No stub! No Joke. It is called a Passport. Deal with it.
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No stub! No Joke. It is called a Passport. Deal with it.
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Remember the 8700? It had different models, like the 8700g, 8700c and 8700r. T-Mobile got the g, while Cingular/at&t got the c. They had the same keyboard, buttons, and screen, but had slightly different designs and *gasp* corners!
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I couldn't care less about the rounded or square corners. Just hope they both sell wherever they are offered.
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The rounded corners gives more subtlety to the phone to me. And more gentle (and acceptable) to the eyes (of general consumers) . Then again, I totally dig the squarish sharp look of the original. Gives me the impression of a durable, clean professional look.
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Who exactly are BB pissing off? First, not everyone will like the rounded edges more. Second, the got the biggest carrier in the U.S. to carry their two newest devices.
Chen IS listening to his customers and one of his biggest potential customers (AT&T) want rounded edges.
As for customers that bought the 'original' Passport, this isn't the first time that a smartphone maker made an exclusive design for a carrier. Why is it when BlackBerry does the exclusive design, all of a sudden it is stupid to do so?
I prefer the original. It looks more class and unique than all the rest of the phone.
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i have the original one but like the cornered passport better
It is so difficult to get carriers and manufactures to make cases for BlackBerry devices. It will be interesting to see if they will make cases for the AT&T version of the Passport...
With the extra space under the keyboard, are they laying the ground work for the fourth row of keys on a passport 2?
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I doubt it, they probably added that space because the AT&T product selection vp tried the Passport for an hour (ok, 10 minutes) and felt the keyboard was too low.
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That or they need space to fit the att logo
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Maybe hardcore users won't be effected because they will use an autoloader but the statement that it won't apply to anyone here is a bit odd and puzzling.. As I am sure you are well aware (based on your post count and user title) a very large portion of BB users don't or won't load a beta OS or want to use autoloader
I for one have zero interest in it and happily wait for official releases. I'd bet a large portion of BB users are the same. The bloat on AT&T devices IS an issue and the long waits for OS updates IS an issue.
The ugly logo that will more than likely be on the back of the device can easily be covered up by a case if you use one.
Sure the 10% (probably a higher % than real) that load beta OS won't have to deal with the bloat but the other 90% will and based on AT&T's past, I'd say the bloat will be massive and the wait for updates will be lengthy!
My .02
I can't do the rounded corners. 1) AT&T carrier branding on the back, and 2) the AT&T variant is a bigger device. My square corner Passport just fits in my tightest pants pocket without having to pry it out.
As a US consumer who couldn't wait for ATT's release, I love the square design, it's sleak and it definitely makes the device stand out more. That said, I understand exactly why ATT would have requested this design and I hope it pays off in more sales.
I'm just glad it's out there now. Sell these damn things ATT! I want more PP like products in the future and I want to see them replacing iphones in people's hands!
From the AT&T webite here is a photo of what the back logo looks like.. YUCK! Double YUCK!
Crackberry already has. There are pictures of this next to the Classic. Same design language for the frame. The breaks in the side of the frame look like the Q10 and the shape of the device is very Q5-ish. There's a lot "Classic BlackBerry" in this new Passport, whereas you saw the old one and you knew it wasn't business as usual. I look at this and I don't expect it to have high specs. Whereas people are never shocked when I tell them specs of my regular Passport. The very look of it tells them up front that it's not your mother's BlackBerry.
Passported to you with a touch enabled keyboard!
While I personally prefer the old look, I do tend to feel this is probably not such a good move for BlackBerry with regards to customers. I'm just thinking what if I actually liked the new design, I'd be pretty peeved right now because I just bought mine a month ago.....clearly its a business move and a very good one at that, because you don't approve a redesign for a few thousand phones, it would be interesting to know the minimum order quantity AT&T had to purchase for this...
I understand bloatware complaints about phones from carriers but am I the only one who doesn't remotely care about a carrier's logo on my phone? It's not exactly shocking that a carrier would want their logo on a phone their selling and providing service for and it sure as hell wouldn't detract from how much I love this phone.
Seems a pretty trivial complaint.
I know a lot of people who don't care about the carrier logo but it bothers me. See the image I posted a few posts up. Some might say it does not look bad but to my eye it's unneeded and ugly. I pay full price for my phones and am not interested in being a walking billboard for them.
Granted the AT&T logo size and placement is nowhere even close to being as bad as how Verizon butchers up their phones. Ever seen a Verizon branded Note 2? They stuck their logo right on the front home button and also had a large one on the back. That phone has to go down in history as one of the ugliest ever and it's all due to the VZW logos.
Different strokes I guess, I was just curious. I'd probably feel slightly annoyed if the phones were all nascar'd up with sponsorships and crap but just a logo isn't something I'd lose sleep over. I do know what you mean about VZW though, just nothing I ever cared about.
I wish BlackBerry would start making just the round model so the square ones would become collector's items.
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Round for sure!
Showed the new design to my wife (she uses the original Passport as well). She called the new design BlackBerry Poptart.
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Straight Edged Passport
Not unprecedented. Nokia has done it before with their Lumia line. AT&T got the 920, T-Mobile got the 925, and Verizon got the 928. All basically the same phone in a different shell