1. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    From where you are completely blind!
    For 3:2 you can check Microsoft's AIO reviews which almost every one said the same fact!
    For 16:9 it is really obvious
    About 1:1 maybe not true cause it mostly based on my own observations!

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    So you're saying Windows Mobile is part of your fact basis? Failure based on more failure??
    12-18-17 03:19 PM
  2. royal_black's Avatar
    Passport has a 1:1 ratio screen - NOT compatible with Android.

    So, for the gazillionth and one time... NO. 🎅
    Mmmm... I wonder how it goes that I use every day some android apps :-)

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    12-18-17 03:59 PM
  3. Mojarch's Avatar
    So you're saying Windows Mobile is part of your fact basis?Failure based on more failure ??
    Do you even know what AIO (all in one) is?
    It seems "Failure based on more failure" more suits to you!

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    Last edited by Mojarch; 12-18-17 at 05:38 PM.
    12-18-17 05:13 PM
  4. Mojarch's Avatar
    As a designer, your first statement makes no sense whatsoever.

    For your second, 16x9 is just the HDTV ratio decided upon back in the early 90s. It doesn't even match any existing theatrical aspect ratios exactly.

    Third... I've never seen a 1:1 (square) dedicated e-reader.
    hmmm!
    But lots of other designer say opposite!
    And about second one I know it is just because cinemas want to be different from tv's and they chose to go for wide-screen which finally lead to 16:9 become the main aspect ratio that every one using since than.
    But as I said it gives some feeling about surround view!

    And for 3rd one just check the comment before your original comment!

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    12-18-17 05:33 PM
  5. conite's Avatar
    hmmm!
    But lots of other designer say opposite!
    And about second one I know it is just because cinemas want to be different from tv's and they chose to go for wide-screen which finally lead to 16:9 become the main aspect ratio that every one using since than.
    But as I said it gives some feeling about surround view!

    And for 3rd one just check the comment before your original comment!

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    What is the aspect ratio of a page in a book?
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    12-18-17 05:48 PM
  6. Emaderton3's Avatar
    What is the aspect ratio of a page in a book?
    Hey, my preschooler has some square books lmao.
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    12-18-17 08:16 PM
  7. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    Do you even know what AIO (all in one) is?
    It seems "Failure based on more failure" more suits to you!

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    My comment was that you're bringing up Microsoft in mobile hardware discussion.
    12-18-17 08:38 PM
  8. Carjackd's Avatar
    Hey, my preschooler has some square books lmao.
    Did you ever try and fit them in round holes?
    12-18-17 08:49 PM
  9. falbo's Avatar
    Mmmm... I wonder how it goes that I use every day some android apps :-)

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    No one has answered this yet! I think some of us are interested to know the answer

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    12-19-17 05:38 AM
  10. Emaderton3's Avatar
    No one has answered this yet! I think some of us are interested to know the answer

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    They run but in many cases not properly and are not formatted properly or just shrunk down to fit. The runtime was not originally intended to run Android apps on BlackBerry 10 but rather a tool for developers. I had a Q10, and most apps did not work correctly or were cutoff because they weren't designed for a square screen.
    12-19-17 06:02 AM
  11. falbo's Avatar
    They run but in many cases not properly and are not formatted properly or just shrunk down to fit. The runtime was not originally intended to run Android apps on BlackBerry 10 but rather a tool for developers. I had a Q10, and most apps did not work correctly or were cutoff because they weren't designed for a square screen.
    OK thanks for your help and reply as I try and understand this. So they can shrink things down to fit the passport

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    12-19-17 10:43 AM
  12. Emaderton3's Avatar
    OK thanks for your help and reply as I try and understand this. So they can shrink things down to fit the passport

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    It is not the same for every app because they weren't designed for this type of use. Passport seems to work the best with Android apps though. I found them to be sluggish, unresponsive, and/or simply did not work. They also were huge battery killers for me. Some even killed my battery in a few hours even though they were closed.

    This was a workaround and really not a long term solution.
    12-19-17 10:46 AM
  13. falbo's Avatar
    This is probably why I find my passport getting hot at the top rear part of the phone when using a android app. Thanks for explaining

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    12-19-17 11:16 AM
  14. Emaderton3's Avatar
    This is probably why I find my passport getting hot at the top rear part of the phone when using a android app. Thanks for explaining

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    My Q10 also got hot with certain Android apps. And they can misbehave and keep running which can keep your phone running warm.
    12-19-17 11:23 AM
  15. i_plod_an_dr_void's Avatar
    What is the aspect ratio of a page in a book?
    A book is not exactly the same thing as an electronic reader, because the eyes do the scrolling on the physical page. Grant it a book is more ideal for reading than an electronic device, however its bulk storage and multifunction disadvantages are obvious. But the question is, what is the essential focal or reading area that the eyes and brain are most comfortable with accomadating without excessive scrolling (eye fatigue, line length, sufficient number of lines, sustaining stream of thought without too frequent scolling/paging interruptions etc). A paragraph or two or more may approximate an ideal. One could argue the passport 1:1 offers a closer to ideal compromise for reading, under the obvious contraints of the necessity of it being a small device.
    Because we generally focus on a circular area with our eyesight -closely approximated by a square (hence 1:1), not usually in rectangular areas.

    16:9 is not for reading, its for movie watching - a different function of the eyes and brain. The 1:1 or similiar works far better for this function than the 16:9, unless we start moving into phablet territory......though the never got to z20/20 playbook2 flip-phone (on a vertical axis), (think 2 z30's joined along a spine) screen phone might be even more ideal for the document reading functions.
    12-19-17 02:19 PM
  16. conite's Avatar
    A book is not exactly the same thing as an electronic reader, because the eyes do the scrolling on the physical page. Grant it a book is more ideal for reading than an electronic device, however its bulk storage and multifunction disadvantages are obvious. But the question is, what is the essential focal or reading area that the eyes and brain are most comfortable with accomadating without excessive scrolling (eye fatigue, line length, sufficient number of lines, sustaining stream of thought without too frequent scolling/paging interruptions etc). A paragraph or two or more may approximate an ideal. One could argue the passport 1:1 offers a closer to ideal compromise for reading, under the obvious contraints of the necessity of it being a small device.
    Because we generally focus on a circular area with our eyesight -closely approximated by a square (hence 1:1), not usually in rectangular areas.

    16:9 is not for reading, its for movie watching - a different function of the eyes and brain. The 1:1 or similiar works far better for this function than the 16:9, unless we start moving into phablet territory......though the never got to z20/20 playbook2 flip-phone (on a vertical axis), (think 2 z30's joined along a spine) screen phone might be even more ideal for the document reading functions.
    Essentially every piece of media content in the world has naturally gravitated to a rectangular shape - TV, movies, book/magazine/newspaper pages, architectural drawings, etc, etc. There is a reason for this.
    12-19-17 02:24 PM
  17. anon(2313227)'s Avatar
    Yes there is a Passport with Windows, one with Symbian and iOS as well.. coming soon to a nightmare near you.
    12-19-17 02:37 PM
  18. Mojarch's Avatar
    What is the aspect ratio of a page in a book?
    First sorry for late answer!
    Second it seems to be 16:9
    But human eye filed of view is 155 degree by 122 which is almost identical to 4:3 and from this I can say everything cubish will be better to look and read from!

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    12-24-17 04:16 AM
  19. Mojarch's Avatar
    My comment was that you're bringing up Microsoft in mobile hardware discussion.
    Well still irrelevant cause all my point was about aspect ratio not hardware directly!

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    Last edited by Mojarch; 12-24-17 at 04:30 AM.
    12-24-17 04:17 AM
  20. Mojarch's Avatar
    This is probably why I find my passport getting hot at the top rear part of the phone when using a android app. Thanks for explaining

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    That is actually true and mostly because the phone gives 2of 4 cores to android runtime and those poor cores had to work with max frequency to maintain virtual android (the runtime) smooth and fluid!

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    12-24-17 04:24 AM
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