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  1. mikael11's Avatar
    Interesting, quite a big difference in focal length! About the sharpness I would say that the key2 pics often look sharper, but if you go closer/magnify them, they tend to have quite some artifacts of oversharpening and less details. Passport picture use to show more details, not the least in darker areas of the picture, where key2 instead smudge those areas. Passport delivers near the Priv, in my opinion, which I think has the best BlackBerry mobile camera.

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    03-12-20 04:21 PM
  2. Radoslav Valkov's Avatar
    What is great with PP camera is the focal length. It it shorter than most of the smartphones, which offers a reduced depth of field -> better bokeh, and it really makes a difference.
    You mean "longer " focal length?
    03-12-20 04:44 PM
  3. Radoslav Valkov's Avatar
    @guizmox Very interesting comparison! I see how Key2 performs better in regard to its HDR mode, it just looks better. It is also evident how the Passport quite often mishandles blue skies in non-HDR mode.
    03-12-20 04:45 PM
  4. guizmox's Avatar
    You mean "longer " focal length?
    Right My mistake !

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    03-12-20 04:46 PM
  5. guizmox's Avatar
    Interesting, quite a big difference in focal length! About the sharpness I would say that the key2 pics often look sharper, but if you go closer/magnify them, they tend to have quite some artifacts of oversharpening and less details. Passport picture use to show more details, not the least in darker areas of the picture, where key2 instead smudge those areas. Passport delivers near the Priv, in my opinion, which I think has the best BlackBerry mobile camera.

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    That's right, K2 tends to oversharp. I still have my Priv, I'll do some comparison shots with it. It's the best camera BB produced for a device, I'm with you

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    03-12-20 04:48 PM
  6. Radoslav Valkov's Avatar
    03-14-20 06:14 PM
  7. fasil rehman's Avatar
    Good picture

    BlackBerry Passport SE
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    03-14-20 07:48 PM
  8. fasil rehman's Avatar
    BlackBerry Passport SE
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    03-14-20 07:50 PM
  9. Tylerr64's Avatar
    Honestly wasn't expecting such great pics from this phone! Well done

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    03-15-20 09:30 PM
  10. guizmox's Avatar
    Snapped this one yesterday
    Attached Thumbnails The power of Passport's camera!-img_20200315_162352.jpg  
    03-16-20 05:23 AM
  11. Alin Torok's Avatar
    Snapped this one yesterday
    Very nice shot... and frog.

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    03-16-20 06:14 AM
  12. guizmox's Avatar
    Thank you very much !
    I did a new comparison test between the Passport, Key2 & Priv in extreme low-light conditions.

    - Passport : Used Camera++ app, photo mode, ISO 100, WB 3500k, Scene : Night Mode (the shutter speed is auto-calculated and can be go down to 1.0s)
    - Key 2 : Used stock camera app, manual mode, ISO 100, WB 3500k, Shutter Speed : 0.3s (the lower usable value)
    - Priv : Used stock camera app, manual mode, ISO 100, WB 3500k, Shutter Speed : 0.3s (the lower usable value)

    Pictures : Passport, Priv, Key2
    As you can see, the Passport is the only device that can take a decent picture because its shutter speed can reach 1.0s/ Other phones can't go below 0.3s, which makes a HUGE difference. I can increase picture luminosity on those shots and I'll be able to see some details, but Passport is definitively the best phone to use in a nearly dark environment (with some tweaking, of course : Camera++ is your friend ^^)
    Attached Thumbnails The power of Passport's camera!-passportll1s.jpg   The power of Passport's camera!-privll0.3s.jpg   The power of Passport's camera!-k2ll0.3s.jpg  
    03-17-20 12:07 PM
  13. guizmox's Avatar
    I also did the same test, but with "auto mode", using the stock app from all the 3 devices.
    As you can see, the Passport, with its 1.0s shutter speed, performs really well.
    Attached Thumbnails The power of Passport's camera!-passportllauto.jpg   The power of Passport's camera!-privllauto.jpg   The power of Passport's camera!-k2llauto.jpg  
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    03-17-20 12:11 PM
  14. Hrishikesh Jadhav's Avatar
    The power of PP cam compromise!

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    03-17-20 01:54 PM
  15. mikael11's Avatar
    Thanks @guizmox, I love your comparisons! You have made some earlier and it's interesting to challenge one's owns ideas about things.
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    03-17-20 04:25 PM
  16. Radoslav Valkov's Avatar
    @guizmox Wow! What a nice technical comparison! I am happy you stopped here and offered your great examples! Very nice frog, here is a tiny lizard with fill flash and the stock camera app:

    The power of Passport's camera!-img_20200304_132140.jpg
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    03-17-20 04:38 PM
  17. guizmox's Avatar
    Thank you very much, will probably add more comparisons in various situations.
    Beautiful lizard. Focus is just perfect ! The use of the flash is a good idea here, it adds some extra light to his head
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    03-18-20 02:48 AM
  18. guizmox's Avatar
    Another test, a focal length comparison.
    I used the default camera software for the 3 devices, and activated the 3x3 grid as well, this way, I was able to perfectly match the distance between the camera and the paper (you can see that I drawed some markers on the paper)
    In order : Passport, Priv, K2.
    I added a yellow rectangle to show you the in-focus differences between the 3 devices. I of course used the closest focus from the lens I was able to achieve on the camera app.

    We can observe that the in-focus zone is quite similar on all of those devices but the closest (from the lens) is coming from the Passport, that's why it's a better device for macro-shots.
    Attached Thumbnails The power of Passport's camera!-passportfocus.jpg   The power of Passport's camera!-privfocus.jpg   The power of Passport's camera!-k2focus.jpg  
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    03-18-20 05:55 AM
  19. guizmox's Avatar
    Here is a link to get the "raw" files if you're interested :
    https://1drv.ms/f/s!AjXwOsvc6am5i8YdmmqC1_tSx8s0pA
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    03-18-20 06:24 AM
  20. mikael11's Avatar
    Another test, a focal length comparison.
    I used the default camera software for the 3 devices, and activated the 3x3 grid as well, this way, I was able to perfectly match the distance between the camera and the paper (you can see that I drawed some markers on the paper)
    In order : Passport, Priv, K2.
    I added a yellow rectangle to show you the in-focus differences between the 3 devices. I of course used the closest focus from the lens I was able to achieve on the camera app.

    We can observe that the in-focus zone is quite similar on all of those devices but the closest (from the lens) is coming from the Passport, that's why it's a better device for macro-shots.
    Cool! Pp also seem to have a a more accurate white balance.
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    03-18-20 11:03 AM
  21. Radoslav Valkov's Avatar
    @guizmox Great post! I have always wanted to see such comparisons. Yes, like @mikael11 pointed out, WB seems to be the most accurate with the Passport. I am interested to know if this is the case. The Passport has some trouble with auto WB and I will provide examples in which cases that may be challenging for the device.
    03-18-20 11:20 AM
  22. guizmox's Avatar
    In fact, the paper is orange none of the 3 devices accurately reproduced the color

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    03-18-20 01:36 PM
  23. Radoslav Valkov's Avatar
    In fact, the paper is orange none of the 3 devices accurately reproduced the color

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    This is why I asked if that was the case. See these two pictures:

    The power of Passport's camera!-img_20200114_142750.jpg

    The power of Passport's camera!-img_20200114_142940.jpg

    I used PP's stock camera app for both photos. These yellow leaves were tricky for the AWB.
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    03-18-20 01:45 PM
  24. guizmox's Avatar
    Outch ! Fortunately we can manually set white balance by using Camera++

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    03-18-20 01:47 PM
  25. Radoslav Valkov's Avatar
    I gave it up for only one reason - its burst mode, not convenient for my goals.
    03-18-20 01:52 PM
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