So what happens when BlackBerry 10 is no longer a supported OS?
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Ironically, Apple fits the description of what I'm talking about very well, but just not in a way that supports my activities.
Posted with my trusty Z1002-14-18 01:33 PMLike 0 -
The only reason that Android is the more obvious choice is because it is more agnostic to the other devices /systems that you can integrate with it. That is very important to me.02-14-18 01:48 PMLike 0 -
Others around here use 3rd party mobile apps for work. I haven't found any I can stomach.
Posted with my trusty Z10KAM1138 likes this.02-14-18 01:52 PMLike 1 -
- SMS/MMS, File Manager, Media Player, Picture Gallery, Notification Handler. All FAR more powerful and integrated on Android instead of the lowest common denominator solutions of BB10.
I don't think there is anything else that BlackBerry had to provide to "bridge" what wasn't available to them.02-14-18 01:59 PMLike 0 - SMS/MMS, File Manager, Media Player, Picture Gallery, Notification Handler. All FAR more powerful and integrated on Android instead of the lowest common denominator solutions of BB10.
I don't think there is anything else that BlackBerry had to provide to "bridge" what wasn't available to them.02-14-18 02:08 PMLike 0 - SMS/MMS, File Manager, Media Player, Picture Gallery, Notification Handler. All FAR more powerful and integrated on Android instead of the lowest common denominator solutions of BB10.
I don't think there is anything else that BlackBerry had to provide to "bridge" what wasn't available to them.
But I accept your point that BlackBerry was never a major app developer and shouldn't be expected to become one. In that case, I would frankly be happier if BlackBerry simply selected a number of quality app partners chosen for their integrity, track record, and robust security model.
The point of this is that I am not the least bit interested in micro managing my phone set up. One of the things I always valued about BlackBerry devices is that they simply worked, with very little input needed by the end user.
If I wanted to be an IT director responsible for software assessment and procurement I would have chosen that career. But I get zero return for time spent educating myself about 3rd party file managers and media players. It is a waste of my time, and there is no reason to suspect that I will make better choices than a professional.
What's worse, every app I install creates additional complexity and risk. That would be acceptable if doing so added substantial value, but it's just a distraction from real work.
Please understand that the control and customization you value so highly are not very valuable to some of us. I will spend hours fine tuning the processing on my workstation because that has a tangible financial reward, but I get no such return for time spent selecting and configuring apps for my phone.
Posted with my trusty Z1002-14-18 04:27 PMLike 0 -
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Of course that isn't the goal, the goal is to maximize the number of downloads and eyeballs by feeding consumers' addiction to constant digital feedback.
If apps were all ad-free and cost $50-500 each I wonder how many downloads we'd see.
Posted with my trusty Z1002-14-18 06:01 PMLike 0 -
Posted with my trusty Z10KAM1138 likes this.02-14-18 06:22 PMLike 1 -
What I can't help but see, is that from the Android deal, BlackBerry doesn't have consumers as their customers anymore. They have TCL. So, as long as they keep making money from that license, they really are not concerned. They aren't trying to get more people to buy their handsets, they are trying to get other companies to license their patents.
BlackBerry, as a software company, is not interested in growing their market share in the smartphone industry anymore. As a company, they would be totally fine if BlackBerry handsets disappeared altogether. They are not investing into that part of their company. That's the hard suspicion that I can't help but have. Part of the reason that BB10 was such a financial loss for the company was because of how much they invested into it. I feel like maybe they over-corrected...
I'm not that big of a football fan but, if the move to Android was their 'Hail Mary', it's as if they miraculously tied up the game, won the coin toss, and then handed possession over to the other team.Troy Tiscareno likes this.02-14-18 06:54 PMLike 1 - What I can't help but see, is that from the Android deal, BlackBerry doesn't have consumers as their customers anymore. They have TCL. So, as long as they keep making money from that license, they really are not concerned. They aren't trying to get more people to buy their handsets, they are trying to get other companies to license their patents.
BlackBerry, as a software company, is not interested in growing their market share in the smartphone industry anymore. As a company, they would be totally fine if BlackBerry handsets disappeared altogether. They are not investing into that part of their company. That's the hard suspicion that I can't help but have. Part of the reason that BB10 was such a financial loss for the company was because of how much they invested into it.
I'm not that big of a football fan but, if the move to Android was their 'Hail Mary', it's as if they miraculously tied up the game, won the coin toss, and then handed possession over to the other team.
BB was NEVER good at, and never really wanted to be involved with dealing with end-users. They were always B2B-focused, and only circumstances led to them becoming somewhat consumer-focused for a while. That time has largely ended. Chen has re-focused BB in areas of its strength, and won't spend any further money in areas where it is weak and where there is incredible competition.
That's now TCL's burden.Dunt Dunt Dunt likes this.02-14-18 10:01 PMLike 1 - The way I look at BlackBerry's current offering of software and services and a high focus on mobile for enterprise. A lot of the product and services they are offering are geared towards government and enterprise mobility solutions and are being used on tablets, mobile phones etc
The way I see things is that it cab be easier to manage and sell their suite of services and products if you still have a minor presence in the mobile space. I know that BlackBerry isn't a major player in the device business anymore but the BlackBerry devices sold over the last 2-3 years, although small, still represent a few hundred thousand units. The biggest issue was BlackBerry was losing money on all the sales!
They don't have that issue any more, they have a team that takes care of the software on their BlackBerry Android experience, a small team that works closely with BlackBerry Mobile (TCL) for putting out devices along with other contract manufactures. I believe that John Chen has indicated that the division operates on something close to 90% margin.
If BlackBerry can get the device licensing business to bring in $100 mil a year in revenue and growing, that's a healthy little business they got going on. If it doesn't work out well for some reason, losing out on $25 mil a quarter in sales shouldn't materially affect what should be a growing BlackBerry top line, primarily driven by IOT, Radar, QNX Automotive etc in the future.
Posted via CB1002-14-18 10:34 PMLike 0 - For every great, well-engineered app from a fantastic company there are 100,000 crap apps, a significant number of which eventually get identified as bad actors. How is the average user to know the difference? I'm all for competition, but there is no transparency for the average user who falsely believes that, because it's available via an official app store, UT must be OK.
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And the fact that you don't really have 100% certainty about what the apps are doing in the background is scary.
I mean, in the end is not much different from a PC, where you can install all sorts of crap, but you have more control to see what the software is doing (or at least it feels like it :P).
How many times we read news about apps (or even Google itself) using data the users strictly disabled?02-15-18 01:46 PMLike 0 - And the fact that you don't really have 100% certainty about what the apps are doing in the background is scary.
I mean, in the end is not much different from a PC, where you can install all sorts of crap, but you have more control to see what the software is doing (or at least it feels like it :P).
How many times we read news about apps (or even Google itself) using data the users strictly disabled?Mecca EL likes this.02-15-18 01:52 PMLike 1 -
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- So, you buy a phone, pay for the hardware and the OS (android in this case) and then pay again for the handful of apps needed to do basic things. BUT, they whole ecosystem keep carving you to sell adds cause "it's the way it works"...
Posted vía CB10 with my Passport SE SQW100-402-15-18 04:04 PMLike 0 - So, you buy a phone, pay for the hardware and the OS (android in this case) and then pay again for the handful of apps needed to do basic things. BUT, they whole ecosystem keep carving you to sell adds cause "it's the way it works"...
Posted vía CB10 with my Passport SE SQW100-402-15-18 04:10 PMLike 0 - So, you buy a phone, pay for the hardware and the OS (android in this case) and then pay again for the handful of apps needed to do basic things. BUT, they whole ecosystem keep carving you to sell adds cause "it's the way it works"...
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