03-27-17 10:55 PM
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  1. rhp525i's Avatar
    So I just got home from the NYC meetup and here are some initial impressions and details of the phone:

    1. Everyone was super cool. The venue was nice and big enough and CBK is taller in person than expected. Haha! Also there was a Simon Sage sighting. Thought he left so it was nice to see him.
    2. The build quality of the phone is very good, but in no way does it compare to the passport.
    3. The disappointment for me was the reason I came in the first place - namely the KEYBOARD. The keys are way too small and not close to the quality of either the classic, bold 9900, or the passport.
    4. However, the screen was crisp and rendered colors and contrast sharply.
    5. The spacebar is only slightly elevated from the keys and looks almost flush.
    6. The weight mimicked the passport closely so it did at least feel solid in hand.
    7. It is not nearly as tall as I thought it would be.
    8. If they could have lengthened the phone about 1/2 inch and brought over the classic keyboard, this is an unqualified homerun. But, for me anyway, I will pass on it.
    9. I was speaking to a nice fellow who brought his Priv and I was surprisingly more impressed with its keyboard than the KEYone's.

    For Passport owners...you can pass on the KEYone-img_20170322_185631.jpg

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    03-22-17 09:22 PM
  2. rhp525i's Avatar
    Also, before I forget, there IS a virtual keyboard in portrait mode as well. It cuts off the screen by about 1/2. So take it as you wish.

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    03-22-17 09:27 PM
  3. Uzi's Avatar
    I think there is another reasion for Passport owner to move on if their apps need on bb10 not fulfill they simply will get KEYone
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    03-22-17 09:32 PM
  4. Drenegade's Avatar
    You're never going to get keys as large as the Passports on another phone unless they use the same form factor.

    I remember back when it first came out people were warning that if you use and love the Passport, you're going to be in trouble. Because you're never going to find a device that satisfies and feels like the Passport ever again.

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    03-22-17 09:41 PM
  5. rhp525i's Avatar
    You're never going to get keys as large as the Passports on another phone unless they use the same form factor.

    I remember back when it first came out people were warning that if you use and love the Passport, you're going to be in trouble. Because you're never going to find a device that satisfies and feels like the Passport ever again.

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    I'm not alking about the passport keyboard. I'm mainly referring to the classic's which could have been copied as they are basically the same width.

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    03-22-17 09:59 PM
  6. Drenegade's Avatar
    I'm not alking about the passport keyboard. I'm mainly referring to the classic's which could have been copied as they are basically the same width.

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    Ahh. Gotcha. Either way I'm sticking with the Passport for now. I usually buy technology when it's about a year old anyway.

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    03-22-17 10:05 PM
  7. vaspat3's Avatar
    How about email on blackberry android? Will it be as good as os10?

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    03-22-17 10:05 PM
  8. Rootbrian's Avatar
    The keyone is essentially the classic, just without qnx and the toolbelt, and runs android, but far more beefed up and faster. Capacitive keyboard, fingerprint scanner (wouldn't really be using it, what if I lost or burned the print off?), it's got all the goodies.

    But not the LTE band 66, that's what my carrier uses. If anything happens to this passport, then maybe the keyone is the next device for me.

    Typed using my BlackBerry Passport running the latest QNX software release 10.3.3 on Freedom Mobile DC-HSPA+
    03-22-17 10:06 PM
  9. rhp525i's Avatar
    We just have to wait and see, but I'm not holding my breath.

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    03-22-17 10:07 PM
  10. Rootbrian's Avatar
    How about email on blackberry android? Will it be as good as os10?

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    It all depends on the way the operating system handle e-mail. Sync times might be customisable, then again, I haven't bothered to experiment on android with my xperia smartphone and LG tablet. The passport is best still.

    Typed using my BlackBerry Passport running the latest QNX software release 10.3.3 on Freedom Mobile DC-HSPA+
    03-22-17 10:08 PM
  11. 93Aero's Avatar
    Thanks for the feedback OP, answered a few questions I had.

     Passport SQW100-1/ 10.3.1.2876, Q10 SQN100-5/10.3.1.2576, Classic SQC100-4/ 10.3.2.2836 
    03-22-17 10:17 PM
  12. vaspat3's Avatar
    It all depends on the way the operating system handle e-mail. Sync times might be customisable, then again, I haven't bothered to experiment on android with my xperia smartphone and LG tablet. The passport is best still.

    Typed using my BlackBerry Passport running the latest QNX software release 10.3.3 on Freedom Mobile DC-HSPA+
    That's my main concern with k1. Today on my work phone Galaxy s6 I was unable to pinpoint emails using search. The ones I found using search I was unable to forward them. On my passport I was able to do it seamlessly.

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    03-22-17 10:36 PM
  13. BigBadWulf's Avatar
    It all depends on the way the operating system handle e-mail. Sync times might be customisable, then again, I haven't bothered to experiment on android with my xperia smartphone and LG tablet. The passport is best still.

    Typed using my BlackBerry Passport running the latest QNX software release 10.3.3 on Freedom Mobile DC-HSPA+
    BlackBerry has done a great job with Android hub, and it keeps getting better. As for settings, judge for yourself.







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    03-22-17 10:39 PM
  14. BigBadWulf's Avatar
    That's my main concern with k1. Today on my work phone Galaxy s6 I was unable to pinpoint emails using search. The ones I found using search I was unable to forward them. On my passport I was able to do it seamlessly.

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    Using the hub? I use search all the time, and have had zero issues with it.
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    03-22-17 10:45 PM
  15. pkcable's Avatar
    We probably met, this is Rich, the "security" for the phone. Lol
    03-22-17 10:58 PM
  16. vaspat3's Avatar
    Using the hub? I use search all the time, and have had zero issues with it.
    Awesome. So the hub on k1 or other blackberry devices using Android are similar to email on os10?

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    03-22-17 11:14 PM
  17. BigBadWulf's Avatar
    Awesome. So the hub on k1 or other blackberry devices using Android are similar to email on os10?

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    Or other Android. Yes!
    03-22-17 11:17 PM
  18. Q10Bold's Avatar
    Awesome. So the hub on k1 or other blackberry devices using Android are similar to email on os10?

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    No. It duplicates the android stock notification center. Emails in the android hub are ok. But for me its still better on BB10.
    Sometimes you get double notifications, messages are not displayed correctly. For example from WA - you see only the last received ones. Even if the last ones was a message from you, so a send message. You dont see it. Today I have send 3 different messages from WA, even received one. But my hub shows old messages from 22 March :/
    The hub is JUST an app. For someone maybe a good email app but a poor notification app.
    You can use your android device a whole day and dont even touch the hub- because its faster and efficient to use the stock notification system.

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    03-23-17 04:47 AM
  19. BigBadWulf's Avatar
    No. It duplicates the android stock notification center. Emails in the android hub are ok. But for me its still better on BB10.
    Sometimes you get double notifications, messages are not displayed correctly. For example from WA - you see only the last received ones. Even if the last ones was a message from you, so a send message. You dont see it. Today I have send 3 different messages from WA, even received one. But my hub shows old messages from 22 March :/
    The hub is JUST an app. For someone maybe a good email app but a poor notification app.
    You can use your android device a whole day and dont even touch the hub- because its faster and efficient to use the stock notification system.

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    From all your posts, I was under the assumption you didn't have, and never would use an Android, till now.

    I don't experience the issue you noted, but I'm pleased you chose the example you did. How will WA be functioning in your BB10 hub a few months from now?

    When it comes to my 7 email accounts, BBM, text, phone calls, calendar events and Slack, the hub is working well, and continues to be my preferred tool for access and composition. I use my notification tray for other items, and have turned off notifications for all hub accounts.
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    03-23-17 06:50 AM
  20. vaspat3's Avatar
    No. It duplicates the android stock notification center. Emails in the android hub are ok. But for me its still better on BB10.
    Sometimes you get double notifications, messages are not displayed correctly. For example from WA - you see only the last received ones. Even if the last ones was a message from you, so a send message. You dont see it. Today I have send 3 different messages from WA, even received one. But my hub shows old messages from 22 March :/
    The hub is JUST an app. For someone maybe a good email app but a poor notification app.
    You can use your android device a whole day and dont even touch the hub- because its faster and efficient to use the stock notification system.

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    I would like to hear from Priv and Dtek users of Hub. Is the above true? If so blackberry 10 it is.

    I need efficiency when it comes to finding emails and attachments to get my job done. blackberry 10 does this better than ios and android systems. So the K1 will be on back burner until this gets resolved. All the shiny keys and app support will not get the task done!

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    03-23-17 06:51 AM
  21. BigBadWulf's Avatar
    I would like to hear from Priv and Dtek users of Hub. Is the above true? If so blackberry 10 it is.

    I need efficiency when it comes to finding emails and attachments to get my job done. blackberry 10 does this better than ios and android systems. So the K1 will be on back burner until this gets resolved. All the shiny keys and app support will not get the task done!

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    Hub search is fine and there's an attachment button, just like BB10. There's plenty of info on CrackBerry about Android hub functions. Y'all don't need to be wandering in the wilderness.
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    03-23-17 06:57 AM
  22. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    I get the feeling that if the KEYone is a flop, might not be too many options in the PKB department in the future (maybe a snap on case?). So in my mind, if you are a PKB lover (assume most all current Passport users are), it's in your own best interest to buy a KEYone on day one. Use it a a companion to the Passport.....

    Because I think the PKB form factor is going to need all the help it can get to survive.
    03-23-17 10:51 AM
  23. rhp525i's Avatar
    I get the feeling that if the KEYone is a flop, might not be too many options in the PKB department in the future (maybe a snap on case?). So in my mind, if you are a PKB lover (assume most all current Passport users are), it's in your own best interest to buy a KEYone on day one. Use it a a companion to the Passport.....

    Because I think the PKB form factor is going to need all the help it can get to survive.
    It's hard for me to say this, but I'd rather use a slab than the chintsy keyboard on the KEYone. Maybe I'm over thinking this but compared to the passport, the keyboard felt cheap. We'll see once the actual phone is launched. I can only say this bc I had a chance to test it out. Seems like I'm in the minority here.

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    03-23-17 11:01 AM
  24. rhp525i's Avatar
    I was expecting the clickiness and comparable size of the keys to the classic.

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    03-23-17 11:03 AM
  25. gallopiton's Avatar
    It's interesting because everyone but you praises the keyboard... maybe you were expecting something too close to the passport which is impossible given the form factor...

    It's hard for me to say this, but I'd rather use a slab than the chintsy keyboard on the KEYone. Maybe I'm over thinking this but compared to the passport, the keyboard felt cheap. We'll see once the actual phone is launched. I can only say this bc I had a chance to test it out. Seems like I'm in the minority here.

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    03-23-17 11:30 AM
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