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  1. cycle_wala's Avatar
    Presumably the word HELLO is on the left as it is statistically more used than HELP, which is more frequently used than HELD etc

    Posted via CB10
    Yeah. I understand that. What I mentioned was it is different from how Z series shows predictions and that I will find it difficult to adjust to.

    Posted via CB10 on my Z10STL100-1/10.3.0.700
    06-26-14 10:48 PM
  2. cycle_wala's Avatar
    There's no shift key so how do u use symbols when memorised and how do u stick a comma or a full stop without a virtual. Hmm

    Mr A Hanif BlackBerry10
    A downward swipe on the keyboard would bring up the 'symbols' keyboard on the screen just like on Z series phones now.

    And double tap on space bar to enter a full stop.

    Posted via CB10 on my Z10STL100-1/10.3.0.700
    06-26-14 10:49 PM
  3. --TommesJay--'s Avatar
    On a BB keyboard, you don't press shift to get a capital letter, you just long press. If you didn't know that already, you are welcome!
    What tanquil said: it slows you down and feels like a break. That's why I never used that option on my legacy devices.
    06-27-14 02:37 AM
  4. anischab's Avatar
    Just found this in the forums


    Attachment 280781

    Posted via CB10
    Arabic keyboard support!!!

    BlackBerry*Q10, T-Mobile Germany - SQN100-3, Running OS 10.2.1.2941
    06-27-14 04:34 AM
  5. anischab's Avatar
    On a BB keyboard, you don't press shift to get a capital letter, you just long press. If you didn't know that already, you are welcome!
    It is faster typing the Capital with shift... Typing it by holding down is also POSSIBLE, but takes the double of the time... thanks God, there's a shift on the screen (lowest row) always visible when you've a writing field!

    BlackBerry*Q10, T-Mobile Germany - SQN100-3, Running OS 10.2.1.2941
    06-27-14 04:38 AM
  6. II ARROWS's Avatar
    The word predictions look more like the PlayBook.
    Yeah. I understand that. What I mentioned was it is different from how Z series shows predictions and that I will find it difficult to adjust to.
    It's how it works on Q10/Q5.

    What's so different about this one? It's just a different language, not symbols. Same as others.

    The argument is not that there's no place for symbols in keys, it's been this way since the beginning. It's about changing dynamically what symbols you could promptly use depending on the context. It's even better than full touch or full keyboard to me on this point.
    No, wait...
    The argument is not dynamically change symbols... but the loss of physical key to be fast and the waste of screen estate even for basic punctuation.

    Although I'd really love dynamic symbols (on keyboard), it's good to have them printed on them.
    There is space, considering that the keys are bigger then ever, and would really help.

    It is faster typing the Capital with shift... Typing it by holding down is also POSSIBLE, but takes the double of the time... thanks God, there's a shift on the screen (lowest row) always visible when you've a writing field!
    Double?
    I don't know how slow you type, but for me it's at least 4 time more.
    06-27-14 04:46 AM
  7. anischab's Avatar
    :-P

    BlackBerry*Q10, T-Mobile Germany - SQN100-3, Running OS 10.2.1.2941
    06-27-14 06:34 AM
  8. tufcustomer's Avatar
    When I heard it was a touch enabled keyboard, I was hoping that meant press an alt key and the letters on the keys themselves change to the characters they have decided to do on a separate keyboard.

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    Last edited by tufcustomer; 07-16-14 at 11:21 AM.
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    06-27-14 07:43 AM
  9. kevets's Avatar
    The way I read it, you swipe to change modes, and the virtual keys show up with symbols for what is on each key now when you press it. You can press the virtual key, or press the corresponding physical key to get the desired symbol.
    06-27-14 10:33 AM
  10. OTCHRussell's Avatar
    But the word predictions don't look like how we are used to on the touch screen devices (in-letter predictions). Because 'hello' is on the left hand side rather than on the right where the next 'L' is located. The same with 'held'.

    I think I'll switch the predictions type to (in-column) on my Z10 to get used to this device beforehand.

    Posted via CB10 on my Z10STL100-1/10.3.0.700
    Works great that way on the Q10!!
    06-27-14 06:47 PM
  11. unclebanglin's Avatar
    But the word predictions don't look like how we are used to on the touch screen devices (in-letter predictions). Because 'hello' is on the left hand side rather than on the right where the next 'L' is located. The same with 'held'.

    I think I'll switch the predictions type to (in-column) on my Z10 to get used to this device beforehand.

    Posted via CB10 on my Z10STL100-1/10.3.0.700
    I tried in-column and I hate it. I'm hoping for a z50 or for the z30 to come to att

    Posted via CB10
    06-27-14 06:50 PM
  12. zyphen's Avatar
    Is that an UNDO key on the top right of the on-screen keyboard?

    Posted via CB10
    06-27-14 06:59 PM
  13. eu gene's Avatar
    oh yeah men...
    06-27-14 07:05 PM
  14. anischab's Avatar
    Is that an UNDO key on the top right of the on-screen keyboard?

    Posted via CB10
    Yes, but we already have it, I updated Docs to go recently (2-4 months away) and it was already there... I use it from time to time, that's why I know it... here's my Q10's screenshot of it:

    Yes, even MORE images of the keyboard-img_20140628_064053.png

    BlackBerry*Q10, T-Mobile Germany - SQN100-3, Running OS 10.2.1.2941
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    06-28-14 12:43 AM
  15. JamBueree's Avatar
    So that's how the symbols are gonna work. That's gonna take some getting used to. Maybe a lot of getting used to.

    BlackBerry Z10 | 10.3.0.296
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    06-28-14 01:08 AM
  16. Giro_UK's Avatar
    I think the sheer size and performance of this device is what will impress...

    Everyone who has had hands on seems impressed so I'm going to wait for it before making judgement too much...

    It hits Europe first but I wonder will be stocking it....

    Posted via Z10, UK based (Good luck Bla1ze as EiC!)
    06-28-14 04:25 AM
  17. koebi90's Avatar
    https://mobile.twitter.com/halobandi...04670390222848

    Btw here are a lot of pictures (not only keyboard)

    Credit to halobandit!

    Posted on CB 10 and typed on the best Keyboard ever
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    06-28-14 04:58 AM
  18. zyphen's Avatar
    Yes, but we already have it, I updated Docs to go recently (2-4 months away) and it was already there... I use it from time to time, that's why I know it...
    I did not know that, thanks for posting, will check out docs to go!

    Thanks.

    Posted via CB10
    06-28-14 08:31 AM
  19. illlya's Avatar
    06-28-14 11:27 AM
  20. 018125's Avatar
    I think the sheer size and performance of this device is what will impress...

    Everyone who has had hands on seems impressed so I'm going to wait for it before making judgement too much...

    It hits Europe first but I wonder will be stocking it....

    Posted via Z10, UK based (Good luck Bla1ze as EiC!)
    I only know one person who used it hands on in London and he was NOT impressed with the typing. This is not a device for productivity, the symbols on the virtual keyboard prevent autopilot typing.

    Posted via CB10
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    06-28-14 11:47 AM
  21. velkod's Avatar
    I only know one person who used it hands on in London and he was NOT impressed with the typing. This is not a device for productivity, the symbols on the virtual keyboard prevent autopilot typing.

    Posted via CB10
    I can imagine. Typing on the fly and wanna throw in a comma, the typing flow has to stop cuz you have to swipe down? I like it but little things like that may drive ppl nuts
    06-28-14 08:30 PM
  22. BrizzadMan's Avatar
    I can imagine. Typing on the fly and wanna throw in a comma, the typing flow has to stop cuz you have to swipe down? I like it but little things like that may drive ppl nuts
    Fourth row of buttons already has comma... no swiping required.

    Posted via CB10
    06-28-14 10:20 PM
  23. velkod's Avatar
    Fourth row of buttons already has comma... no swiping required.

    Posted via CB10
    On the passport?? 3 rows... no symbols...
    06-29-14 12:03 AM
  24. calivol's Avatar
    Maybe it's to save costs on making different keyboards for each region-specific set of symbols. I imagine the new capacitive touch technology makes it a bit more expensive to produce several lots of different keyboards, while guessing necessary volumes based on predicting where the Passport will sell better.

    Posted via CB10
    My thoughts exactly. There are a lot of reasons why BB designed the keyboard this way, not the least of which is cost. Also, my personal opinion is that BB loyalist will be happy with the Classic...it's designed to accommodate the fan-base. The Passport on the other hand was designed (I think) to turn heads and attract new customers. In a lot of ways they are throwing caution to the wind on this one with specs, styling and capacitive keyboard etc. All bets are off! They throwing the kitchen sink at it and I'm all for it.
    06-29-14 12:44 AM
  25. anischab's Avatar
    On the passport?? 3 rows... no symbols...
    On the screen, the 4th row is always displayed (when texting) as a virtual key row, with Shift, punctuation and Symbol button.


    BlackBerry*Q10, T-Mobile Germany - SQN100-3, Running OS 10.2.1.2941
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    06-29-14 02:46 AM
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