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  1. hjc73734's Avatar
    In response to a privacy concern, you gave me a company curated and crafted response. Lol. I wonder which member of their crisis response team made that up. Jk I don't know what to tell you.

    I use the mentioned apps a lot.

    Posted via CB10
    I don't need you to tell me anything regarding Swype. I turned off the features I don't want and I'll continue to use it.

    So you didn't get back to me on the speed of those apps. uber is like a slideshow. Amazon loads in like 30+ seconds.... if anyone didn't notice.
    Last edited by hjc73734; 04-03-17 at 08:15 PM.
    04-03-17 07:53 PM
  2. ryder55's Avatar
    Well, now you're just proving some of what I said on your own. Thanks!
    Hahaha. I always remember when every phone manufacturer had to bow down to the throne of the angry birds developers and any OS worth its salt had to have been blessed by angry birds... and blackberry had the moment in the sun when it finally, through unknown means, obtained the.. blessing. Good times.

    Do you have any idea what happened to those birds? Or are they the ghost of snapchat?

    Posted via CB10
    04-03-17 07:58 PM
  3. Bla1ze's Avatar
    Do you have any idea what happened to those birds? Or are they the ghost of snapchat?
    They became big celebs, starred in their own movie. Didn't do as great as they expected, so I think most of them OD'd on bird seed.
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    04-03-17 08:04 PM
  4. unclebanglin's Avatar
    come back to me when your PP acquires the dreaded "no signal" problemo...mine is sadly dead and i've unfortunately had to move on
    04-03-17 08:38 PM
  5. Drael646464's Avatar
    My issue with the passport, is the same as my issue with many modern smartphones - its big.

    I want a phone I can chuck into my pocket with my keys. The specs are fine. BB10 will probably be fine for another 2-3 years ish, so long as you can do workarounds.

    Which is good, because I prefer windows to android, and windows store + windows 10 mobile will be properly cooked in a year or two. When I can have real power on my pocket device instead of just apps.
    04-03-17 08:55 PM
  6. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    I can use a different keyboard. On my non Blackberry Androids I use Swype. Even better than the Blackberry VKB with swipe.

    If you think the Passport has no issues with speed, you must think your 1990 Corolla is "fast" too.
    Swype... the app that allowed me to overcome my dependence on pkbs. I've been using it for almost a decade, with a highly customized keyboard across devices.

    The voice dictation and handwriting are also appreciated.
    04-03-17 10:25 PM
  7. officially_juju's Avatar
    I purchased an "almost new Passport" two weeks ago because I missed the PKB and uniqueness of the device. I must say... I'm in love with this phone and gladly sold my Honor 8.
    Sure, I will be getting the KEYone when it releases but the Passport is just so so so nice and different than any other phone. I'm happy with it.
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    04-03-17 10:43 PM
  8. Drael646464's Avatar
    Swype:

    When writing for any decent length of time, the way to tire out your hands almost as quickly as knocking one out. Makes ape arm seem like a minor concern.

    And also, see: "How to learn to hate word prediction algorythmns in 5 easy steps", and "things almost as frustrating as using speech recognition"

    Certainly better than trying to two thumb it on the base keyboard, but still pretty horrible IMO next to PKB. Reduces most people to one to three sentences pretty quick.
    04-04-17 12:12 AM
  9. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    Swype:

    When writing for any decent length of time, the way to tire out your hands almost as quickly as knocking one out. Makes ape arm seem like a minor concern.

    And also, see: "How to learn to hate word prediction algorythmns in 5 easy steps", and "things almost as frustrating as using speech recognition"

    Certainly better than trying to two thumb it on the base keyboard, but still pretty horrible IMO next to PKB. Reduces most people to one to three sentences pretty quick.
    Interesting experience.

    Swype works for me because I can use it with either hand. Less stress than when I'm on a pkb device, but that's my experience.

    Admittedly, Swype seems to have the "either love it or hate it" effect for most folks. I like that I can have the same experience across devices.

    And if using Swype increases the brevity of electronic communication, the developers deserve the Nobel.
    04-04-17 01:23 AM
  10. hjc73734's Avatar
    Swype:

    When writing for any decent length of time, the way to tire out your hands almost as quickly as knocking one out. Makes ape arm seem like a minor concern.

    And also, see: "How to learn to hate word prediction algorythmns in 5 easy steps", and "things almost as frustrating as using speech recognition"

    Certainly better than trying to two thumb it on the base keyboard, but still pretty horrible IMO next to PKB. Reduces most people to one to three sentences pretty quick.

    I don't type essays with my phone so Swype works for me especially one handed short responses.

    My perfect combo would be a Priv with Swype vkb and auto switching to BlackBerry pkb on slide up.

    Now it still works in a limited way atm but the gestures and flick typing doesn't work
    04-04-17 02:07 AM
  11. Drael646464's Avatar
    BTW, to the original poster, I Believe there is at least some version of facebook lite that includes messenging. Which to me, seems a lot more elegant than installing either face10, or and old version of facebook for messenging no longer works.
    04-04-17 02:46 AM
  12. Drael646464's Avatar
    I don't type essays with my phone so Swype works for me especially one handed short responses.

    My perfect combo would be a Priv with Swype vkb and auto switching to BlackBerry pkb on slide up.

    Now it still works in a limited way atm but the gestures and flick typing doesn't work
    I'm never fussed on smartphone screen size, or phone size being big, so for me there'd be no point in that. But I can see the appeal, given swype is good enough until you want to be verbose.
    04-04-17 02:49 AM
  13. Drael646464's Avatar
    Interesting experience.

    Swype works for me because I can use it with either hand. Less stress than when I'm on a pkb device, but that's my experience.

    Admittedly, Swype seems to have the "either love it or hate it" effect for most folks. I like that I can have the same experience across devices.

    And if using Swype increases the brevity of electronic communication, the developers deserve the Nobel.
    What do you mean by stress? Do you make a lot of errors? (That might just be practice I suppose)

    Ambidexterity is always a good thing to have. My left hand is useless, i'd struggle to draw a smiley face with it.
    04-04-17 02:51 AM
  14. mbirth's Avatar
    Enjoy BB10s file manager for seamless connection with one drive, box and others. Just to get that done on android might require you picking up ES file explorer that has servers connected to China.
    Really, that's the only filemanager you found in the huuuuuge list of filemanagers in the Play Store?

    You should rather try these: Solid Explorer or FX File Explorer.


    Android has not released a proper method to backup your phone and data or just resolved basic issues, so you need more apps. It's so easy to manage bb10 and I'm surprised to hear complaints
    Android has means for apps to backup their data to your Google account. It's just that not many developers are using them. Also, since most data is meant to be "in the cloud" anyways, what purpose is there in backing up everything to some harddrive? (And there's "adb backup". Google it. It's no more complicated than e.g. setting up Cobalt on BB10.)

    Blackberry 10 gets launchers right and gives you exactly what you need with hub. Not so with android. The list goes on ad nauseam
    Android provides the platform and doesn't try to be a do-it-all. So they have more capacity do maintain the operating system than wasting time with implementing some tools where there are great alternatives in the Play Store anyways. Also there are developers with way more enthusiasm and better ideas for such apps than Android could ever come up with.
    04-04-17 06:23 AM
  15. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    Android provides the platform and doesn't try to be a do-it-all. So they have more capacity do maintain the operating system than wasting time with implementing some tools where there are great alternatives in the Play Store anyways. Also there are developers with way more enthusiasm and better ideas for such apps than Android could ever come up with.
    And that is why it and iOS are successful. They stumbled (IMHO) upon the winning formula: provide the base, and let specialists (aka app developers) provide pieces that allow users to customize their individual experiences.

    You named several fine manager options, and didn't mention the one I've used for years. That's the advantage of a well stocked ecosystem... choice.

    Then, even when the stock option might be the best, third-party competition helps push the envelope. Take Google Maps for instance; competition from TeleNav, Waze, Copilot pushes addition of newer features.

    Again, the consumer wins.

    The only place you really hear about the indisputable greatness of stock or the pain of spending "hours" looking for apps is here on CB.
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    04-04-17 06:54 AM
  16. thurask's Avatar
    Really, that's the only filemanager you found in the huuuuuge list of filemanagers in the Play Store?

    You should rather try these: Solid Explorer or FX File Explorer.
    I'm guessing that the experience of having more than one app available for a thing blew his mind before he could finish the post.
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    04-04-17 12:09 PM
  17. KemKev's Avatar
    Passport + iPad Pro = the "best" of both worlds. What one can't or doesn't do well, the other does quite fine.
    04-04-17 03:42 PM
  18. conite's Avatar
    Passport + iPad Pro = the "best" of both worlds. What one can't or doesn't do well, the other does quite fine.
    And if you needed one device to do it all?
    04-04-17 04:16 PM
  19. LuxuryTouringZone's Avatar
    I like BlackBerry Passports.
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    04-04-17 07:29 PM
  20. Drael646464's Avatar
    And if you needed one device to do it all?
    Maybe a hybrid windows tablet, running chrome extensions, and android emulation. Or a dual boot windows/android tablet could be considered "a device that does it all".

    But I don't think that could be said of any current phone. There are things that every type of phone can't do.

    Is there a windows emu for android? Maybe that would count too.

    But then there's gaming as well :P Dedicated gaming devices do that better than phones, or tablets.

    Might be a few years before we really see a phone that can do everything.
    04-05-17 12:43 AM
  21. Drael646464's Avatar
    Really, that's the only filemanager you found in the huuuuuge list of filemanagers in the Play Store?

    You should rather try these: Solid Explorer or FX File Explorer.

    The majority of people don't install launchers. Or customize their OS experience whatsoever. A background is the normal limit. They just use whatever they get.

    Finding stuff in the various app stores would be a nightmare, on any platform, without various lists and guides. It's like sitting in front of a google search, without a clue what to type in sometimes. 2.8 million apps in google, 2.2 million in apple, 700,000 or so in windows - and a lot of it is junky in all the stores. Low rent, advertising filled, spammy, software clones etc.

    I often find that to be a big issue with today. There's very little smart filtering of content. App suggestions and so on, have a long way to go. As do means of filtering internet content. We have too many choices. It's easy to get lost, and not find what you want.
    04-05-17 12:49 AM
  22. mbirth's Avatar
    The majority of people don't install launchers. Or customize their OS experience whatsoever. A background is the normal limit. They just use whatever they get.
    What makes you think that? Even my parents who don't know much about this stuff and only have smartphones for like 2 years now managed to install apps from the Play Store. And they didn't even need to ask me.


    Finding stuff in the various app stores would be a nightmare, on any platform, without various lists and guides. It's like sitting in front of a google search, without a clue what to type in sometimes. 2.8 million apps in google, 2.2 million in apple, 700,000 or so in windows - and a lot of it is junky in all the stores. Low rent, advertising filled, spammy, software clones etc.
    You must have a reeeeeaaaaally hard time going grocery shopping, then... Same situation. Lots of goods, only few deliver what they're promising. How do you do manage THAT? It's a wonder you didn't starve to death.
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    04-05-17 07:19 AM
  23. Drael646464's Avatar
    Its easy enough to find things on a super market shelf. It can be a little harder to find things with a search box, when you are dealing with 2.8 million apps, or 100,000s of millions of web pages. That's a terrible comparison. It would make sense if you supermarket stocked several million different products, and you could only find them most of the time, by coming up with the right word phrases.

    This is a known problem in the software community, one people like google, apple and Microsoft are working to address.

    As for the first thing, how do I know - Its fairly common knowledge that most people don't install launchers. Its kind of obvious in a way too. But you could easily extrapolate. Android is 88% of the smartphone market users, 1 in 4 or so in the global population have a phone and the planet is 7 billion people. So roughly that should be about 1.5 billion android users. Have I got that right?

    Anyway, downloads for the most popular launchers (and that includes duplicate downloads, not individual users) don't come close to the total number of android phones.

    The majority of people think about, and use their phones in a completely different way from technology enthusiasts.
    04-05-17 08:16 AM
  24. ryder55's Avatar
    What makes you think that? Even my parents who don't know much about this stuff and only have smartphones for like 2 years now managed to install apps from the Play Store. And they didn't even need to ask me.




    You must have a reeeeeaaaaally hard time going grocery shopping, then... Same situation. Lots of goods, only few deliver what they're promising. How do you do manage THAT? It's a wonder you didn't starve to death.
    I'm aware of both file managers you pointed out but I've not done extensive testing on them to ensure my data is safe from any leakages. However, the blackberry passport file manager works seamlessly out of the box especially with cloud storage, while the other launchers you pointed out have to be paid for without bringing anything new to the table.

    With the rate at which our passwords and data's are leaked online, it is very important to know exactly who or what entity possesses your information, and I trust blackberry with my cloud information than another party.

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    04-05-17 08:19 AM
  25. mbirth's Avatar
    Its easy enough to find things on a super market shelf. It can be a little harder to find things with a search box
    Your Play Store must be broken, then. Because mine looks like this:

    Why I think the Passport is still worthwhile in 2017-screenshot_20170405-153536.jpg

    And this is even better than any storefront because I can browse everything by various means: category, best selling, best rated, trending....

    And I have a search box, so when I want a "file manager", I just type that and get to a "shelf" full of file managers. Then I can compare the ratings, read the reviews and finally decide on one. Or try several.


    ... blah blah about how "nobody" installs custom software to their phones ...
    Why are you even bringing up launchers all the time? BlackBerry provides a perfectly capable launcher with their Android phones. So there's no need to install a custom one. But at least you have a choice!

    Also, those people you're bringing up all the time - those who use a phone as-is and don't want to customise anything besides the wallpaper - they most probably won't even need a file manager. They can work with the open/save features of apps.

    Did you know that VW had a vase with a little plastic flower in their Beetles? What you're asking for here is that every other car manufacturer should add those vases and a holder to their car. Because you're incapable of getting (or deciding on) a vase and flower on your own.

    I say: Leave the vase-making and flower-selecting to people who know what they're doing. Not a car manufacturer.
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    04-05-17 08:55 AM
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