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Consensus says it does take time to get used to, yes. However the comparison has been drawn it is similar to the jump from qwerty to touchscreen.
First hours will be awkward, though over time you will learn and develop muscle memory for the new layout.
Posted via CB10jjfad likes this.09-18-14 08:44 PMLike 1 - It will take adjustment. Touch-typing with complex sentences (commas, numbers, dashes, parentheticals, other punctuation) will be next to impossible. Unfortunately. But for general communication, I'm not expecting too much difficulty. My typed correspondence will need to become simpler, but maybe that's for the best. I'll miss quotations, semicolons, and apostrophes quite a bit. I don't use autocorrect on my Q10 and will have to adjust to it on the Passport.
It's silly that they couldn't get an alt key on there in order to double the physical characters available. But what can you do. I'm looking forward to the experience, but I'll inevitably migrate to the Classic once it becomes available.
Posted via CB1009-18-14 09:10 PMLike 0 - It will take adjustment. Touch-typing with complex sentences (commas, numbers, dashes, parentheticals, other punctuation) will be next to impossible. Unfortunately. But for general communication, I'm not expecting too much difficulty. My typed correspondence will need to become simpler, but maybe that's for the best. I'll miss quotations, semicolons, and apostrophes quite a bit. I don't use autocorrect on my Q10 and will have to adjust to it on the Passport.
It's silly that they couldn't get an alt key on there in order to double the physical characters available. But what can you do. I'm looking forward to the experience, but I'll inevitably migrate to the Classic once it becomes available.
Posted via CB10
This very question currently drives me more towards the Classic, since you still have a full keyboard which of course offers complete control over the stuff you are typing. I'll give the Passport a try for sure, alone for the fact because I am curious how it will work in person.
There sure will be some learning curve, but this is often the case when settling over to a new keyboard. Making full advantage of it might even take a couple of days.
Posted via CB1009-19-14 04:20 AMLike 0 - Auto correct may be able to help you guys tremendously with commas and apostrophes. All other symbols will surely take a bit to get used to, and I'm not looking forward to that slow down either. Here are some of mine if it helps:
Wel ---> We'll
Wer ---> We're
I'll add commas to my passport auto correct for common words like:
But ---> , but
And ---> , and
Posted via CB1009-19-14 06:34 AMLike 0 - Auto correct may be able to help you guys tremendously with commas and apostrophes. All other symbols will surely take a bit to get used to, and I'm not looking forward to that slow down either. Here are some of mine if it helps:
Wel ---> We'll
Wer ---> We're
I'll add commas to my passport auto correct for common words like:
But ---> , but
And ---> , and
Posted via CB10
Posted via CB1009-19-14 07:10 AMLike 0 -
This is becoming a world of illiterates, people who don't know how to talk or write. Now people write more than in the past, but not nearly as good.Taigatrommel likes this.09-19-14 10:40 AMLike 1 -
Hopefully not double-typed with my Q1009-19-14 12:10 PMLike 0 -
- If you've used the touch screen keyboards on BlackBerry 10 you'll know you have non to worry about. Work prediction and flick typing is a much faster way of typing than the physical keyboard. I have both and the virtual keyboard is just too good.
Not to mention English doesn't even have accented letters. Writing in french on the physical keyboard without word suggestions or word substitution must be a nightmare for example, but it's a breeze on the virtual keyboard
Posted via CB1009-19-14 07:58 PMLike 0 -
Lol, sorry dude, I couldn't help myself. :-P
But I agree with you though. :-)
?Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB1009-20-14 12:02 AMLike 0 - If you've used the touch screen keyboards on BlackBerry 10 you'll know you have non to worry about. Work prediction and flick typing is a much faster way of typing than the physical keyboard. I have both and the virtual keyboard is just too good.
Not to mention English doesn't even have accented letters. Writing in french on the physical keyboard without word suggestions or word substitution must be a nightmare for example, but it's a breeze on the virtual keyboard
Posted via CB10
Use your brains people. It's literally something that if you don't use it you lose it. Yes, you do actually get dumber if you never use your brain...
?Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB1009-20-14 12:05 AMLike 0 - If you've used the touch screen keyboards on BlackBerry 10 you'll know you have non to worry about. Work prediction and flick typing is a much faster way of typing than the physical keyboard. I have both and the virtual keyboard is just too good.
Not to mention English doesn't even have accented letters. Writing in french on the physical keyboard without word suggestions or word substitution must be a nightmare for example, but it's a breeze on the virtual keyboard
Posted via CB10
I know you can type faster with most virtual keyboards here, especially if you have just a casual chat going on. However I'd rather prefer having complete control about my characters, commas and paragraphs, same with special characters. I am German, so I indeed have to deal with stuff like , , - not as bad as in some other languages, but yes it slows me down, however in the end of the day it is more comfortable in typing a bit slower than having to rely on the software guessing my words right.
Again, I am curious to try out the Passport once I get the chance. Yet I am very skeptical it will be my final choice.
Hopefully not double-typed with my Q1009-20-14 04:15 AMLike 0 - It will take adjustment. Touch-typing with complex sentences (commas, numbers, dashes, parentheticals, other punctuation) will be next to impossible. Unfortunately. But for general communication, I'm not expecting too much difficulty. My typed correspondence will need to become simpler, but maybe that's for the best. I'll miss quotations, semicolons, and apostrophes quite a bit. I don't use autocorrect on my Q10 and will have to adjust to it on the Passport.
It's silly that they couldn't get an alt key on there in order to double the physical characters available. But what can you do. I'm looking forward to the experience, but I'll inevitably migrate to the Classic once it becomes available.
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it's capacitive, remember?
Way way easier than hitting a little alt-key somewhere.
Posted via CB1009-20-14 04:30 AMLike 0 -
As for Word Substitution...this is my personal hobbyhorse. Used thoughtfully, you can make your text entry much faster and much more accurate. As of today, I have 460 Word Sub entries, most of them common English words. Because they are common, I rarely type a sentence without using several of them, saving many keypresses in the process. It doesn't make me dumber to type "bcs" to get "because," or "wo" to get "without" or "mk" to get make. Just those three substitutions saved me 11 keypresses, which is several seconds of time. And of course, accuracy is guaranteed. It all adds up.
Note that Auto-correct and Word Substitution are not the same thing. You can turn the former off and still use the latter. Predictive text and Word Substitution are not the same either. You can turn "Show Predictions" off and Word Substitution will still work; it just won't show the entries in green.
I see no virtue in thumb-typing every single letter of every word, and ignoring suggested words that I'm about to type anyway.09-21-14 03:14 PMLike 0 - Nope, I start reaching for the alt key while typing the last normal character. You have to wait until you're done with that before you can swipe down to get the special characters. Plus, there's no delay in the swiping, then the special characters showing up, they're already right there on the keyboard. And typing multiple special characters in a row is simple by holding the alt key, then releasing when you're ready to go back to normal characters...09-30-14 08:34 PMLike 0
- Why not? Word prediction doesn't require any sacrifice in accuracy. It's trained by you to suggest the next likely word, based on your own usage. Unless you routinely use misspelled words or non-words, it's not going to suggest them. And of course, nothing compels you to accept them. Much of the time, however, the predicted word is the one you want. If you type "as good" it's going to suggest "as" for the next word, due to the fact that this "as good as" is a common English phrase. You're not dumbing down you're writing by exploiting the statistical regularities of the language to save keypresses.
As for Word Substitution...this is my personal hobbyhorse. Used thoughtfully, you can make your text entry much faster and much more accurate. As of today, I have 460 Word Sub entries, most of them common English words. Because they are common, I rarely type a sentence without using several of them, saving many keypresses in the process. It doesn't make me dumber to type "bcs" to get "because," or "wo" to get "without" or "mk" to get make. Just those three substitutions saved me 11 keypresses, which is several seconds of time. And of course, accuracy is guaranteed. It all adds up.
Note that Auto-correct and Word Substitution are not the same thing. You can turn the former off and still use the latter. Predictive text and Word Substitution are not the same either. You can turn "Show Predictions" off and Word Substitution will still work; it just won't show the entries in green.
I see no virtue in thumb-typing every single letter of every word, and ignoring suggested words that I'm about to type anyway.09-30-14 08:37 PMLike 0 - One week and I'm now typing just as fast and confident as on my Q10.
Swiping words and symbols improves speeds tremendously and word suggestions are better every day. The contextual the row is good, if you long-press them you get alternative symbols too for a little more ease.
Typing blind is easy because the symbols are still mapped to the keyboard, takes a few days to learn their positions.
For numeral fields like passwords you get 1 row with numbers instead of full symbol list which is good.
When I now grab my Q10 again the first thing I think of is "wow this keyboard sure is cramped".
All I wish now is for the currency symbol to ffin' change from $ to another currency by default. Still don't have that setting.
BlackBerry Passport signed.10-01-14 04:07 AMLike 0 -
Do you mean you have all 10 digits on screen?
All I wish now is for the currency symbol to ffin' change from $ to another currency by default. Still don't have that setting.
But in this case, it's not a physical key, so you always need to invoke the symbol panel.10-01-14 04:21 AMLike 0
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