Why I think the Passport is still worthwhile in 2017
- Tre LawrenceBetween Realities
Let me figure out how to make my device mine. Give me a utility I can use across BB10, iOS, Android and WinPhone.04-05-17 09:11 AMLike 0 -
Android mainly works with Google as a cloud provider. And they would lose their user base, and thus their value, very fast if they'd give away their user's data like BB did. And opposite to BB, Google even releases a report about these type of governmental actions. And there's no incident where Google just "lost" user's data to someone else through a breach of security. The only incidents I know of are via phishing or easy to guess passwords. So I'd say they've earned my trust over the years.04-05-17 09:12 AMLike 0 - And so how well do those categories and recommended options work - how often do you use those versus the search bar, to try and find an app?
How well do those pages represent the 2.8 million apps?
Again, these are problems technology companies are working on, even if you refuse to admit they exist.04-05-17 05:03 PMLike 0 - And so how well do those categories and recommended options work - how often do you use those versus the search bar, to try and find an app?
How well do those pages represent the 2.8 million apps?
Again, these are problems technology companies are working on, even if you refuse to admit they exist.
It would take all of 10 minutes for a complete newbie to find a great file manager, video player, picture viewer, and music player.04-05-17 05:14 PMLike 0 -
In contrast. it would take said newbie 0 (zero) minutes to find that stuff on his bb10 Passport because it comes out of the box with it loaded on.
And to answer OP guy, yes I think my Passport is worthwhile in 2017 and continues to be the most unique and coolest phone on the market. (Priv and KeyOne get honorable mention).
Via z10.
Posted via CB1004-05-17 06:29 PMLike 0 - That is after the complete newbie creates a Google account, gets accustomed to and comfortable with the store while learning a new phone. I'm guessing more than 10 minutes.
In contrast. it would take said newbie 0 (zero) minutes to find that stuff on his bb10 Passport because it comes out of the box with it loaded on.
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Still far better to choose between a number of well developed, feature rich apps than being stuck with 4 year old default, basic apps.Thud Hardsmack likes this.04-05-17 06:34 PMLike 1 -
Again, you dismiss something that is a known, and widely accepted problem with volume searches, and the internet volume in general - filtering.
Its also a problem when it comes to mouthy trolls. It'd be nice sometimes just to have them automatically tuned out.
What we need is, better control ourselves over content filtering, and better AI to match it. Otherwise there is always lost potential, and time wasted scrolling through pages and pages of info.
Human beings are evolved as hunter gatherers. They remember approximately 100 people, known as dumbars number. They are tempero-spatial creatures - they remember things if they are represented in space, not 2d. They also face decision paralysis when faced with more than approximately ten similar choices. This is why mobile phone and high grade technology stores don't bombard you with options.
2.8 million choices, give in a search query, or mostly guessing suggestion format, like using google to find some specific thing that's hard to query properly - its not humanistic.
The future is humanistic technologies, technologies that adapt to the way we work, not the techie mentality that humans, even though psychologically and genetically they actually cannot, should adapt to technology.
I mean this is a big reason touch ever took off in the first place, and swiping screens etc. It better approximates physical existence than folders and windows.04-06-17 02:56 AMLike 0 -
- That is after the complete newbie creates a Google account, gets accustomed to and comfortable with the store while learning a new phone. I'm guessing more than 10 minutes.
In contrast. it would take said newbie 0 (zero) minutes to find that stuff on his bb10 Passport because it comes out of the box with it loaded on.04-06-17 03:02 AMLike 0 - Android is a toy that is trying so hard to be something else. We appreciate what android brings to the table, especially when used in tablet form or when installed on a laptop for when you have extra minutes to waste playing candy crush or 8 ball pool.
Blackberry 10, specifically on the passport, is a serious no frills OS, and I understand why snapchat lovers hate it. No need to spend precious minutes looking for or researching out a file manager that works or configuring a launcher. It just works out of the box.
Posted via CB10ratfinkstooley likes this.04-06-17 03:11 AMLike 1 - Android is a toy that is trying so hard to be something else. We appreciate what android brings to the table, especially when used in tablet form or when installed on a laptop for when you have extra minutes to waste playing candy crush or 8 ball pool.
Blackberry 10, specifically on the passport, is a serious no frills OS, and I understand why snapchat lovers hate it. No need to spend precious minutes looking for or researching out a file manager that works or configuring a launcher. It just works out of the box.
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Also, it takes so many BACK presses to back out of nested directories, it's rediculous. Copy and pasting from one directory to another is just a chore.Thud Hardsmack likes this.04-06-17 03:41 AMLike 1 - Android is a toy that is trying so hard to be something else. We appreciate what android brings to the table, especially when used in tablet form or when installed on a laptop for when you have extra minutes to waste playing candy crush or 8 ball pool.
Blackberry 10, specifically on the passport, is a serious no frills OS, and I understand why snapchat lovers hate it. No need to spend precious minutes looking for or researching out a file manager that works or configuring a launcher. It just works out of the box.
Posted via CB1004-06-17 04:21 AMLike 0 - How can you say the passport is outdated. It works just fine. And the form factor is so unique and sexy that people would just love to pick this up. Especially the red version... aww man that is sexier than any girl i have ever seen.
Posted via my nokia 3310 (the old one)04-06-17 10:12 AMLike 0 -
As a side note, I don't see anyone buying a 900 dollar phone using snapchat too often. Snapchat is popular with teenagers.04-09-17 01:16 AMLike 0 - If you have an android device, and have time for games, please don't play candy crush. Play leo's fortune, star wars:knights of the old republic, shadowrun, modern combat, limbo, machinarium or something else decent. Too many people are making poor quality freemium games that play you and your credit card more than you play them.
As a side not, I don't see anyone buying a 900 dollar phone using snapchat too often.04-09-17 01:25 AMLike 0 - Who are you to judge people's preferences? The games exist because they're known to appeal to many, whether they're good or not. Personally I have RealMyst, Opus, After The End, and I've run through all three Room titles, but I also enjoy spending time with "fluff" games such as Kung Fury and Evil Apples.
Still, my advice is, for people generally- pay for games, and play the games. Or play a demo. Rather than have the games play you. Leo's fortune is about as fluff as I tend to get. Or osmos. That's pretty casual for me, I don't need any fruit ninjas, or temple run.
Did you ever play double dragon? That's been re-released on android I believe.04-09-17 04:22 AMLike 0 - Well, then I apologise for insulting your love of in app purchases and advertising. Let the flappy bird lovers of the world unite.
Still, my advice is, for people generally- pay for games, and play the games. Or play a demo. Rather than have the games play you. Leo's fortune is about as fluff as I tend to get. Or osmos. That's pretty casual for me, I don't need any fruit ninjas, or temple run.
Did you ever play double dragon? That's been re-released on android I believe.BigBadWulf likes this.04-09-17 05:44 AMLike 1 - Your snide attitude is wearing thin. In case I wasn't clear previously, I'll reword my statement. People's selections of device, OS, the apps they use which includes games and how they use their devices is a personal choice and we do not tolerate members on this site getting overly judgemental about them. There's a marked difference between having an opinion and offering it for discussion versus making it obvious you think your opinion is superior to any other. Take a moment to learn that difference.
We are on a forum where people are pretty objectively rude all day long. There is argumentation, ego posturing, implied ad homs, sarcasm. And the mods aren't squeaky clean when it comes to conduct either. It's to be honest, a fairly hostile forum for a something as unimportant as mobile phones. It's not a forum I'll be on for long for that reason.
I've learnt a lot, but the personal exchanges leave something to be desired for me.
And you pick up on me bagging on the freemium model, which I don't think anybody could soundly argue isn't without flaws, and people commonly take issue with.
When indeed someone higher up in the thread that was part of conversation was also bagging on candy crush and social apps users without the same treatment.
"making it obvious you think your opinion is superior to any other" is pretty much the MO of the whole forum, as is bagging on apps, OS, and devices. If I tried to list all the places I saw that on this site, I'd exhaust myself.
It's an internet forum, we are talking about _games_. Not religion or terrorism. Chill man. Nobody who plays candy crush is going to start a war and neither am I.
If anyone is genuinely offended, I apologise. But I wouldn't lose any sleep if someone told me trine 2, or torment:tides of numenera was an aweful game. If someone prefers facebook Farmville to modern combat, great more power to them. People have different tastes
But I still think that freemium is a con. I think the model lowers software quality. And I am against it, for ethical reasons. It's skinner box manipulation.Last edited by Drael646464; 04-09-17 at 06:55 AM.
04-09-17 06:27 AMLike 3 - Anyway, you never answered my question- if you'd like to talk about games. Did you ever play double dragon?
I used to love that game when I was a kid. The memories of the old arcade XD
Gauntlet as well.
I actually miss multiplayer games you can play with people in person.Last edited by Drael646464; 04-09-17 at 06:45 AM.
04-09-17 06:34 AMLike 0 - Okay, I'll be frank, to me, that seems fairly overly sensitive.
We are on a forum where people are pretty objectively rude all day long. There is argumentation, ego posturing, implied ad homs, sarcasm. It's to be honest, a fairly hostile forum for a something as unimportant as mobile phones.
And you pick up on me bagging on the freemium model, which I don't think anybody could soundly argue isn't without flaws. When indeed someone higher up in the thread that was part of conversation was also bagging on candy crush and social apps users. That seems fairly selective, and particular to ME.
"making it obvious you think your opinion is superior to any other" is pretty much the MO of the whole forum. If I tried to list all the places I saw that on this site, I'd exhaust myself.
And your taking this all pretty darn serious. It's an internet forum, we are talking about _games_. Not religion or terrorism. Chill man. Nobody who plays candy crush is going to start a war and neither am I.
Posted via CB1004-09-17 06:38 AMLike 0 - Personally I don't play games on my phone either. If I wanted to I would bring my android tablet.
As far as missing apps I really don't see what the difference is between using an app or a saved webpage to your homescreen. They load just as fast and appear to be the same. Bank's websites are secure just like the app. If you say features well that depends on the developer, that's not always the case.
As far as preloaded apps I think a phone should come with as little bloadware as possible but BB10 has managed their suit very well. As far as on Android it's unacceptable that some apps cannot be Uninstalled but BlackBerry has done a good job again.
To each their own but I still can do everything I choose to do and I assure you that other than games there is a lot that I do do coming from a jailbroken iphone to a rooted Android now BlackBerry Passport.
Posted via CB1004-09-17 06:48 AMLike 0 -
I always feel like, when I have a phone sized screen, I don't want to stream movies, or play intense games. It's too small and fiddly. I'm like you, I'd rather rock the tablet (windows in my case).
There are some apps that deliver features websites don't. Like the uber app. But IDK, I think often the app thing is over stated. You don't need uber, you can just hail a taxi. It's largely more fun than it is functional. Something people like to be able to do, but when it comes down to it, they mostly just use a smaller number of core apps.
Guess it depends on what you need, but I don't personally imagine most people need 2.8 million apps, any more than the average person needs adobe illustrator.
But as someone that likes fiddling with toys, I totally understand the drive to kit out your phone should you want to04-09-17 07:01 AMLike 0 - We are on a forum where people are pretty objectively rude all day long. There is argumentation, ego posturing, implied ad homs, sarcasm. And the mods aren't squeaky clean when it comes to conduct either. It's to be honest, a fairly hostile forum for a something as unimportant as mobile phones. It's not a forum I'll be on for long for that reason.Drael646464 and nhatanh181 like this.04-09-17 07:28 AMLike 2
- Tre LawrenceBetween Realities
As far as missing apps I really don't see what the difference is between using an app or a saved webpage to your homescreen. They load just as fast and appear to be the same. Bank's websites are secure just like the app. If you say features well that depends on the developer, that's not always the case.
Apps from corporations can and mostly do provide a tailor-made experience for mobile users.04-09-17 07:34 AMLike 0 -
Mind you I have direct deposit and I can transfer money as I please
Posted via CB1004-09-17 07:55 AMLike 0
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