- CONCLUSION: THERE ARE NOT REALLY TWO COPIES OF THE FILES!!!
Actually, GhostCommand accesses those files in yet a 3rd way from what I could tell - they are LISTED (NOT REALLY) under and SDCARD folder and if you want to copy stuff, that's where it seems to need to go.02-24-12 03:29 PMLike 0 -
But QNX (like Unix systems) apparently permits another kind of link, often called a "hard link." If \path1\X and \path2\X are "hard links" for the same file, then they are just two different names for the same file. If you delete either one, the other one is still valid and the file still exists, so you don't recover much space. You have to delete both names before the system will delete the actual file and recover its space.
If symbolic links are being used, which are the original files and which are the symbolic links?02-24-12 04:46 PMLike 0 - While I don't doubt what you're saying, you can use symlinks on Windows I use them personally to sync some folders to dropbox from other locations on my computer.
I also just decided to test your theory about Windows not accounting for symlinks - it does. I just symlinked my video folder (over 20GB worth) to another location on my hard drive. The used space on my hard drive reported in Windows explorer did not change at all. EDIT: That's on Windows 7 BTW.
Seeing as the "about device" thing seems to report the correct value as well, I am wondering where people are seeing the wrong value? In Windows? Maybe it can't deal with symlinks it didn't create itself?
Windows can account for its own symbolic links, but SMB (Windows file sharing) has no symbolic link support I am aware of. Even if it does, Samba hides symbolic links rather than exposing them as such (because many older Windows systems don't support them at all). So, when your Windows system access the PB it just sees two files with no indication they're symlinked. Even over USB the PlayBook appears as a network adaptor and you still use Samba/SMB.
The individual files aren't being symlinked, the entire folders are. So shared/misc/android/Pictures is a symlink to shared/photos. You can't delete the symlinks and you can't delete the top level folders in shared, so users will never see a broken link.Talon88 and VerryBestr like this.02-24-12 05:19 PMLike 2 - This might not be the place for this question but .... knowledgeable folks here...
The other day I used Ghost Commander to copy an entire folder of pictures to my pb's photos folder from my WinComputer. They appeared to copy. Ghost Commander showed both the folder and the photos. BUT the pb's Photo app showed no signs of the new "album." And while AirBrowser, Files&Folders and File Browser all showed the folder they showed no contents in that folder. And WinExplorer using usb and/or wifi-sharing showed no evidence of the folder.
I found later (hinted above) that if I use GhostCommander to copy to a more obscure folder sdcard/xxxx/pictures or something similarly odd (dcim), then the pictures were on my pb and showed in the native app. So, there is yet another symbolic link or some such??? (sorry, but I deleted Ghost Commander to explore battery issues)02-24-12 06:30 PMLike 0 - Prior to the official 2.0, the 2.0 beta showed duplicate files in native video app. Not any more.
Some of my sideloaded apps can't "see" files that native apps see, like some books, (I upgraded without full-wipe). Could anyone tell me if the following statement is true?
OS 2.0 do have native books folder or maybe other folders that has real files and may not be seen by android apps directly, but anything in misc/android folder can be see by native QNX apps. This may make sense because Android run-time is a sub-system, hence should have less previlige.02-25-12 08:06 AMLike 0 - OS 2.0 do have native books folder or maybe other folders that has real files and may not be seen by android apps directly, but anything in misc/android folder can be see by native QNX apps. This may make sense because Android run-time is a sub-system, hence should have less previlige.02-26-12 01:52 PMLike 0
- I noticed in GhostCommander that when I drilled down in the pb's folders (it might have been under the sdcard - downloading mapdroid maps so don't want to switch to Ghost), all of the pb's normal folders were present EXCEPT there was NO Documents folder. I had to copy something to the Downloads folder and the move it using a qnx filemanager app.02-26-12 02:21 PMLike 0
- Excuse my ignorence here, but would like to know one thing....
while it has been established that these 'so called duplicate files' are not using any recognizable space on pb, will it be justified if I start interpreting the space available shown in double? As in... If I check the properties of my Z drive, and it shows me that Total Disk Capacity as 13.96 gb (that's the best I could get on my 16 gb Playbook) and it shows the free space as 4 gb, will it be right for me to infer that it is actually 8 gb space available for me?
04-05-12 05:32 AMLike 0 - You might be better served by looking at the PB's Options (gear), About, both General and Hardware for space and/or capacity.04-05-12 09:31 AMLike 0
- Just to clarify some of the confusion around this, it is the folders which have symbolic links, not the individual files.
This has the side effect of making it appear as though there are two places a given "duplicated" file exists but that's not the case. It's actually only in one folder, but there are two different names (basically aliases) for that folder.
Here's the view from the command line:
Code:$ ls -l /accounts/1000/shared/misc/android/ drwxrws--- 2 android_root 1000_shared 4096 Feb 21 06:36 Alarms drwxrws--- 3 101481000 1000_shared 4096 Feb 21 07:20 Android drwxrwsrwx 2 android_root 1000_shared 4096 Feb 21 06:36 DCIM lrwxrwxrwx 1 root nto 31 Apr 05 12:54 Download -> /accounts/1000/shared/downloads lrwxrwxrwx 1 root nto 28 Apr 05 12:54 Movies -> /accounts/1000/shared/videos lrwxrwxrwx 1 root nto 27 Apr 05 12:54 Music -> /accounts/1000/shared/music drwxrws--- 2 android_root 1000_shared 4096 Feb 21 06:36 Notifications lrwxrwxrwx 1 root nto 28 Apr 05 12:54 Pictures -> /accounts/1000/shared/photos lrwxrwxrwx 1 root nto 27 Apr 05 12:54 Podcasts -> /accounts/1000/shared/voice drwxrws--- 2 android_root 1000_shared 4096 Feb 21 06:36 Ringtones
BuzzStarField likes this.04-05-12 12:00 PMLike 1 - As in... If I check the properties of my Z drive, and it shows me that Total Disk Capacity as 13.96 gb (that's the best I could get on my 16 gb Playbook) and it shows the free space as 4 gb, will it be right for me to infer that it is actually 8 gb space available for me?04-05-12 12:04 PMLike 0
- Just to clarify some of the confusion around this, it is the folders which have symbolic links, not the individual files.
This has the side effect of making it appear as though there are two places a given "duplicated" file exists but that's not the case. It's actually only in one folder, but there are two different names (basically aliases) for that folder.
Here's the view from the command line:
Code:$ ls -l /accounts/1000/shared/misc/android/ drwxrws--- 2 android_root 1000_shared 4096 Feb 21 06:36 Alarms drwxrws--- 3 101481000 1000_shared 4096 Feb 21 07:20 Android drwxrwsrwx 2 android_root 1000_shared 4096 Feb 21 06:36 DCIM lrwxrwxrwx 1 root nto 31 Apr 05 12:54 Download -> /accounts/1000/shared/downloads lrwxrwxrwx 1 root nto 28 Apr 05 12:54 Movies -> /accounts/1000/shared/videos lrwxrwxrwx 1 root nto 27 Apr 05 12:54 Music -> /accounts/1000/shared/music drwxrws--- 2 android_root 1000_shared 4096 Feb 21 06:36 Notifications lrwxrwxrwx 1 root nto 28 Apr 05 12:54 Pictures -> /accounts/1000/shared/photos lrwxrwxrwx 1 root nto 27 Apr 05 12:54 Podcasts -> /accounts/1000/shared/voice drwxrws--- 2 android_root 1000_shared 4096 Feb 21 06:36 Ringtones
Do you know why the Documents folder (and its files) is not "duplicated" in this scheme?04-05-12 02:46 PMLike 0 - I don't know Android either. The issue has been that some Android apps canNOT find "our" files in the Documents folder. I believe qpdf initially had that problem.04-05-12 09:04 PMLike 0
- I noticed this issue too but after "investigating" the problem, im sure theyre not duplicates because my Playbook's capacity is 28.4GB, have 15GB worth of media and apps on it and have 12.5GB free. If the files were duplicated, 30GB would've been used and thats more than the Playbook capacity which wouldnt make any sense.08-05-12 04:52 PMLike 0
- The most complete duplicate finder and deleter I have found is "Duplicate Files Deleter".
You can download it from here: Duplicate Files Deleter - tool for finding and deleting duplicate files, delete duplicate files | duplicate files | find duplicate files
I have found that, not only is it one of the fastest duplicate finders/deleters,
but also is by far the most accurate one because of the way it's search engine uses MD5 info.03-23-13 09:34 AMLike 0 - The most complete duplicate finder and deleter I have found is "Duplicate Files Deleter".
You can download it from here: Duplicate Files Deleter - tool for finding and deleting duplicate files, delete duplicate files | duplicate files | find duplicate files
I have found that, not only is it one of the fastest duplicate finders/deleters,
but also is by far the most accurate one because of the way it's search engine uses MD5 info.03-23-13 10:42 AMLike 0 - The most complete duplicate finder and deleter I have found is "Duplicate Files Deleter".
You can download it from here: Duplicate Files Deleter - tool for finding and deleting duplicate files, delete duplicate files | duplicate files | find duplicate files
I have found that, not only is it one of the fastest duplicate finders/deleters,
but also is by far the most accurate one because of the way it's search engine uses MD5 info.03-23-13 07:16 PMLike 0
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