[Dragon546]

Hi all noob here. I bought a 2nd hand 8120 unlocked but it was on the Orange network. Is there a way of getting rid of the Orange UK splash screen as well as the browser. I am on Vodafone and I cannot get the Vodafone live page up when I connect. My friend did wipe the device using MML but when I put the apploader on there it reverted back to Orange again. I can only use the 4.5 apploader software and cannot even upgrade to a newer firmware.

Any help and advice appreciated.

[Reed McLay]

The only thing that prevents you from using alternate carrier software is the presence of a security file installed with the software. In order to use it, you delete the file vendor.xml and continue the install.

The only difference will be the vendor theme, you will get the Orange UK theme because it matches your internal branding. It is a simple matter to exchange that for the Vodafone vendor theme.

Everything else is pushed by service books. As soon as your updated, all the Vodafone stuff will be delivered.

[s.white01]

Hi

I feel exactly the same way as the OP about Orange, but don't understand your response - could you please put it in '*****' language so I can follow your advice?

Thanks

[s.white01]

oh dear - promise it wasn't a rude word before!

[Dragon546]

Hi Reed I am kind of understanding what you mean. I downloaded 4.3 software from RIM directly the F100 version I deleted the vendor.xml before running the apploader. It put the phone to 4.3 but it still had orange branding on it. Ideally I would like a carrier free version of the device with the Blackberry logo as the splash screen. Instead of Orange who love crippling their devices.

However my DM somehow has a permenant version of 4.5 on it and it will not let me upgrade or downgrade properly.

[Hazysky]

As Reed says to upgrade to firmware from a different network you need to remove the vendor.xml file from the download.

Read and follow the instructions in this link carefully.

http://forums.crackberry.com/f3/prop...ocedure-53359/

The latest OS for the 8120 can be found stickied at the top of the 8120 forum

[Dragon546]

Unfortunately I cannot run MML on my PC (vista) to completely erase the device and load custom vsm. Since it's 2nd hand there is no warranty on it.

[Dragon546]

Hi Hazy I just clicked on the link i got page not found. I did delete the vendor.xml after installing it on the PC without the BB plugged or DM running. However when I ran DM to do the update it said no software needed. I went into common files then the rim folder then the apploader subfolder and deleted the vendor.xml as expressed in the first post about the new firmware.

[Hazysky]

Unfortunately I cannot run MML on my PC (vista) to completely erase the device and load custom vsm. Since it's 2nd hand there is no warranty on it.

Use JL_cmdr or Crackmem to wipe the device and run them on Vista as an administrator.

The splash screen cannot be removed.

Do you have any other OS's installed on your PC? remove them via the add remove programs function.

[Hazysky]

Hi Hazy I just clicked on the link i got page not found. I did delete the vendor.xml after installing it on the PC without the BB plugged or DM running. However when I ran DM to do the update it said no software needed. I went into common files then the rim folder then the apploader subfolder and deleted the vendor.xml as expressed in the first post about the new firmware.

Ok. Try this.

Go to the same place where you found the vendor.xml file and look for a file called loader.exe... double click on that and it should install.

[Dragon546]

Ok I try that thanks Hazy I report back after thank you for everyone input and help

[Dragon546]

Ok. Try this.

Go to the same place where you found the vendor.xml file and look for a file called loader.exe... click on that and it should install.

but they can be overwritten by MML right I have seen threads about it elsewhere. The next step would be install a VM and install XP and see if MML works that way.

[Hazysky]

To be honest I am not sure what MML is.......

Probably something obvious!

[Dragon546]

MFI Multiloader its a tool that RIM engineers use.

[Hazysky]

MFI Multiloader its a tool that RIM engineers use.

Ah!

Thanks for explaining that, there ARE some things I do not know LOL!

[Dragon546]

On JL_cmder do I choose factory reset or wipe?

[Hazysky]

If you want to wipe EVERYTHING and go to a 507 error state then a wipe is what you want to do.

[Hazysky]

BTW dont forget to back up and do a back up of your 3rd party apps to otherwise you will have to reinstall one by one.

[Dragon546]

only had a device a day so no worries about re-installing

[Dragon546]

tried both JL_CMDER and CRACKMEM still not working could not connect to the device

[Dragon546]

I keep getting error during open 80040154

[Hazysky]

Hi

Were you able to get it sorted? I've not seen that error message before.

It can take JL _Cmdr a few attempts before it works.

Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com

[Dragon546]

I did 20 attempts still no luck. I ran it on my work pc (XP Pro) it work first time. I guess Vista SP2 is not compatible