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  1. TheNoseybonk's Avatar
    599 Dollars in US
    529 Pounds in UK (Equivalent to $867)
    One word:
    Despicable!

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    09-24-14 01:11 PM
  2. jaydee5799's Avatar
    Wow! That's a terrible jump in price!
    09-24-14 01:15 PM
  3. chasdrury's Avatar
    599 Dollars in US
    529 Pounds in UK (Equivalent to $867)
    One word:
    Despicable!

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    This is misleading. The us price is excluding tax. The UK price includes it. Yes, it's more but as noted several times its online for 485 Inc tax so not a million miles away.

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    09-24-14 01:23 PM
  4. RedMace's Avatar
    And that's why we are known as rip off Britain

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    09-24-14 01:25 PM
  5. chasdrury's Avatar
    And that's why we are known as rip off Britain

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    Where is the rip off? 485 inclusive of vat is 404 ex vat. 404 pounds is about 650 dollars so 50 dollars more than the USA - which is, what, 30 pounds. Big deal. Tech is always more in the UK than the US - 30 pounds more certainly no top off IMO

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    09-24-14 01:32 PM
  6. H4zN's Avatar
    It's ?600 in the Netherlands incl. tax, so it's comparable as well.

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    09-24-14 02:11 PM
  7. sjwpenney's Avatar
    And that's why we are known as rip off Britain

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    I'm neither American nor British but I've lived in the U.K. and suggest that like Canadians Brits pay higher taxes but do fairly well on accessible high-quality health care, accessible post-secondary, etc. (I'm thankful for the NHS were I was treated well on one or two occasions). It burns me too sometimes to pay the difference but it's a choice we make at the ballot box as to our priorities. Expensive but I don't know if it's a rip-off.
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    09-24-14 02:17 PM
  8. TheNoseybonk's Avatar
    This is misleading. The us price is excluding tax. The UK price includes it. Yes, it's more but as noted several times its online for 485 Inc tax so not a million miles away.

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    599 Dollars is equivalent to 366 Pounds. Most American states levy a sales taxes too like our VAT. So you defending the indefensible!! It's a rip off whichever way you look at it. BlackBerry should be looking after those countries who have kept it afloat, the USA isn't one of them!!

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    09-24-14 03:51 PM
  9. UKAsh's Avatar
    US$599 (before sales tax) = 367 before VAT
    UK VAT = 73.50, therefore total UK price should be 440.50 based on American pricing.
    That's a mark-up of 88.50 / $145.


    However sjwpenney makes a valid point, therefore we should do a price comparison without VAT included

    Current UK Price (including VAT) 529.00 = $865.00
    Removing VAT, UK price 441.00
    US$599 (before sales tax) = 367 before VAT

    That's a mark-up of 74 / $121.

    Still a big mark-up without factoring tax. A number of USA states do not charge sales tax.
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    09-24-14 04:06 PM
  10. sjwpenney's Avatar
    You can do cost comparisons on the face of it but the entire supply chain informing retail costs is higher due to the tax. That 74 difference bites but again how BlackBerry or any other retailer compensate for input costs that are higher in every instance. In Canada the dollar is not far off in value vs the US dollar but retail before tax there's an even $100 difference - we see similar differentials with every single product we buy.

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    09-24-14 04:21 PM
  11. offyoutoddle's Avatar
    none of which changes the basic fact - not the consumers problem. They will simply buy a different phone if they think it is a rip off. And it is. Watch this bomb in the UK. More importantly, it will be interesting to see how many carriers and shops over here evern stock it, based on the lack of availability of the Z30 even. BlackBerry is fighting for survival. They need to stack the deck in their favour,n ot against themselves......

    You can do cost comparisons on the face of it but the entire supply chain informing retail costs is higher due to the tax. That 74 � difference bites but again how BlackBerry or any other retailer compensate for input costs that are higher in every instance. In Canada the dollar is not far off in value vs the US dollar but retail before tax there's an even $100 difference - we see similar differentials with every single product we buy.

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    09-24-14 04:27 PM
  12. UKAsh's Avatar
    You can do cost comparisons on the face of it but the entire supply chain informing retail costs is higher due to the tax. That 74 � difference bites but again how BlackBerry or any other retailer compensate for input costs that are higher in every instance. In Canada the dollar is not far off in value vs the US dollar but retail before tax there's an even $100 difference - we see similar differentials with every single product we buy.

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    That argument would only be of merit, if the product was made in the USA and/or distributed from the USA. In these cases it would be understandable for the product to be cheaper in the USA as shipping would be cheaper in a domestic market.

    The Passport is manufactured in China, so shipping would be cheaper to the UK then the USA. In addition Blackberry's European/International offices are in the UK. So it should actually be cheaper or nearer the same price. I am not sure how sales tax works in Canada, however in the UK business never pays sales tax, the end consumer does, all businesses do is facilitate the collection of the taxes from the consumer.
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    09-24-14 04:33 PM
  13. TheNoseybonk's Avatar
    That argument would only be of merit, if the product was made in the USA and/or distributed from the USA. In these cases it would be understandable for the product to be cheaper in the USA as shipping would be cheaper in a domestic market.

    The Passport is manufactured in China, so shipping would be cheaper to the UK then the USA. In addition Blackberry's European/International offices are in the UK. So it should actually be cheaper or nearer the same price. I am not sure how sales tax works in Canada, however in the UK business never pays sales tax, the end consumer does, all businesses do is facilitate the collection of the taxes from the consumer.
    Nicely put....

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    09-24-14 04:43 PM
  14. Baked's Avatar
    Does your country not have an import tariffs? May explain the difference.

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    09-24-14 06:05 PM
  15. chasdrury's Avatar
    The other thing is profit for the companies selling it. They are available from distribution at low 300's without tax. The lowest I've seen it to a customer is 360+ tax so far. Mine will be delivered on Monday at th is price

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    09-24-14 06:38 PM
  16. ConorRobinson's Avatar
    Can't see this selling too well in the UK at that price, thought it would have been around 400 at the most.

    The way I see it is if someone is willing to spend that kind of money on a smartphone they would probably go for a samsung or iphone due to the popularity of those devices, I can't imagine many people here spending that kind of money on a blackberry.

    On the other hand if the price was around 400 they would more than likely buy the passport due to what they are getting for such a great price.

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    09-24-14 06:51 PM
  17. world traveler and former ceo's Avatar
    With exchange rate and taxes paid $801 dollars canadian on shop BlackBerry....

    $599 us...for us delivery plus any taxes they charged there..

    Gonna enjoy my Passport!!



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    09-24-14 07:02 PM
  18. dvarnai's Avatar
    The price is just bad. 1 usd - 1 eur is something we Europeans are used to but I'm sorry this pricing is ridiculous... 600 usd - 650 eur... including taxes it's still less than 650 usd even in the us and we don't even get free shipping

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    09-24-14 07:13 PM
  19. UKAsh's Avatar
    The other thing is profit for the companies selling it. They are available from distribution at low 300's without tax. The lowest I've seen it to a customer is 360+ tax so far. Mine will be delivered on Monday at th is price

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    Are you based in the UK?
    09-25-14 07:17 AM
  20. chasdrury's Avatar
    Are you based in the UK?
    Yes
    09-25-14 07:36 AM
  21. Wmsi's Avatar
    This biggest problem is that it's just ten pounds less than an iPhone 6. It won't tempt anybody at that price.
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    09-25-14 07:52 AM
  22. UKAsh's Avatar
    Yes
    How did you get it at that price, is it through a managed service provider?
    09-25-14 07:55 AM
  23. chasdrury's Avatar
    How did you get it at that price, is it through a managed service provider?
    No, the company we buy all our kit from buy from Ingram Micro or computer2k and depending what the reseller adds on depends on the price.

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    09-25-14 08:07 AM
  24. UKAsh's Avatar
    No, the company we buy all our kit from buy from Ingram Micro or computer2k and depending what the reseller adds on depends on the price.

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    My managed service provider said they won't stock the device yet. A decision will be made mid Oct. I wondering if I should buy it independently, even though I am unhappy about the pricing variance between the USA and UK.
    09-25-14 08:30 AM
  25. chasdrury's Avatar
    09-25-14 08:50 AM
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