- I think alot of it has to do with me showing a photo on the Passport. I've taken pics and shown friends who honestly believe that the pics look better than the ones they just took with their iPhone, Sammy etc. It really boils down to a full-screen square (unique to them) shot. I've never had anyone exclaim "what a weird shaped photo!" . I've had nothing but compliments and I also prefer to see my screen completely filled as opposed to black bars with the 4:3. It's all personal preference I guess.Radoslav Valkov likes this.01-14-20 03:20 PMLike 1
- Not often I do that - but good point - others would probably not care for a square shot on a 16:9 or otherwise screen.Radoslav Valkov likes this.01-14-20 03:23 PMLike 1
- This is the final result, the personal preference. The actual matter we are more interested in is how this preference is shaped. I think it is related to the perceptive mechanism which 1:1 triggers. From an artistic perspective, in my opinion, 1:1 is somehow more easily 'digested' and does not invoke complex thought about composition and spatial arrangement of all details that appear in a photo. For example, central composition is sometimes considered not particularly intriguing. With 1:1 central composition provides more straightforward interpretation and the ratio actually exhibits good ability to emphasize.brookie229 likes this.01-14-20 03:29 PMLike 1
- This is the final result, the personal preference. The actual matter we are more interested in is how this preference is shaped. I think it is related to the perceptive mechanism which 1:1 triggers. From an artistic perspective, in my opinion, 1:1 is somehow more easily 'digested' and does not invoke complex thought about composition and spatial arrangement of all details that appear in a photo. For example, central composition is sometimes considered not particularly intriguing. With 1:1 central composition provides more straightforward interpretation and the ratio actually exhibits good ability to emphasize.Radoslav Valkov likes this.01-14-20 04:11 PMLike 1
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... maybe the square lover's feel the symmetry of the 1:1 ratio. I love symmetry and it looks like a peace oft art to me to look on a symmetrical and optimal taken 1:1 picture .
... but ... I will have a look on the 4:3 ratio and see if I am able to take even better photos. But I am pretty sure I will prefer the 1:1
... and I also think. I am to lazy to keep a double collection. My favourite one-to-one and a in this case "original" 4to3.
Posted via CB10Radoslav Valkov likes this.01-15-20 12:17 AMLike 1 - ... we HAVE a really really weird peace of smartphone and I love it for this.
... maybe the square lover's feel the symmetry of the 1:1 ratio. I love symmetry and it looks like a peace oft art to me to look on a symmetrical and optimal taken 1:1 picture .
... but ... I will have a look on the 4:3 ratio and see if I am able to take even better photos. But I am pretty sure I will prefer the 1:1
... and I also think. I am to lazy to keep a double collection. My favourite one-to-one and a in this case "original" 4to3.
Posted via CB10Radoslav Valkov likes this.01-15-20 12:23 AMLike 1 -
... and I know. I could change a 4:3 picture but than I "feel" it no longer as my original "shot of the moment".
Thank you very much for your indication Conite :-) .
If a take photos for someone else I will consider now to use the 4:3.
Posted via CB10Radoslav Valkov likes this.01-15-20 12:48 AMLike 1 - The tip today is a note on flash use with the native camera app
Quite often a mobile phone flash is not a preferred option as it introduces unwanted reflections, red eye or other non-artistic issues arising from flash use. One of the most challenging bit in photography is to produce your own light and mix it with ambient light to achieve adequate exposure and artistic impact.
In order to keep things as much closer to reality as possible, I need to say that flash performance of the Passport is poor and the evident lack of any manual override of flash output makes things worse, metering also tells the flash to overexpose at close distances which the autofocus system is perfectly capable of. That may be one of the reasons many people could be discouraged from using flash on the Passport. However, when shooting with the Passport there is still a good opportunity to make use of fill flash.
Here are two photos without any significant differences, except the fact that flash is used for the second photo:
As you can see from the photos, there is a pattern: bright areas in the background (in this occasion the details behind the Rosehip fruit) are underexposed by less than -0.3 EV if flash is switched on. I will investigate this further but my overall impression is that the brighter the details in the background, the more the negative exposure compensation applied. Just keep this in mind when capturing your scene. I will do my best to provide further details on this matter on Sunday when I would be able to test the above-mentioned AE behaviour for various scene types.anon(10387168) and dmlis like this.01-15-20 03:53 AMLike 2 - Following my post above, here is an example where this pattern is even more detectable:
Regular shot (AE and AF locked)
Fill flash (AE and AF locked)
It should be noted that when focus and AE are locked, WB can still fluctuate if you reframe. I cannot confirm if there is any WB compensation when flash is on. Will update you soon on this matter and if flash could allow extra exposure and WB flexibility for landscapes.dmlis likes this.01-15-20 11:11 AMLike 1 -
- And why is that exactly? I still have old Symbian Nokia and Sony Ericsson phones that work today, and there's actually pics and videos stored there that can be accessed any time.Radoslav Valkov likes this.01-16-20 11:39 AMLike 1
- Following your post, I have a wonderful EIZO photographic screen bought in 2006, still works with zero dead pixels and has never undergone any maintenance. The issue with battery replacement compromises the whole concept of extending your device longevity. I still dream of Nokia E72 as a backup phone!saint300 likes this.01-16-20 11:45 AMLike 1
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Don't you keep a digital repository of all of your photos on a hard drive or server somewhere?
In 30 years from now are you going to need to find a Passport to look at all of your 1:1 images?01-16-20 11:47 AMLike 0 - Actually, no I don't need to fire up old phones just to look at pictures, and yes, I do have all pictures I want stored. I was merely saying that most devices, Passport included, can be used indefinitely.....well, maybe in the not so distant future not so fully, but still.Radoslav Valkov likes this.01-16-20 12:00 PMLike 1
- Actually, no I don't need to fire up old phones just to look at pictures, and yes, I do have all pictures I want stored. I was merely saying that most devices, Passport included, can be used indefinitely.....well, maybe in the not so distant future not so fully, but still.01-16-20 12:02 PMLike 0
- Following your post, I have a wonderful EIZO photographic screen bought in 2006, still works with zero dead pixels and has never undergone any maintenance. The issue with battery replacement compromises the whole concept of extending your device longevity. I still dream of Nokia E72 as a backup phone!Radoslav Valkov likes this.01-16-20 12:03 PMLike 1
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- Of course some will. I do a lot of post-processing and re-framing on pictures I take that I want to keep, and some do in fact end up at approx. 1:1. All I'm saying is that the criteria should be the subject - not the aspect ratio of your current device.01-16-20 12:05 PMLike 0
- A lifetime is a relative thing now, isn't it? And I forgot to answer to what you said above about 30 years on. So, in 30 years from now I will be 88 years old, exactly my dad's age today! I don't know if I will make it, but I doubt that if I do, my priorities will have anything to do with smartphones of the past, or the then- present....Radoslav Valkov likes this.01-16-20 12:07 PMLike 1
- A lifetime is a relative thing now, isn't it? And I forgot to answer what you said above about 30 years on. So, in 30 years from now I will be 88 years old, exactly my dad's age today! I don't know if I will make it, but I doubt that if I do, my priorities will have anything to do with smartphones of the past, or the then- present....
If they are all framed at 1:1 out of respect for the device at the time, instead of the subject material, then I would say that's not good.01-16-20 12:08 PMLike 0 - Which I can still do anytime since they are stored on my NAS and on DropBox and Box and OneDrive and also on dedicated USB devices. They view just fine (for my purposes) on any of my devices including 3 computers, PlayBook, Windows 10 Lenovo tablet etc etc etc.01-16-20 12:13 PMLike 0
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Alternatively, do you take your DSLR camera and force 1:1 instead of 4:3 via settings or a mask?01-16-20 12:15 PMLike 0 - So I did try a few shots in 4:3 and the pics are good. That being said, I did switch back to 1:1 as that's how I prefer to look at them. For me it is like pics of my childhood, most are square, black & white or faded colour. In 10, 30 or even a 100 years, the aspect ratio will still be pleasing and nostalgic.Radoslav Valkov and saint300 like this.01-16-20 12:22 PMLike 2
- Following your post, I have a wonderful EIZO photographic screen bought in 2006, still works with zero dead pixels and has never undergone any maintenance. The issue with battery replacement compromises the whole concept of extending your device longevity. I still dream of Nokia E72 as a backup phone!Radoslav Valkov likes this.01-16-20 12:23 PMLike 1
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