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  1. antiRIM's Avatar
    iOS 6 Safari still beats the competition with HTML5 rendering | iMore.com


    EDIT: iMore has edited the article and also cleared up all the confusion.
    Last edited by antiRIM; 08-12-12 at 02:46 PM. Reason: In article
    08-11-12 12:51 AM
  2. Just Me's Avatar
    iOS 6 Safari still beats the competition with HTML5 rendering | iMore.com

    Sorry but this one has me steaming!

    "Blackberry OS 2.0 (current) is a 373, OS 2.1 soon to be released is a 393 and BB10 is a 447... IOS 6 is 360.... yea they sure are beating up the competition." <--(my post on imore)

    They claimed that iOS 6 Safari 'still' beats the competition????? The only Blackberry OS they beat was Tablet OS 1.0

    Congrats Apple on finally beating our 1.5 year old browser.
    Before you get too worked up, I'm not sure that higher score equates to the rendering speed. It had been my experience that the PB renders a bit slower than the fruityPad. I still prefer to wait on my PB a little rather than miss out on the flash content.
    08-11-12 01:31 AM
  3. antiRIM's Avatar
    Ok apparently the source imore used was wpcentral (where it was originally posted) and wpcentral updated the article just after iMore had posted. This made it seem like iMore purposely skipped Blackberry when all along they just needed to update the article. ALL IS GOOD NOW SO PLEASE KEEP IT CLEAN.
    Last edited by antiRIM; 08-12-12 at 02:50 PM. Reason: Edited 3:53 PM EST 8/12/12
    08-11-12 01:39 AM
  4. Bla1ze's Avatar
    Before you get too worked up, I'm not sure that higher score equates to the rendering speed. It had been my experience that the PB renders a bit slower than the fruityPad. I still prefer to wait on my PB a little rather than miss out on the flash content.
    Doesn't matter, the direct rendering speed isn't taken into account.. the overall score was in which case, the PlayBook running 2.1 (even 2.0) comes out on top, never mind the fact the BB10 Dev Alpha beats all the noted ones as well, lol.
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    08-11-12 01:45 AM
  5. Bla1ze's Avatar
    Ok but apparently the source imore used was wpcentral (where it was originally posted) and on wpcentral they show that BB 10 "crushes" the competition, but imore skipped that part on their website. I just think it slezzy of imore to title it like that and misinform 99.99% of the people that skim by it.

    I'll address it with the editors. I kinda know them.... lol
    08-11-12 01:49 AM
  6. antiRIM's Avatar
    Hey Bla1ze, your not to far from ...... 5000
    08-11-12 02:41 AM
  7. BBPandy's Avatar
    iOS 6 Safari still beats the competition with HTML5 rendering | iMore.com

    Sorry but this one has me steaming!

    "Blackberry OS 2.0 (current) is a 373, OS 2.1 soon to be released is a 393 and BB10 is a 447... IOS 6 is 360.... yea they sure are beating up the competition." <--(my post on imore)

    They claimed that iOS 6 Safari 'still' beats the competition????? The only Blackberry OS they beat was Tablet OS 1.0

    Congrats Apple on finally beating our 1.5 year old browser.
    I posted there too
    You beat me to it. When I first read this article I thought iOS6 must have beaten BB10, or at the VERY least PB 2.0......but I see that they did not. This article is VERY misleading. It's like comparing a Porche to a Ford Focus & saying SEE we beat the competition.

    BTW Congrats, the yet to be released iOS 6 does beat the 1.5 year old PlayBook OS 1.0 Browser
    I thought of posting it here but was scared it would draw people to the imore site that would then flame them....hope that doesn't happen. I suspect it was just an oversite by the author (atleast I hope it was) I'm sure iMore will print a retraction stating that they had neglected to look at BlackBerry or Chrome (atleast I hope they will)
    08-11-12 02:45 AM
  8. BBPandy's Avatar
    BTW does anyone know what BB10 scores on Sunspider?
    SunSpider JavaScript Benchmark
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    08-11-12 02:50 AM
  9. Just Me's Avatar
    Doesn't matter, the direct rendering speed isn't taken into account.. the overall score was in which case, the PlayBook running 2.1 (even 2.0) comes out on top, never mind the fact the BB10 Dev Alpha beats all the noted ones as well, lol.
    What is the browser like in the BB10 Dev Alpha world anyway? Is it as great as the score leads us to beleive?
    08-11-12 02:50 AM
  10. jeroen_13's Avatar
    Lol we just pwnd Imore
    08-11-12 03:15 AM
  11. varunsain's Avatar
    CB has trolls.. iMore is a troll forum!
    08-11-12 03:16 AM
  12. luqman24's Avatar
    Lol I love how they've completely left out bb10's score of 477 let alone Playbook OS2.1 beta's score of 393 which still beats iOS 6's score of 360. And apperantly it "still beats the competition". What biased article that is lol.
    08-11-12 03:24 AM
  13. russnash's Avatar
    BTW does anyone know what BB10 scores on Sunspider?
    SunSpider JavaScript Benchmark
    Just ran sunspider on my PB running 2.1.0.560 and my Dev Alpha running 10.0.6.386:

    PlayBook:

    ============================================
    RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
    --------------------------------------------
    Total: 2443.7ms +/- 1.0%
    --------------------------------------------

    3d: 376.7ms +/- 1.0%
    cube: 140.2ms +/- 0.6%
    morph: 79.5ms +/- 0.6%
    raytrace: 157.0ms +/- 2.4%

    access: 287.7ms +/- 3.1%
    binary-trees: 47.2ms +/- 22.8%
    fannkuch: 105.2ms +/- 0.8%
    nbody: 95.2ms +/- 1.7%
    nsieve: 40.1ms +/- 5.1%

    bitops: 145.9ms +/- 0.8%
    3bit-bits-in-byte: 19.9ms +/- 3.1%
    bits-in-byte: 27.2ms +/- 2.1%
    bitwise-and: 48.0ms +/- 1.0%
    nsieve-bits: 50.8ms +/- 1.5%

    controlflow: 19.7ms +/- 3.0%
    recursive: 19.7ms +/- 3.0%

    crypto: 232.6ms +/- 1.0%
    aes: 131.3ms +/- 1.1%
    md5: 67.1ms +/- 3.6%nnn
    sha1: 34.2ms +/- 0.9%

    date: 408.7ms +/- 0.6%
    format-tofte: 225.6ms +/- 0.9%
    format-xparb: 183.1ms +/- 1.0%

    math: 173.5ms +/- 0.6%
    cordic: 46.2ms +/- 1.2%
    partial-sums: 80.3ms +/- 0.9%
    spectral-norm: 47.0ms +/- 1.4%

    regexp: 118.9ms +/- 0.7%
    dna: 118.9ms +/- 0.7%

    string: 680.0ms +/- 2.6%
    base64: 64.6ms +/- 3.1%
    fasta: 88.3ms +/- 3.9%
    tagcloud: 135.5ms +/- 0.3%
    unpack-code: 280.0ms +/- 1.7%
    validate-input: 111.6ms +/- 11.0%:

    Dev Alpha:

    ============================================
    RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
    --------------------------------------------
    Total: 2168.6ms +/- 0.4%
    --------------------------------------------

    3d: 337.1ms +/- 0.5%
    cube: 123.0ms +/- 0.9%
    morph: 76.4ms +/- 1.1%
    raytrace: 137.7ms +/- 1.0%

    access: 267.5ms +/- 0.7%
    binary-trees: 33.4ms +/- 6.7%
    fannkuch: 107.6ms +/- 1.8%
    nbody: 88.4ms +/- 0.6%
    nsieve: 38.1ms +/- 1.9%

    bitops: 151.8ms +/- 0.6%
    3bit-bits-in-byte: 20.4ms +/- 2.4%
    bits-in-byte: 28.9ms +/- 0.8%
    bitwise-and: 50.9ms +/- 1.2%
    nsieve-bits: 51.6ms +/- 1.0%

    controlflow: 19.6ms +/- 1.9%
    recursive: 19.6ms +/- 1.9%

    crypto: 181.3ms +/- 1.4%
    aes: 89.9ms +/- 0.8%
    md5: 58.0ms +/- 1.5%
    sha1: 33.4ms +/- 6.2%

    date: 298.6ms +/- 1.3%
    format-tofte: 150.7ms +/- 2.3%
    format-xparb: 147.9ms +/- 0.8%

    math: 179.4ms +/- 0.9%
    cordic: 47.9ms +/- 0.8%
    partial-sums: 84.2ms +/- 1.1%
    spectral-norm: 47.3ms +/- 1.4%

    regexp: 103.8ms +/- 0.9%
    dna: 103.8ms +/- 0.9%

    string: 629.5ms +/- 1.0%
    base64: 64.9ms +/- 4.6%
    fasta: 87.4ms +/- 0.6%
    tagcloud: 116.7ms +/- 2.5%
    unpack-code: 246.8ms +/- 0.9%
    validate-input: 113.7ms +/- 4.5%
    08-11-12 07:07 AM
  14. rkennedy01's Avatar
    Methinks you have a problem with your PB as I'm getting under 2100 on PB OS 2.1:

    RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
    --------------------------------------------
    Total: 2098.0ms +/- 0.6%
    --------------------------------------------

    3d: 315.7ms +/- 0.4%
    cube: 115.3ms +/- 0.7%
    morph: 76.5ms +/- 0.9%
    raytrace: 123.9ms +/- 0.5%

    access: 250.4ms +/- 0.8%
    binary-trees: 32.0ms +/- 5.3%
    fannkuch: 103.4ms +/- 0.6%
    nbody: 77.7ms +/- 0.6%
    nsieve: 37.3ms +/- 1.6%

    bitops: 141.7ms +/- 0.8%
    3bit-bits-in-byte: 19.1ms +/- 4.1%
    bits-in-byte: 26.4ms +/- 1.4%
    bitwise-and: 47.7ms +/- 1.0%
    nsieve-bits: 48.5ms +/- 0.8%

    controlflow: 18.5ms +/- 2.0%
    recursive: 18.5ms +/- 2.0%

    crypto: 169.2ms +/- 1.5%
    aes: 88.0ms +/- 2.5%
    md5: 51.3ms +/- 0.9%
    sha1: 29.9ms +/- 2.1%

    date: 291.9ms +/- 1.0%
    format-tofte: 148.9ms +/- 1.8%
    format-xparb: 143.0ms +/- 0.7%

    math: 166.3ms +/- 0.4%
    cordic: 45.2ms +/- 0.7%
    partial-sums: 76.7ms +/- 0.9%
    spectral-norm: 44.4ms +/- 0.8%

    regexp: 98.3ms +/- 1.2%
    dna: 98.3ms +/- 1.2%

    string: 646.0ms +/- 1.0%
    base64: 62.4ms +/- 2.9%
    fasta: 85.8ms +/- 2.2%
    tagcloud: 120.0ms +/- 3.4%
    unpack-code: 260.8ms +/- 1.2%
    validate-input: 117.0ms +/- 1.2

    Sent from my BlackBerry Runtime for Android Apps using Tapatalk 2
    08-11-12 09:05 AM
  15. THBW's Avatar
    Hey listen, that article tells us something very important in regards to iOS6 and Apple's current thinking. Clearly, they are concerned with the fact that they are trailing the pack in HTML rendering. 360 is decidedly mediocre and it once again reminds me that Apple appears to be struggling with its OS. I mean really, this is the best you can do with your new OS. It pretty much tells us there will be few if any surprises coming from Apple in September. My bet is that they will trot out the old retina display (blah, blah, blah) and tout the new 7 inch iPAD.

    My bet is that BB10 will have plenty of surprises. I have a friend or two working in Waterloo and the rumors are quite interesting. Mr Hein's statement about building the most advanced communication platform across devices is quite telling. If what I heard is correct, RIM's timing for BB10 will be perfect.

    Although one can't trust rumor's, if correct, RIM'S is about to turn the table in the mobile communication field. Mr Hein's, you will either be remembered as the goat or a clever, clever man. I think it will be the latter.
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    08-11-12 09:10 AM
  16. Rene Ritchie's Avatar
    Ok but apparently the source imore used was wpcentral (where it was originally posted) and on wpcentral they show that BB 10 "crushes" the competition, but imore skipped that part on their website. I just think it slezzy of imore to title it like that and misinform 99.99% of the people that skim by it.
    Nah, what happened was this:

    1. WPCentral posted about Safari vs. IE
    2. iMore linked to their post
    3. Kevin started yelling about PlayBook
    4. CB posted
    5. WPCentral updated
    6. iMore hasn't yet but will today

    Typically every time a major browser updates, it's the fastest until the next browser updates. IE might be a little more interesting because it's the only one not on WebKit now, but they're all so close it makes almost no difference to humans.

    But we'll update to include the PlayBook as well, because Bla1ze as per usual kicked on his post.
    08-11-12 09:23 AM
  17. RoseBud68's Avatar
    Wow first time I see Rene post here....
    08-11-12 10:10 AM
  18. Sarcasm Detector's Avatar
    imore article has been updated.

    some retroactive cya :P


    Sent from my BlackBerry 9860
    08-11-12 10:26 AM
  19. diegonei's Avatar
    Interestingly, our other sibling site, CrackBerry.com pointed out that RIM's still-in-beta browser, Torch on BlackBerry 10, pulls off a staggering 447 points plus 10 bonus points. So the bar for everyone is clearly still being raised
    Soooo... What about the PlayBook (373 on oficial 2.0.1)? And who on Earth still calls the browser "Torch"?

    Oh yes, URL still reads the same.
    Last edited by diegonei; 08-11-12 at 11:02 AM.
    08-11-12 11:00 AM
  20. BBPandy's Avatar
    Wow first time I see Rene post here....
    yea me too, & yet it seems he has posted here 15 other times



    Soooo... What about the PlayBook (373 on oficial 2.0.1)? And who on Earth still calls the browser "Torch"?
    Apparently people from iMore lol
    iOS 6 Safari gets compared to Windows Phone 8 Internet Explorer, loses in JavaScript, wins in HTML5 | iMore.com
    Last edited by bbpandy; 08-11-12 at 12:13 PM.
    08-11-12 12:09 PM
  21. mikeo007's Avatar
    Nah, what happened was this:

    1. WPCentral posted about Safari vs. IE
    2. iMore linked to their post
    3. Kevin started yelling about PlayBook
    4. CB posted
    5. WPCentral updated
    6. iMore hasn't yet but will today

    Typically every time a major browser updates, it's the fastest until the next browser updates. IE might be a little more interesting because it's the only one not on WebKit now, but they're all so close it makes almost no difference to humans.

    But we'll update to include the PlayBook as well, because Bla1ze as per usual kicked on his post.
    You forgot about the part where a whole bunch of Crackberry members hopped onto the iMore article and started acting like ********. A simple "You forgot the Playbook, and it did better" would have been more than sufficient. Way to make us look good gang...
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    08-11-12 12:15 PM
  22. Andrew4life's Avatar
    Methinks you have a problem with your PB as I'm getting under 2100 on PB OS 2.1:

    RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
    --------------------------------------------
    Total: 2098.0ms +/- 0.6%
    --------------------------------------------

    3d: 315.7ms +/- 0.4%
    cube: 115.3ms +/- 0.7%
    morph: 76.5ms +/- 0.9%
    raytrace: 123.9ms +/- 0.5%

    access: 250.4ms +/- 0.8%
    binary-trees: 32.0ms +/- 5.3%
    fannkuch: 103.4ms +/- 0.6%
    nbody: 77.7ms +/- 0.6%
    nsieve: 37.3ms +/- 1.6%

    bitops: 141.7ms +/- 0.8%
    3bit-bits-in-byte: 19.1ms +/- 4.1%
    bits-in-byte: 26.4ms +/- 1.4%
    bitwise-and: 47.7ms +/- 1.0%
    nsieve-bits: 48.5ms +/- 0.8%

    controlflow: 18.5ms +/- 2.0%
    recursive: 18.5ms +/- 2.0%

    crypto: 169.2ms +/- 1.5%
    aes: 88.0ms +/- 2.5%
    md5: 51.3ms +/- 0.9%
    sha1: 29.9ms +/- 2.1%

    date: 291.9ms +/- 1.0%
    format-tofte: 148.9ms +/- 1.8%
    format-xparb: 143.0ms +/- 0.7%

    math: 166.3ms +/- 0.4%
    cordic: 45.2ms +/- 0.7%
    partial-sums: 76.7ms +/- 0.9%
    spectral-norm: 44.4ms +/- 0.8%

    regexp: 98.3ms +/- 1.2%
    dna: 98.3ms +/- 1.2%

    string: 646.0ms +/- 1.0%
    base64: 62.4ms +/- 2.9%
    fasta: 85.8ms +/- 2.2%
    tagcloud: 120.0ms +/- 3.4%
    unpack-code: 260.8ms +/- 1.2%
    validate-input: 117.0ms +/- 1.2

    Sent from my BlackBerry Runtime for Android Apps using Tapatalk 2
    I'm getting a score of 2322ms on my PB, so there seems to be a bit of a variance depending on what you have installed. (I am on OS 2.1.560 Beta, on a 16GB playbook)
    08-11-12 02:33 PM
  23. antiRIM's Avatar
    You forgot about the part where a whole bunch of Crackberry members hopped onto the iMore article and started acting like ********. A simple "You forgot the Playbook, and it did better" would have been more than sufficient. Way to make us look good gang...
    Look all is good now. At least they have the decency to come her and say that it was misunderstood and clear things up.
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    08-11-12 03:01 PM
  24. Rimfun's Avatar
    here are my results from the new iPad.

    ============================================
    RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
    --------------------------------------------
    Total: 1826.7ms +/- 0.3%
    --------------------------------------------

    3d: 213.5ms +/- 0.7%
    cube: 72.2ms +/- 1.4%
    morph: 57.9ms +/- 0.4%
    raytrace: 83.4ms +/- 0.7%

    access: 232.4ms +/- 0.4%
    binary-trees: 51.5ms +/- 1.2%
    fannkuch: 96.1ms +/- 0.4%
    nbody: 56.0ms +/- 0.6%
    nsieve: 28.8ms +/- 2.6%

    bitops: 140.1ms +/- 0.6%
    3bit-bits-in-byte: 23.0ms +/- 0.0%
    bits-in-byte: 29.4ms +/- 1.3%
    bitwise-and: 37.8ms +/- 1.7%
    nsieve-bits: 49.9ms +/- 0.5%

    controlflow: 15.4ms +/- 2.4%
    recursive: 15.4ms +/- 2.4%

    crypto: 122.9ms +/- 0.6%
    aes: 70.1ms +/- 0.8%
    md5: 29.6ms +/- 1.2%
    sha1: 23.2ms +/- 1.3%

    date: 285.5ms +/- 0.6%
    format-tofte: 145.5ms +/- 1.0%
    format-xparb: 140.0ms +/- 0.7%

    math: 175.1ms +/- 0.5%
    cordic: 61.6ms +/- 0.8%
    partial-sums: 74.5ms +/- 0.7%
    spectral-norm: 39.0ms +/- 0.9%

    regexp: 70.4ms +/- 0.5%
    dna: 70.4ms +/- 0.5%

    string: 571.4ms +/- 1.2%
    base64: 83.3ms +/- 1.0%
    fasta: 67.2ms +/- 1.3%
    tagcloud: 111.1ms +/- 4.3%
    08-11-12 03:43 PM
  25. texazzpete's Avatar
    Well, with a HTML 5 rendering score of 450, Dolphin HD on Android seems to be the front-runner for now

    Dolphin Browser Claims 450+ HTML5 Test Score – Beats BlackBerry 10 Just a Little - N4BB

    These things change like magic though and I don't think this is really any indication of browser rendering speed anyway.

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    08-12-12 05:38 AM
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