[H4zN]

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I don't really see any differences. Def. not as drastic as yours.

Could be me, but seems like the SE's colors are more vivid.

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[gallopiton]

I see the same, more vivid colors on the SE pic

Could be me, but seems like the SE's colors are more vivid.

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[Bla1ze]

Could be me, but seems like the SE's colors are more vivid.

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All relative to the monitor we're all looking at it on as well. But now that you mention it, they do look a bit more vivid ON the device. In any case, it still doesn't qualify to me personally as 'drastically improved'. Slightly maybe..but it's still the same core hardware, with the exception of the front facing cameras.

[Ment]

Could be an artifact of greater contrast in the SE pic but the lines looks sharper to me.

[H4zN]

All relative to the monitor we're all looking at it on as well. But now that you mention it, they do look a bit more vivid ON the device. In any case, it still doesn't qualify to me personally as 'drastically improved'. Slightly maybe..but it's still the same core hardware, with the exception of the front facing cameras.

Same here, on my Passport with very low brightness.

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[Bla1ze]

Low light still sucks on them all though lol.

[imcurved]

Hardware is the same so I can't imagine any improvement. Again, if there were any hardware improvement for the camera, BlackBerry marketing department would have pointed it out in their sheet.

[Bla1ze]

Hardware is the same so I can't imagine any improvement. Again, if there were any hardware improvement for the camera, BlackBerry marketing department would have pointed it out in their sheet.

Pretty much.

[Iggy City]

How's the focus time?

[deadcowboy]

OG:
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I don't really see any differences. Def. not as drastic as yours. Honestly, I think your OG camera is just messed up somehow lol.

Blaz1e, those are a little too close to get an accurate assessment. Try something at 3-5 feet. My closeups were sharp in the corners, but super smeary at portrait distance.

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[Bla1ze]

blaz1e, those are a little too close to get an accurate assessment. Try something at 3-5 feet. My closeups were sharp in the corners, but super smeary at portrait distance.

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[theonecid]

Damn. To be honest I think both the OP's pics look damn bad. Are those really 2015 smartphone cameras?

[Bla1ze]

Damn. To be honest I think both the OP's pics look damn bad. Are those really 2015 smartphone cameras?

Exactly what I was thinking.. like someone smudged vaseline all over the lens. No offense OP lol.

[Fastmarc]

SE: f/2.0 at 1/5s and 798iso

OG: f/2.0 at 1/5s and 798iso

The phones chose these settings because the light was pretty low. That shutter speed is too slow for such a test hand held. A tripod would be needed. Also, at that wide an aperture and distance to subject, depth of field would be very narrow and a factor, so both would have to have been focused at exactly the same spot.
Like someone suggested, you would need a more controlled test to see if there is a difference.

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[mad_mdx]

Exactly what I was thinking.. like someone smudged vaseline all over the lens. No offense OP lol.

Well for starters, he's obviously zoomed in on those pictures which makes this probably the worse camera comparison of the century

[dejanh]

Exactly what I was thinking.. like someone smudged vaseline all over the lens. No offense OP lol.

It is pretty easy to grease up your Passport lens with your fingers because of the location. It results in a dreamy haze effect

[deadcowboy]

The phones chose these settings because the light was pretty low. That shutter speed is too slow for such a test hand held. A tripod would be needed. Also, at that wide an aperture and distance to subject, depth of field would be very narrow and a factor, so both would have to have been focused at exactly the same spot.
Like someone suggested, you would need a more controlled test to see if there is a difference.

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Take a look at my centers at the top of the page. Sharp.

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[deadcowboy]

It is pretty easy to grease up your Passport lens with your fingers because of the location. It results in a dreamy haze effect

Take a look at the centers on page 2. Sharp.

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[dejanh]

Take a look at the centers on page 2. Sharp.

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It was a general statement

[Fastmarc]

Take a look at my centers at the top of the page. Sharp.

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I did. No way to tell where it is focused and at that f-stop and angle, it would make a difference. Was the photos cropped?
The softness at the edge looked like motion blurr to me on my phone which is to be expected at that shutter speed.

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[Chavez78]

Does the SE version focus faster than original?

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[deadcowboy]

I did. No way to tell where it is focused and at that f-stop and angle, it would make a difference. Was the photos cropped?
The softness at the edge looked like motion blurr to me on my phone which is to be expected at that shutter speed.

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Yes, these are extreme crops. Motion blur is not the issue. Focus is the same for both photos.

After further testing on flat fields, I'm finding that the whole bottom edge of my frame on the OG is smeary. The corners in the top are less suspect. I'm going to do further tests.

Personally, I'm thinking my new OG Passport has a lens defect.

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[Fastmarc]

Yes, these are extreme crops.

Then there is no way to see where the focus point is.

Focus is the same for both photos.

How can you tell?


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[deadcowboy]

Then there is no way to see where the focus point is.



How can you tell?


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I took the photo. I provided center crops which are the focal points of both frames. But forget it, I'm posting a more comprehensive thread. close this one someone, it's not serving any purpose at this point.

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[pttptppt]

Since the hardware on the front cameras are different, let's see a comparison between those 2

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