1. thaupc's Avatar
    Hi, i'm planning on getting an 8220 from my friend.
    He's in Tmo and got it by insurance and use it as a backup phone.
    He would unlock it for me if i buy it.
    I have couple of questions about this phone:

    1. Now i'm on ATT and my number is without any data plan.
    So if i pop my ATT sim into that unlock phone, would it work and would ATT detect this phone as a smartphone and add a data plan for my account?
    I dont want to deal with this data plan.

    2. Can i use this phone on prepaid Tmo number? Do i have to activate anything before using the phone?

    3. Basically, the reason i dont want a data plan is because i have wifi at all time at my places. So without the data plan, can i still use wifi as a connection to browse the web or facebook?
    If yes, are the any limitation with it?

    4. Will all the app completely run without data plan?

    5. There are some complaints about lagging issue as well as slow and battery draining.
    So will the firmware update help to improve this?

    Thank you for reading
    08-24-11 06:16 PM
  2. SwitchBeach's Avatar
    1. AT&T will automatically add the data plan when you activate the BlackBerry on their network.

    2. Probably as long as it is unlocked. You won't get data that way, though.

    3. No. WiFi requires the proper Service Books. You need a BlackBerry Data Plan to get the Service Books.

    4. No. Most will not. Some will. But most apps that require data will not work.

    5. No idea.
    08-24-11 07:05 PM
  3. thaupc's Avatar
    1. AT&T will automatically add the data plan when you activate the BlackBerry on their network.

    2. Probably as long as it is unlocked. You won't get data that way, though.

    3. No. WiFi requires the proper Service Books. You need a BlackBerry Data Plan to get the Service Books.

    4. No. Most will not. Some will. But most apps that require data will not work.

    5. No idea.
    1. I heard that if the phone not in the list of ATT it would be marked as Unknown device. Therefore, ATT wouldn't know about it and dont do anything. So is 8220 is the case?

    2+3. So basically i can use with Tmo prepaid plan right?
    I look up somewhere said that you can change the Hotspot or something like that in the browser to use the wifi as the connection to internet.
    Is that true?

    4. If i do the thing as i said above, and it works. Will the apps which use the internet can access internet the same way?

    5. Anyone?

    Thank in advance.
    08-25-11 12:26 AM
  4. RedGreenBlue's Avatar
    In reply to Question 5:

    Some have found battery-charge conservation improvement by switching to various versions of the OS for the 8220 (not necessarily by installing a more recent version; some have done better by going to an earlier version)and some have found the opposite. I have had two 8220s with the original and then the last version of the OS offered through T-Mobile and a third with the latest version available anywhere. I haven't seen any difference. If you browse through posts concerning the 8220, battery drain and the various OSs, you will see which versions helped which people. It seems random to me, however.

    Personally, though, I cannot recommend the phone (I wouldn't have had three if it weren't for warranty replacements/reimbursements) because while in principle its design is very nice and versatile, its hardware is unreliable, with battery-drain and Bluetooth problems seemingly much more prevalent than should be the case. If the phone were reliable, I wouldn't have had three, I would have had one.
    08-25-11 10:50 AM
  5. audioAl's Avatar
    Wow, it's sad to hear my 8220 is unreliable.
    09-21-11 05:30 AM
  6. darthCho's Avatar
    5. i have super big lagging issue. but i think this phone is slow in general. i've tried to web browser and its just slow. eventually mine gets super slow until i turn off wi-fi, and trying to turn off wi-fi is not hard but super slow-mo. response of the track ball gets sluggish the more i stay on the browser. i never got google map or blackberry map to run. anything web/wi-fi relate i wouldn't even touch. other than web, its only okay. my o and p button is dieing on me, i have to push it hard while texting. however texting is better than your average 1st gen phones since there are two letters per key instead of 3. and i only have the 8220 because it was free. if i knew the browser was this slow i would just save up and get the latest gen BB. after all i think this is the first gen of BB with browser.

    i think battery life is poor but it charges up quickly.

    the thing i like about it is the outside glass display, no micro scratches after using it for almost two years. appears as shinny and new. wow on that.

    im trying to get the 9810 right now actually. it just cost too much for me. i think all those smart phone shouldn't cost more than $400. thats crazy stupid. don't think ill have money for something like that in half of my lifetime.
    09-22-11 01:40 AM
  7. darthCho's Avatar
    update: firmware updates won't do anything. i think ill get the htc sensation instead of the 9810, or maybe the galaxy s2. sensation is about the same price range with the 9810 with better features, and the DUAL core processor. how many years is blackberry behind?
    09-28-11 10:59 PM
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