If BB Goes belly Up - How much $ should Thorsten get?

I've read that Thorsten Heins would get around $55.6 million if BlackBerry got bought out and he got the punt...I find this grossly unfair and way too much money. Money much better spent on paying some REAL COMPETENT DEVS to fix the problems with the current PlayBook and bring it back to life. If he actually gets this amount of money should BB go under then I hope they pay him in un-bought PlayBooks. thorsten heins posts on CNET

It also says he'd make $22 million if shareholders got smart and fired his a$$...how sickening. No wonder this company is screwed...

I imagine that's based on compensation for stock he owns.

PlayBook is old news.

Whatever he negotiated and the board approves.

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Give him a refurbished playbook and send him on his way.

Originally Posted by SCrid2000

PlayBook is old news.

Old news or not, in case you missed it, this is the PLAYBOOK FORUM. Don't you hang out in the BB 10 forums now?

He should have all of his teeth extracted without benefit of any freezing or pain killers.

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Originally Posted by chaosdivine

Old news or not, in case you missed it, this is the PLAYBOOK FORUM. Don't you hang out in the BB 10 forums now?

I go all over crackberry lol. Yeah, it sucks that the PlayBook isn't getting BB10. But it was a business decision that was made by people who are much better informed about the company that you or I. PlayBook still works well on 2.1, if you can't be satisfied with a 3 year old tablet as it is you should just get a new tablet.

Originally Posted by SCrid2000

I go all over crackberry lol. Yeah, it sucks that the PlayBook isn't getting BB10. But it was a business decision that was made by people who are much better informed about the company that you or I. PlayBook still works well on 2.1, if you can't be satisfied with a 3 year old tablet as it is you should just get a new tablet.

You're right BlackBerry Tablet OS remains a stable functional operating system and user environment so why can't BlackBerry continue its development? They stated they are supporting BBOS 7 along with BB 10 so why not BBTOS as well? The management of the company has so little faith in BlackBerry OS 10 that the decision to released BBOS 7 was made.

SCrid2000 since you are a recent law school graduate why not apply to BlackBerry's "crack" legal team? I'm sure they're going to requires lots of lawyers/attorneys SOON.

Originally Posted by SCrid2000

I go all over crackberry lol. Yeah, it sucks that the PlayBook isn't getting BB10. But it was a business decision that was made by people who are much better informed about the company that you or I. PlayBook still works well on 2.1, if you can't be satisfied with a 3 year old tablet as it is you should just get a new tablet.

I still love my PlayBook very much thank you. It does have some well described problems, but, this tablet still kicks major booty. I can't tell you how many times I put down my Cynaogen Mod running HP TouchPad and come back to the PlayBook just because of it's gestures, simplicity, killer sound, awesome camera (thanks to Advanced Camera) and bright screen in the outdoors...

Really, it's such a fitting epitaph for BlackBerry to put the BB 10 Spawn out to pasture before realizing it's full potential - a clearly missed opportunity. Better informed you say? Hardly, they've probably never queried their customers at all or else they'd realize that they were on to something great but it just needed some fixing. That's what happens when a company can't get out of it's own way and listen to it's customers. It simply needed easy fixes and minor updates. It didn't need a hub...the resource eating hub is what killed the PlayBook. Nothing else except inept decision making.

Originally Posted by chaosdivine

Really, it's such a fitting epitaph for BlackBerry to put the BB 10 Spawn out to pasture before realizing it's full potential - a clearly missed opportunity. Better informed you say? Hardly, they've probably never queried their customers at all or else they'd realize that they were on to something great but it just needed some fixing. That's what happens when a company can't get out of it's own way and listen to it's customers. It simply needed easy fixes and minor updates. It didn't need a hub...the resource eating hub is what killed the PlayBook. Nothing else except inept decision making.

I am with you on this. How can a company just not 'get it' so often, and for so long? Customers of either sort (business and private) are their bread and butter, and shouldn't be dismissed with such callous disregard. It isn't the fact that it is old, and we should just move on, it is the same repeat pattern of lies, lateness, and less-than-expected that we get. I don't believe a word they say anymore. To me, BlackBerry is still RIM (Rectalcraniosis Is Malignant).

Originally Posted by cmdr_dan

I am with you on this. How can a company just not 'get it' so often, and for so long? Customers of either sort (business and private) are their bread and butter, and shouldn't be dismissed with such callous disregard. It isn't the fact that it is old, and we should just move on, it is the same repeat pattern of lies, lateness, and less-than-expected that we get. I don't believe a word they say anymore. To me, BlackBerry is still RIM (Rectalcraniosis Is Malignant).

Microsoft springs to mind as another company that "just doesn't get it". Zune, Vista, Windows 8, RT tablets and if you go way back I even once bought a MS Wireless Router too (MN-700) that was pure crap and EOL'ed. HP is up there too at the top of this list (RIP webOS) oh, and don't forget Nokia who is sleeping and dying with Microsoft these days...

Originally Posted by chaosdivine

Microsoft springs to mind as another company that "just doesn't get it". Zune, Vista, Windows 8, RT tablets and if you go way back I even once bought a MS Wireless Router too (MN-700) that was pure crap and EOL'ed. HP is up there too at the top of this list (RIP webOS).

You misspelled "Micro$oft" ;)
To me, HP stands for "high priced" or "horse pucky."

If you live long enough, you will see the rise and fall of many companies. Remember Palm? How about Lotus 123? After a failure like the Apple Newton, who could have imagined the iPod, iPhone and iPad? Yet, it possible that Apple may meet its demise. Blackberry had a very good run, but in all likelihood, its best days are behind them. Will you refuse to disembark at the next safe harbor, or will you get sucked under by the wake of the "next best thing?" It is better to savor the good old days, reminiscing on how Blackberry moved the computer age forward to higher heights, than to become the old man who has become bitter because has the best steak in the world before, but no teeth to chew it with.

Originally Posted by Kevin Walker6

If you live long enough, you will see the rise and fall of many companies. Remember Palm? How about Lotus 123? After a failure like the Apple Newton, who could have imagined the iPod, iPhone and iPad? Yet, it possible that Apple may meet its demise. Blackberry had a very good run, but in all likelihood, its best days are behind them. Will you refuse to disembark at the next safe harbor, or will you get sucked under by the wake of the "next best thing?" It is better to savor the good old days, reminiscing on how Blackberry moved the computer age forward to higher heights, than to become the old man who has become bitter because has the best steak in the world before, but no teeth to chew it with.

Yes, Kevin, I remember all of those companies, and I agree with you. I will use my BB devices until they quit working, then see where to go from there. I'm not bitter at all, but just hoping that BB will see the errors of their ways and improve; right now, it seems to be hope against hope.

He should get a playbook and a swift kick so the door doesn't red his bottom on the way out

a 16 gb playook that is

Originally Posted by Cynycl

He should get a playbook and a swift kick so the door doesn't red his bottom on the way out

a 16 gb playook that is

BRICK IT FIRST!!!!!!!

c

p.s. I always heard it as "Don't let the door hit ya, where the good Lord split ya...." U.S. version

I like the canook variants as well....

Originally Posted by Carl Estes

BRICK IT FIRST!!!!!!!

c

oh yeah........and a kick in the jewels

Well, this is one of the toughest decisions I had to make. i think we should actively discuss and consider.

Originally Posted by offyoutoddle

Well, this is one of the toughest decisions I had to make. i think we should actively discuss and consider.

If only the playbook had a 'home' button, he could press it and let it tell him where to go and how to get there. Do not pass Go; do not collect $200....

Originally Posted by cmdr_dan

If only the playbook had a 'home' button, he could press it and let it tell him where to go and how to get there. Do not pass Go; do not collect $200....

lol. I suppose a less flippant and more honest response though would be just tell him to clear his desk, and don't let the door hit his backside on the way out. But I can't resist the urge to be a comedian. Failure should never be rewarded, for fear of the lessons taught to others. I fear Corporation World is like Planet Banker though - unconnected to the real world .

Originally Posted by offyoutoddle

lol. I suppose a less flippant and more honest response though would be just tell him to clear his desk, and don't let the door hit his backside on the way out. But I can't resist the urge to be a comedian. Failure should never be rewarded, for fear of the lessons taught to others. I fear Corporation World is like Planet Banker though - unconnected to the real world .

I agree with you that failures shouldn't be rewarded. Lock out his computer accounts, have security come in and watch for the 15 minutes allotted to clear his desk, then escort him out. Why should he be any different than the rest of the business world?

Originally Posted by SCrid2000

I go all over crackberry lol. But it was a business decision that was made by people who are much better informed about the company that you or I. PlayBook still works well on 2.1, if you can't be satisfied with a 3 year old tablet as it is you should just get a new tablet.

It was a "business decision" that involved repeatedly lying in public to Playbook customers and potential Playbook customers.

As far as your assertion that the tablet is "three years old," the tablet was first offered for sale, in any form, around April 2011. That's less than two and one-half years ago. Great math on your part.

Furthermore, the 4G LTE version of the Playbook was released in August 2012 and the 3G version of the Playbook was released in November 2012.

Again, great math on your part.

Originally Posted by qwerty4ever

SCrid2000 since you are a recent law school graduate why not apply to BlackBerry's "crack" legal team? I'm sure they're going to requires lots of lawyers/attorneys SOON.

As an attorney who has been practicing law for 19 years, I wouldn't hire this SCrid guy to carry one of my briefcases--even on a pro bono basis.

One key trait that any competent attorney/law clerk/paralegal/law student needs to have is the ability to get his/her facts "right." This Scrid character jumps into this thread and immediately tries to foist upon the readers that the Playbook is a "three year old tablet."

Actually, the first version of the Playbook was released in April, 2011, less than two and one-half years ago. Even rounding up doesn't get one to three years.

The 4G LTE version of the Playbook was first released in August 2012, less than a year and a month ago.

The 3G version of the Playbook was released less than a year ago.

Making a mess of facts like Scrid has will get an attorney laughed out of court, at best, and, in worse case scenarios, subject that attorney to paying malpractice awards.

Every cent he negotiated in his contract!

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Originally Posted by offyoutoddle

Well, this is one of the toughest decisions I had to make. i think we should actively discuss and consider.

Which part? The door in the arse or the kick in the jewels?