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  1. tomsobon's Avatar
    The only glitch is why Google wants a PKB and at what risk?
    Care to elaborate? I don't see any particular risk from Google's perspective?

    Guys BlackBerry offering Android, at this point, can only be a potential upside!

    Posted via CB10
    07-03-15 05:48 PM
  2. scorepion's Avatar
    First off, don't call me Shirley

    And yes I have used Android quite a bit. I prefer the stock UI's that are offered by Google, Motorola and CyanogenMod. Obviously this comes down to personal taste. But to say that the differences are heaven and hell? I disagree. Would love to hear you explain the huge differences though.....
    Well you made atleast one mistake, clicking on a message in the hub does NOT take you to the app and perse, you stay in the hub... The message opens in the hub...

    Posted via CB10
    07-03-15 06:27 PM
  3. Mohamad Chehadeh's Avatar
    Never.

    Posted via the king of phones. The Passport.
    07-03-15 09:00 PM
  4. vegetto_456's Avatar
    So this picture was just posted on twitter by the infamous leaker Evleaks.

    I myself rock a Passport and absolutely love this hardware. I also happen to enjoy Android. I would buy the $hit out of this thing.

    What say you?

    Attachment 360656

    Posted via CB10
    Despite the denials I have been seeing here on CB, its pretty much a given at this point that BBRY will be releasing an android berry. It is not a question of IF they will but rather WHEN they will announce the android phones.

    Logically speaking, they have to dot the Is and cross the Ts behind the scenes. This release will significantly impact the ecosystem, because if you thought the introduction of the android runtime screwed over native developers, then this is going to be a decisive blow to them. I am sure they are just working out the kinks and details and maybe working out a framework for interoperability of apps and easy porting. I have heard from buddies working in BBRY that the passport android device was definitely being field tested but have not heard anything about the slider, so my money is on them going with an android passport first, to really solidify their enterprise base.

    If you actually think about, this move to release an android device makes perfect sense, especially if you consider the direction that BBRY has been taking recently such as their renewed focus on IOT, MDM and their strong commitment to Enterprise. Despite what many say, many workplaces are either dropping blackberries in lieu of android/iOS devices, or going BYOD, which brings about the same result unfortunately.

    By releasing an android device, secured by blackberry, they can target specific sectors that heavily rely on specialized apps but are in need of security that blackberry is world renowned for. This would give companies an incentive for looking at Blackberry devices again for enterprise imo.

    When I was doing my clinical rotations as a medical student, I relied heavily on a number of apps, which at that time was iOS specific. Nowadays those apps have come to android as well. Using a blackberry in those situations would have been a no go.

    For residency training these days, residents at most programs are automatically given subscriptions to major medical databases and guides such as uptodate and Prescription guidelines, that are crucial on the wards and need to be consulted at a moments notice. Utilizing the runtime to use these android apps on BB10 devices for these scenarios would be a recipe for disaster, because of the eventual app crashes that will happen.

    So in what seems like a genius move, BBRY will have a better shot at deploying with more health networks now. More places will be willing to give the droid berry a chance because a) specialized app availability b) phone is still secured by BBRY, who are still considered the undisputed champs in this regard, whereas before these health networks might have given BBRY the cold shoulder.

    From a professional user's perspective, this strategy looks to be a good compromise between not having a BlackBerry phone at all, and being stuck with an android phone or iPhone. Nothing against those phones, in fact I am a former iPhone user of many years who transitioned to a 9900 on a whim, then switched to BB10 because I became a fan of sorts. I would characterize my experiences in using BB10 phones as a love and hate relationship. I love BB10 phones for their general reliability, good battery life (except on the Z10 lol that would only last me 4-5 hours) and good reception at hospitals, sometimes even in elevators and deep inside buildings. The attachment view makes it a cinch to pull up reports and imaging from past correspondences and so that saves me the hassle of having to go hunting for it.

    Lastly, from a social perspective, the HUB keeps me very organized. I find it quite easy to engage in several conversations at once across not just one or two, but SEVERAL apps, all thanks to the HUB and BB10 multitasking. I would have conversations happening across WeChat + Whatsapp Groups + BBM + Facebook messenger/texting for girlfriend, often at the same time. Most of all, I love that when I am busy working, one glance at my Z30 is all it takes to know whats going on, specifically using peak and flow, as I really don't have time to go through each individual app. If they can replicate this ease of peak/flow and the convenience that the HUB offers, I will use the droid berry as my only phone, no questions asked. Otherwise I will get a classic for my personal use and relegate droid berry for work purposes only.

    Android has a reputation for laggy and slow performance, and part of that is due to the heavy android skins and the accompanying poor software optimization. There are just too many different phones to account for. In BlackBerry's case with the Android Passport, they would have to optimize android for only ONE device, and coupled with a light BB10 skin, it would make for a smooth user experience. Sorry for the rant/essay, but I just wanted to verbalize why I think this play has a chance of paying off big time for BlackBerry IF they play their cards right. Optimize the **** out of whatever android build they are using and make the BB10 skin as minimal as possible, and with a functioning HUB, I would buy the **** out of that phone. Twice even.
    Last edited by vegetto_456; 07-04-15 at 05:30 PM. Reason: Gramming and composition to fix late night derpiness
    dannykavs and btj like this.
    07-03-15 09:45 PM
  5. bodjor's Avatar
    Wouldn't be enough if BlackBerry signed some kind of agreement with Google to be able to use and run Google Play Services in the Android emulator. Then we would have the best of both worlds, the BB10 and all the Android apps. For or me, that's the way to go.
    07-03-15 09:56 PM
  6. Poi25's Avatar
    Despite the denials I have been seeing here on CB, its pretty much a given at this point that BBRY will be releasing an android berry. It is not a question of IF they will but rather WHEN they will announce the android phones.

    Logically speaking, they have to dot the Is and cross the Ts behind the scences. This release will significantly impact the ecosystem, because if you thought the introduction of the android runtime screwed over native developers, then this is going to be the death knell for . I am sure they are just working out the kinks and details and maybe working out a framework for interoperability of apps and easy porting. I have heard from buddies working in BBRY that the passport android device was definitely being field tested but have not heard anything about the slider, so my money is on them going with an android passport first, to really solidify their enterprise base.

    If you actually think about, this move to release an android device makes perfect sense, especially if you consider the direction that BBRY has been taking recently such as their renewed focus on IOT, MDM and their strong commitment to Enterprise. Despite what many say, many workplaces are either dropping blackberries in lieu of android/iOS devices, or going BYOD, which brings about the same result unfortunately.

    By releasing an android device, secured by blackberry, they can target specific sectors that heavily rely on specialized apps but are in need of security that blackberry is world renowned for. This would give companies an incentive for looking at Blackberry devices again for enterprise imo.

    When I was doing my clinical rotations as a medical student, I relied heavily on a number of apps, which at that time was iOS specific. Nowdays those apps have come to android as well. Using a blackberry in those situations would have been a no go.

    For residency training these days, residents at most programs are automatically given subscriptions to major medical databases and guides such as uptodate and Prescription guidelines, that are crucial on the wards and need to be consulted at a moments notice. Utilizing the runtime to use these android apps on BB10 devices for these scenarios would be a recipe for disaster, because of the eventual app crashes that will happen.

    So tn what seems like a genius move, they will have a better shot deploying with more health networks now. More places will be willing to give the droid berry a chance because a) specialized app availability b) phone is secured by BBRY which are the undisputed champs in this regard, whereas before they might have given BBRY the could shoulder.

    From a professional user's perspective, this strategy looks to be a good compromise between not having a BlackBerry phone at all, and being stuck with an android phone or iPhone. Nothing against those phones, in fact I am a former iPhone user of many years who transitioned to a 9900 on a whim, then switched to BB10 because I became a fan of sorts. I would characterize my experiences in using BB10 phones as a love and hate relationship. I love BB10 phones for their general reliability, good battery life (except on the Z10 lol that would only me 4-5 hours) and good reception at hospitals, sometimes even in elevators and deep inside buildings. The attachment view makes it a cinch to pull up reports and imaging from past correspondences and so that saves me the hasssle of having to go hunting for it.

    Lastly, from a social perspective, the HUB keeps me very organized. I find it quite easy to engage in several conversations at once across not just one or two but SEVERAL apps, all thanks to the HUB and BB10 multiasking. I would have conversations happening across WeChat + Whatsapp Groups + BBM + Facebook messenger/texting for girlfriend, often at the same time. Most of all, I love that while working one glance at my Z30 is all that takes to know whats going on by using with the peak and flow, as I really don't have time to go through each individual app. If they can replicate this ease of peak/flow and the convenience of HUB, I will use the droid berry as my only phone, no questions asked. Otherwise I will get a classic for my personal use and relegate droid berry for work purposes only.

    Android has a reputation for laggy and slow performance ,and part of that is due to the heavy android skins and poor software optimization for as there are just too many phones to account for. In BlackBerry's case with the Android Passport, they would have to optimize android for only ONE device, and coupled with a light BB10 skin, it would make for a smooth user experience. Sorry for the rant/essay, but I just wanted to verbalize why I think this play has a chance of paying off big time for BlackBerry IF they play their cards right. Optimize the **** out of whatever android build they are using and make the BB10 skin as minimal as possible, and with a functioning HUB, I would buy the **** out of that phone. Twice even.
    Ladies and gentlemen, a dissertation for your reading pleasure.

    Posted via CB10
    07-03-15 11:02 PM
  7. mikedolo's Avatar
    Good apps but I hate android OS so no
    07-03-15 11:07 PM
  8. rebroker2009's Avatar
    Never owned an android product. My phone has always been BlackBerry since the pager days. I might consider a dual boot BlackBerry/Windows 10 phone but cant comprehend a BlackBerry/Droid phone for the life of me!

    Blackberry Passport running 10.3.2.2339
    07-03-15 11:11 PM
  9. vegetto_456's Avatar
    Ladies and gentlemen, a dissertation for your reading pleasure.

    Posted via CB10
    I wanted to get it off my chest so I got a little carried away lol.

    Posted via CB10
    07-04-15 12:13 AM
  10. bhoqeem's Avatar
    I'd rather have BB/Windows Screw android, it just has games that I want lol

    A BB with microsoft suite would be great for the business user. Blend+Sharepoint+full office... active tiles instead of the cards too + hub for more than a preview?

    security + better productivity... what does Android offer besides more apps?
    MUCH better and makes more sense, yes. Thank you.

    Posted via CB10
    07-04-15 12:31 AM
  11. Poi25's Avatar
    MUCH better and makes more sense, yes. Thank you.

    Posted via CB10
    Not going to happen on any device with an ARM based SoC.
    07-04-15 12:34 AM
  12. bhoqeem's Avatar
    Not going to happen on any device with an ARM based SoC.
    Well, one can only hope. Windows is the much better wife in terms of union, ideally. Not quite possible technically, you say? Haiih...
    07-04-15 12:59 AM
  13. TiFr3d's Avatar
    Sure Not....Android Su**** it's too unreliable and buggy, my almost dead Acer A700 as a proof.
    07-04-15 01:09 AM
  14. phoenix55's Avatar
    NO...

    Posted via CB10
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    07-04-15 01:13 AM
  15. Zmain's Avatar
    What do you mean? It's nearly the same as iOS, are you saying both Android and iOS are clunky and non intuitive? The majority of the market seem to have no problem using either.

    They all pretty much run the same way as far as basics go.

    I still think BlackBerry 10 is far far ahead of all OS's on the market - but they lack one critical component, and it's a deal breaker for basically everyone (the 99% of smartphone users) - ecosystem (apps, etc).

    As far as messaging, staying connected, getting things done, it is the most intuitive OS out there by far. Too bad their app situation and lack of marketing is killing them.

    #qwerty #glassweave #darkhorse
    As mature person I'm not really interested in apps as younger person requirements are different, apps is less of issue for me. Most of android apps expect a few bible apps is all that I use from the Android world of cause Gmaps is must.

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    Last edited by Zmain; 07-04-15 at 02:32 AM.
    07-04-15 02:13 AM
  16. B00001's Avatar
    Yes! If they can incorporate some BB goodness with the Android functionality in a passport (maybe red), I will pony up for that goodness! Maybe the always on 'OK, Google Now' function, the double twist to activate camera action, a functional quick focus android camera.....Oh Yeah!!
    07-04-15 06:46 AM
  17. hawkessales's Avatar
    Nope

    Posted via CB10
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    07-04-15 06:49 AM
  18. IndianTiwari's Avatar
    Yes if this is the only option available , them i will buy the passport with android .
    07-04-15 07:02 AM
  19. vagos2006's Avatar
    No way.

    Posted via CB10
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    07-04-15 07:03 AM
  20. HudsonHawk's Avatar
    NO and NO
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    07-04-15 07:50 AM
  21. MrScotian's Avatar
    What do you mean? It's nearly the same as iOS, are you saying both Android and iOS are clunky and non intuitive? The majority of the market seem to have no problem using either.
    Haha I really don't understand, and yes, I know it's your opinion but I'm going to challenge it
    I knew that comment would elicit a response. Honestly, I do find the android experience to be lackluster as compared to BB10 and frankly if I cared what the market liked, I wouldn't have a BlackBerry right now. Yes, I find iOS lackluster as well, although not quite as bad as Android and I know a few diehard iOS users who also feel that Apple is lagging in that regard. But, as I said, these are my opinions and I do not expect anyone to share them. Were I to move away from BlackBerry 10, it would be to iOS or possibly Win10 when it comes out. Android would be last on my list, unless... the BlackBerry version is skinned so heavily that the Android experience unable to be seen at all.

    Posted via CB10
    07-04-15 08:27 AM
  22. Madhuchandran's Avatar
    Yes, I will , anything that is manufactured by BlackBerry or its chosen partner. My experiences with BlackBerry have be Great.

    Z30STA100-2/10.3.2.2204
    07-04-15 08:52 AM
  23. KorChi_JapThai's Avatar
    Yes, I will , anything that is manufactured by BlackBerry or its chosen partner. My experiences with BlackBerry have be Great.

    Z30STA100-2/10.3.2.2204
    This what I called supporting blackberry all the way. Thumbs Up.

    Posted via CB10
    07-04-15 08:57 AM
  24. andy957's Avatar
    No.
    07-04-15 09:03 AM
  25. dannykavs's Avatar
    Well you made atleast one mistake, clicking on a message in the hub does NOT take you to the app and perse, you stay in the hub... The message opens in the hub...

    Posted via CB10
    I get what you're saying, if I tap on a BBM message for example, I'm just replying to the message but the BBM app won't be open in home page.

    But the experiences are basically both the same on BB10 and Android, you're one swipe away from getting to the hub/notification tray and then one tap brings you to the message to respond, technicalities aside of course.

    Posted via CB10
    07-04-15 09:17 AM
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