves are at a loss as to what could be wrong. So I guess I have a shiny paper weight with a good charger for my 9810 and a new BB USB cable. I can't complain after spending $20 on it but I am really disappointed as I was really hopeful that I would finally be the proud owner of a Playbook.

    Update 2: Ok I finally gave up on trying to charge the battery using the USB port and I carefully exposed the main battery connections and found that the batteries actually had 1.7V. After watching a YouTube vid I then cut the end off of an only USB cord, found the + and - power leads and attached an aligator clip to each. I then hooked up the leads after making sure what the polarity was and began to manually charge the battery. I charged the battery up to 3V and then checked it 2 hours later. The battery was still at 3V so I took it up to 3.5V. I thought this was going to be the answer but apparently not. Still has the same symptoms described below and shows no signs of life. I think I'm going to have to call this unit FUBAR and wait until I can afford a new one

    Update 1: After charging the battery again for about 12 hours I found that the battery has gone up to 0.98V. I just realized though that with the battery being this low the LED is probably using about 80% of the power being put into the unit, so I have disconnected the ribbon going to the LED indicator and I am going to try and charge it for the rest of the day and see if the battery can get a little more power.


    Ok before anyone blasts me for posting before researching I would like to say that I have done my research and this post is my last hope.

    I recently bought a second hand Playbook that was advertised as not working for $20. Me being a BB freak and my Wife and I just having a new baby (so no ex tra $) I said to myself "oh they just don't know what they are doing" well apparently neither do I.

    This PB was won at a Christmas party this past December and the woman who won it, was never able to get it to turn on.

    Now here's the weird part, this PB does not do what 99% of the other either bricked or drained PB's do. This one shows no signs of life at all if it is not plugged in, I will say here that I am only using the charger that came with the PB and no third party or uniusb's. Once I plug the PB in the red led comes on after about 5 seconds and stays on for exactly 10 minutes. From the hundreds of articles I could find I could not find one that showed the same symptoms.

    Here is what I have tried so far.

    #1. Just letting it charge for 24 hours

    #2. Several different Stack methods (as a matter of fact, every single method that I came across)

    #3. Trying to get the computer to recognize the PB by hooking up the USB cable, and trying several different ways to get the DM to recognize the PB. No luck, not even for that glimmer of a second like others have reported.

    #4. Removing the back casing, after going online and making sure that there was no longer a warranty, and disconnecting the battery from the mother board for about an hour and then plugging the battery back in and hooking up the charger to see if there were any signs of life. NOTHING

    #5. Disconnecting all of the pin connections from the mother board, then once again after an hour replacing the connections and trying to charge. Nada

    #6. Removing the connections again and placing insulators between the mother board connections and the ribbon connections then placing the display with the batteries in a freezer bag, removing all of the air to stop condensation, then placing it in the freezer for about an hour and a half. Then letting it warm up to room temp and plugging in the charger. Nope

    #7. I saw a post about "jumping" the battery by Knotty Rope. Turns out he has a different version PB than this one because the battery connector is completely different than the one he had. Could not trace the circuit enough to find a valid place to apply a 5V source to trick the PB into thinking it has the proper voltage.

    Now after all of that I finally (don't ask me why I didn't start with this) tested the battery with my VOM and found that the battery only seems to have 0.91Vdc.....

    I know that 0.91V means that the batteries are stone dead and probably have to be replaced and I'm ready to give up unless someone from the awesome CB Community can help me out and let me know if they have something else that I can try. Thank you for reading this to the end and thank you in advance to anyone who has an idea to try.
    Last edited by Titaniumedge; 05-06-13 at 01:28 AM. Reason: Update 3
    05-01-13 02:47 AM
  2. joshua_sx1's Avatar
    Have you tried replacing the battery with new one? I remember one member having the same dilemma as yours... he also tried almost everything (although I believe yours is the complete one) and end up buying a new battery and replace the one installed on his PlayBook...

    Posted via Z10
    05-01-13 02:56 AM
  3. Titaniumedge's Avatar
    Have you tried replacing the battery with new one? I remember one member having the same dilemma as yours... he also tried almost everything (although I believe yours is the complete one) and end up buying a new battery and replace the one installed on his PlayBook...

    Posted via Z10
    No I haven't tried to replace the battery yet. I have a bad feeling that I'm going to have to which means I'll still be without a PB for a long time yet. Thanks for the comment.
    05-01-13 03:16 AM
  4. SparkyBC's Avatar
    Why not register it. Chances are it never was and presto warranty to you.
    FF22 likes this.
    05-01-13 03:17 AM
  5. FF22's Avatar
    Why not register it. Chances are it never was and presto warranty to you.
    That's what I was going to suggest. That ONLINE Warranty check is not reliable. But if your pb shows signs of OPENING, that probably would invalidate it.

    There's the one of PRESSING AND HOLDING THE ON button for 20 seconds or so and while still pressing/holding, plugging in the charger. And are you sure that charger is working well?
    05-01-13 08:52 AM
  6. OriginalLucy's Avatar
    You can also try to borrow or buy the magnetic charger (9.99 at Amazon) and see if that jolts it back to life. Just in case the USB port is messed up. Something has to work for you.
    05-01-13 09:29 AM
  7. Chaddface's Avatar
    7. I saw a post about "jumping" the battery by Knotty Rope. Turns out he has a different version PB than this one because the battery connector is completely different than the one he had. Could not trace the circuit enough to find a valid place to apply a 5V source to trick the PB into thinking it has the proper voltage.
    I am by no means an authority on this subject but I was able to bring a small li-ion battery back from the dead. The leads that come out of the battery were connected to a small ciruit board glued to the battery itself under the wrapper . The voltage before and after the circuit board was very different. I suspect that is the protection built into the battery to prevent over discharge.
    What I did was to apply current before the board and was able to get enough juice back in that battery. I used an old usb charge an cut the plug off the end for a charger.
    Again, I have no idea what I'm doing but it worked. These batteries can be dangerous if mishandled.
    05-01-13 12:23 PM
  8. Titaniumedge's Avatar
    I wish I had thought of registering.... Damn I'm sure even though I can't see them that BB could easily see tool marks on the casing. Oh well live and learn then still be out a PB lol. Thanks for the thoughts guys lets see if this last attempt does anything and if not I'll try the mag charger my old man has then resign myself to the idea of battery replacement if it doesn't work.
    05-01-13 12:51 PM
  9. jpash549's Avatar
    Since OP is dealing with a device which has never been successfully turned on there is no telling what operating system is on it. Perhaps 1.0. If the battery is really down to 0.85 volts it is probably junk. New battery kits can be googled on the internet. Here's one result.

    http://www.newpower99.com/RIM_Blackb...20playbook.htm

    The Blackberry Knowledge base article is:


    http://btsc.webapps.blackberry.com/b...pl#documentTop
    05-01-13 02:10 PM
  10. Titaniumedge's Avatar
    I wonder does anyone know of a way to find out what version the PB is? My only indication is that the power button is raised and easily accessible making me think that's it's a later version of the hardware
    05-01-13 02:17 PM
  11. FF22's Avatar
    I'd look and see what kind of "tool marks" are evident. I'm not sure that they use a fine toothed comb or magnifying glass. But if the marks are evident .....
    05-01-13 03:14 PM
  12. Titaniumedge's Avatar
    I'd look and see what kind of "tool marks" are evident. I'm not sure that they use a fine toothed comb or magnifying glass. But if the marks are evident .....
    I've had it open so many times in the last three days that they would have to examine it in the dark lmao. Thanks for the interest
    05-01-13 09:30 PM
  13. Titaniumedge's Avatar
    Update Bump
    05-06-13 01:33 AM
  14. jpash549's Avatar
    In the first post you said the red light would come on for ten seconds then go off. From the KB article it would seem that meant it was trying to boot into charging mode. The light went off when the charging mode process was aborted for some reason. If it was because there was not enough juice in the batteries stack charging to get enough in for it to boot into the charging mode would be the best approach. If it was for some. other hardware or software reason maybe nothing would help. You have done so many things in an effort to get going that people really don't know what else to suggest. Maybe you could get more suggestions if you would post what condition this unit is in now. Does it have any responses or is it totally dead? You could get new batteries but the kit which should include the battery charging module from the battery manufacturer would cost $50+ and that might not solve the probem. If you had an external battery pack maybe you could connect it in in some way and get some sort of result.
    05-06-13 02:16 AM
  15. Titaniumedge's Avatar
    In the first post you said the red light would come on for ten seconds then go off. From the KB article it would seem that meant it was trying to boot into charging mode. The light went off when the charging mode process was aborted for some reason. If it was because there was not enough juice in the batteries stack charging to get enough in for it to boot into the charging mode would be the best approach. If it was for some. other hardware or software reason maybe nothing would help. You have done so many things in an effort to get going that people really don't know what else to suggest. Maybe you could get more suggestions if you would post what condition this unit is in now. Does it have any responses or is it totally dead? You could get new batteries but the kit which should include the battery charging module from the battery manufacturer would cost $50+ and that might not solve the probem. If you had an external battery pack maybe you could connect it in in some way and get some sort of result.
    The light comes on for 10 minutes, not seconds that's the weird part of the problem. It is in the same condition now as when I started. The light comes on for 10 minutes then turns off with no other response. The computer won't recognize it in anyway and the screen has never even so much as flickered. As you said I've done so much with no results so now all I can do is throw in the towel and hope someone comes across this post with a new idea on how to resurect my Playbook from the dead
    05-06-13 02:26 AM
  16. Chaddface's Avatar
    According to the Battery Guru website the PlayBook operates between 3.4 and 4.2 volts. My full charge is 4.17 . I would try 4 volts to rule out out low voltage.
    05-06-13 05:43 AM
  17. Titaniumedge's Avatar
    I'm still at it lol. Tried everything posted above again and a few new stack charging methods still with no results.

    Going to keep at it (No I don't know when to give up)
    05-22-13 03:37 PM
  18. jpash549's Avatar
    What are the battery voltages now?

    Did you check the reference I posted in your previous thread where a forum member charged a unit by directly connecting a 12 volt source to the pogo pins? He ran tests on charging at a little less than 12 volts.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using CB Forums mobile app
    05-22-13 07:33 PM
  19. Titaniumedge's Avatar
    Right now the battery tests at 3.9V DC. I took apart a multi volt charger and used it to charge it up but still nothing more than the red led for 10 minutes
    05-22-13 07:44 PM
  20. Gooseberry Falls's Avatar
    Shoot, thought you'd posted you got it working. Thought about you when 1saleaday had the 64 gb for $129 on the ebay deal of the day. Hoped you saw it.
    05-22-13 07:50 PM
  21. Titaniumedge's Avatar
    Shoot, thought you'd posted you got it working. Thought about you when 1saleaday had the 64 gb for $129 on the ebay deal of the day. Hoped you saw it.
    Unfortunately there are a lot of them for private sale locally but I can't afford one, that's why I bought this one for $20 and wont give up.
    05-22-13 08:24 PM
  22. jpash549's Avatar
    Right now the battery tests at 3.9V DC. I took apart a multi volt charger and used it to charge it up but still nothing more than the red led for 10 minutes
    Sounds ike stack charging is not the answer.
    05-22-13 08:29 PM
  23. Titaniumedge's Avatar
    Sounds ike stack charging is not the answer.
    I know I just keep hoping that if I keep trying it will eventually start working.
    05-22-13 08:35 PM
  24. Titaniumedge's Avatar
    Ok I'm finally giving up. I've packed the PB back in it's box and exiled it to the basement storage room. I was going to send it to Thor so they could look at it and see what the problem was, but I've decided to stop wasting my time and money on this project. Thanks for everyones ideas!
    05-23-13 09:03 AM
  25. jpash549's Avatar
    Ok I'm finally giving up. I've packed the PB back in it's box and exiled it to the basement storage room. I was going to send it to Thor so they could look at it and see what the problem was, but I've decided to stop wasting my time and money on this project. Thanks for everyones ideas!
    Maybe a good rest is the answer. Possibly something will be suggested in a developers forum. There is apparently a defect in the boot process or maybe hardware which might be approachable by some combination of button pushing. I'm assuming you tried the hard reset a couple of times after you got the batteries juiced up.


    Sent from my Nexus 7 using CB Forums mobile app
    05-23-13 01:19 PM

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