- Sorry, nothing you can do without a link... give me a link that my comment has less logic than yours or you will need to accept that my comment is as baseless as yours before...
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Posted via CB1003-21-17 05:06 PMLike 0 - Ongoing development and support? Hahahahaha wow. Take for example android- as you clearly know, most android devices are used AS IS, and the cost of the next software update tied into the next upgrade cycle which is especially true for Apple products. Are you talking about the 19th century?
This is why I've been mentioning that with each upgrade cycle, Google has been expanding its reach on users data to mitigate cost which is why android users should worry.
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Even with cheap Android devices, you can pay $200 for the new model the next year, port your entire ecosystem, attach all your gadgets and wearables, and keep on trucking minutes later.Last edited by conite; 03-21-17 at 05:19 PM.
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- But wait... are you saying that your statement without a link is valid and true, but the obvious fact from so many different indications that BB10 wasn't profitable needs a link or if not provided then there is no proof of that?
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Posted via CB1003-21-17 05:21 PMLike 0 - So how long can BB10 devices continue to be sold without ANY support or development, without any new SoCs, without ANY distribution or sales infrastructure? Without any buildings, warehouses, or office supplies? No designers, no engineers?
Even with cheap Android devices, you can pay $200 for the new model the next year, port your entire ecosystem, attach all your gadgets and wearables, and keep on trucking minutes later.
Posted via CB1003-21-17 05:24 PMLike 0 -
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Posted via CB1003-21-17 05:28 PMLike 0 -
Why is it such a massive problem for you lot to obey the rules of debate and retract a claim you can't back up?
Posted via CB1003-21-17 05:32 PMLike 0 - And that's exactly why I told you that your comment is silly... there are things that using common sense you will know, even without a link... it is a fact that BB10 is not profitable, it's a sad reality because I loved that OS... your contention is that, without a link, then it cannot be proved, even when you don't have a link to back up the opposite... since I heard that you stole some money, you will need to provide a link if you want to refute it, even when every single sign says that you did not...
03-21-17 05:38 PMLike 0 - And that's exactly why I told you that your comment is silly... there are things that using common sense you will know, even without a link... it is a fact that BB10 is not profitable, it's a sad reality because I loved that OS... your contention is that, without a link, then it cannot be proved, even when you don't have a link to back up the opposite... since I heard that you stole some money, you will need to provide a link if you want to refute it, even when every single sign says that you did not...
You claim it's a fact. I ask for evidence. You have none. End of story. Deal with it.
Posted via CB1003-21-17 05:44 PMLike 0 - BlackBerry is a public company. Even they admitted publicly on many occasions that BB10 unit sales fell far, far short of the level required for profitability.03-21-17 05:48 PMLike 0
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Posted via CB1003-21-17 05:53 PMLike 0 - Is that really what they said, or just a mistaken interpretation thereof? If accurate, how did they arrive at this conclusion? Were they talking about making the company as a whole profitable, or just BB10 devices? Do you have something to back up this assertion? Since you claim the existence of direct quotes, perhaps you can provide them. Or perhaps not.
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BlackBerry Ltd. isn’t ditching handsets just yet, with its top objective for 2017 to return its struggling device business to profitability, CEO John Chen told shareholders Wednesday.
“The device business must be profitable, we don’t want to run a business that drags on the bottom line,” Chen said at the company’s annual general meeting in Waterloo, Ont., held the day before the company releases its fiscal 2017 first quarter results.
“It’s time for us to get to the profitability … we’ve got to get there this year.”
From Code Mobile in October 2015:
In an interview at the Code Mobile conference today, CEO John Chen told*The Verge*that his goal is to sell five million smartphones a year, which will be necessary to make the business profitable. If that doesn't happen, Chen hinted that BlackBerry may exit the handset business altogether, which would be a huge shift from the BlackBerry of the past.
Crackberry (June 2014):
http://crackberry.com/says-blackberr...fitable-phones
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I could keep going forever.03-21-17 06:01 PMLike 0 - Calm down, you are going to have a heart attack if you keep getting this upset... and to be honest, I don't have to deal with anything... I can't care less if you understand my point or want to think that I am the one making fool of myself... at the end, link or not link, BB10 isn't profitable... kind of silly argument the whole thing... have a nice day!
For gods sake how many times? Evidence to back up the challenge is not required. That's the principle of burden of proof. Is your grasp of the fundamentals of proper reasoning really this poor?
You claim it's a fact. I ask for evidence. You have none. End of story. Deal with it.
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Posted via CB1003-21-17 06:08 PMLike 0 -
BlackBerry built a proprietary OS at a cost of many billions of dollars, and produced a handful of devices to support it. To say that one made money and another didn't is just a silly shell game of misallocating overhead costs.03-21-17 06:12 PMLike 0 -
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...mid-turnaround
We do not have numbers for the dteks, but I'm positive that android cannot have the desired effect blackberry hopes it to have and is a failed strategy.
Posted via CB1003-21-17 06:15 PMLike 0 - Omg, a slight gross profit on a low volume device still translates to spectacular losses for the device division.ScoopTheBowler likes this.03-21-17 06:32 PMLike 1
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That logic doesn't compute.03-21-17 07:11 PMLike 0 - I feel like I'm in the twilight zone. You have to be feeling the same way at this point.anon(2313227) likes this.03-21-17 07:14 PMLike 1
- Exactly. We don't know the exact numbers, but we know that at the time, t he passport was singlehandedly driving profit margins for blackberry.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...mid-turnaround
We do not have numbers for the dteks, but I'm positive that android cannot have the desired effect blackberry hopes it to have and is a failed strategy.
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