- They could have put a full qwerty, but they didn't - they've elegantly combined the best experiences of both their well loved keyboards. I'm going to love being able to swipe down and flick up, in addition to having the tactile feedback. I'll adapt and get used to the passport way of typing.
But that doesn't mean anyone should get compromises, especially when there is no reason to exists.
This phone IS NOT meant to be BETTER than a traditional qwerty, isn't that obvious? It's meant to be innovative and yet still efficient way of typing. This new keyboard will still be miles ahead of any virtual keyboard out there.
Whoever doesn't want a keyboard won't look at it, they are fine without their keys and gestures, and word prediction works better.
Whoever want a keyboard for his efficiency, it's a let down.
If you're looking for a traditional qwerty, like I've said before - they got you covered with the classic so you can rock the 2011 look.
The point is about a full qwerty, functional and all, with added features.06-26-14 03:34 PMLike 0 - For people who've only ever known virtual keyboards and want to try a physical keyboard, I'm sure this will be an upgrade and not a let down.
So you want a full qwerty pkb, plus gestures right? Basically you'd be using it to scroll and as a trackpad and...that's it? Great utilization of this new technology.
What's the big deal?
The symbols and numbers are all mapped to the pkb, so you don't have to keep tapping the screen. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is exactly how it works on the Q devices now.
The most commonly and likely used extra keys will be the contextual 4th row, easily reachable by hand. No need to press alt and then the key, the commas, periods, and apostrophe will appear as needed. Amazing!
Any and all keyboards out there now, take up half the screen.
When you are typing, as I am now in CB, screen real estate is a non issue.
This thing is going to be amazing and all the whiners are going to be missing out.
Posted via CB1006-26-14 03:46 PMLike 0 - The more I see the more I like.
The Z30 is a fantastic all-touch device, and I was waiting for a high-end all-touch replacement. Gotta say, though, this is something genuinely new, and different, and VERY distinctive.
It will make a massive statement.
Posted from CB10 running on my awesome Z30 2B6927F7
I love my Z30, and was also looking forward to the next all-touch upgrade. Primarily for the large screen benefits. I have a Q10 through work, and it rarely gets used... because like many, I have come to like the extra screen real estate.
If the passport does in fact run 16:9 apps on its large screen - I've been thrown a curve ball I didn't expect.
I have grown to enjoy the virtual keyboard benefits of flick typing and gesture base erasing, and it's awesome that the passport's keyboard incorporates these.
What really pulls me in closer is that granular cursor control - with the keyboard acting as a trackpad. I don't need it for text selection, but it is very much welcomed. It will also be extremely useful for remote desktop... on the go.
Sadly though, if I try it out & like it - I'd need to sell the Z30 to help fund the purchase.
Posted via CB10Thunderbuck likes this.06-26-14 08:08 PMLike 1 - People in business are sometime old and have bad sight. Cramming the symbols in the keyboard had a repulsive effect on some
Saying: " What! The plus symbol is there!!?? It's so tiny"
Showing the symbols on the screen makes sense in that regard and even if it may not be an evolution it's at least an adaptation to a aging market.
Posted via CB1006-27-14 09:14 AMLike 0 - People in business are sometime old and have bad sight. Cramming the symbols in the keyboard had a repulsive effect on some
Saying: " What! The plus symbol is there!!?? It's so tiny"
Showing the symbols on the screen makes sense in that regard and even if it may not be an evolution it's at least an adaptation to a aging market.
On Passport, you would tap the virtual "more symbols" button.06-27-14 10:21 AMLike 0 -
Posted via CB1006-27-14 10:44 AMLike 0 -
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Not sure how it'll be implemented on the Passport, though... if it will be the same as the Z10/Z30 such that you swipe down, press KB equivalent of the on-screen symbol and then it'll disappear. OR you swipe down, press KB equivalent and then stays.
Posted via CB1006-27-14 01:10 PMLike 0 - Swipe once for number and first symbols
Swipe again gets other symbols
Swipe again takes you back to letters
So from numbers back to letters is two swipes or press letters key.
HTC TOUCH, Nokia-N97, BlackBerry Torch 9800, Z10Thunderbuck likes this.06-27-14 01:27 PMLike 1 - ThunderbuckRetired Moderator
If anything, flicking will work even better with the Passport. Sometimes there can be multiple word suggestions on the Z30 keyboard, and when I go to flick I'll get the wrong one. On the Passport there will only be 3 choices, with a flick on the left 3rd, the middle 3rd, or the right 3rd. Should be easy to pick the choice you want.06-28-14 12:55 AMLike 0 - I'm drawing a parallel b/w all the complaints over the tool belt to the one we're seeing here - boohoo, they've introduced a new typing experience, get over it.
Same sh*t as before, "why couldn't they have put a track pad, it's more accurate bla bla bla" - there are plenty of q10 users who got by just fine.
They could have put a full qwerty, but they didn't - they've elegantly combined the best experiences of both their well loved keyboards. I'm going to love being able to swipe down and flick up, in addition to having the tactile feedback. I'll adapt and get used to the passport way of typing.
This phone IS NOT meant to be BETTER than a traditional qwerty, isn't that obvious? It's meant to be innovative and yet still efficient way of typing. This new keyboard will still be miles ahead of any virtual keyboard out there.
If you're looking for a traditional qwerty, like I've said before - they got you covered with the classic so you can rock the 2011 look.
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I guess... that's why they went back on themselves and reintroduced the trackpad whilst people like you said everything is fine it's not needed?
Remember that "sh!t" OS7? It was outselling BB10, it's no wonder they brought back the classic to help save the company from further decline, whats it got, a trackpad, whats the Passport got? New innovative trackpad!
^ so much for not needing to address the lackluster trackpad on BB10 as "everything is fine" that they've Infact to some extent actually innovated.
I'm pretty sure they'll go back on themselves AGAIN on the Passport keyboard regarding no alt key as they did with the trackpad.
Posted via CB1006-28-14 03:19 AMLike 0 - No they don't. They think they do but they clearly don't. It's just that they accept it and are satisfied with the typing experience, because most of them don't know any better. Evidence for this is chat behavior. Mostly you get nothing more than one line of text, mostly with wrong or even completely missing punctuation. Android and iOS chat far less than BlackBerry keyboard users, just my experience.06-28-14 04:05 AMLike 0
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Posted via CB1006-28-14 07:42 AMLike 0 - 07-01-14 06:57 PMLike 0
- At the last earnings report weeks ago... BlackBerry CEO John Chen announced that for the first time, BlackBerry 10 devices are now outselling the legacy BlackBerry OS7 devices. This amounts to 2.6 million devices sold and a majority of them, 65% of sales, were BlackBerry 10 devices.
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Posted via CB1007-01-14 07:01 PMLike 0 - I got a Q10 last summer and quickly found myself missing the "flick" gesture. The BB10 virtual keyboard is truly great.
If anything, flicking will work even better with the Passport. Sometimes there can be multiple word suggestions on the Z30 keyboard, and when I go to flick I'll get the wrong one. On the Passport there will only be 3 choices, with a flick on the left 3rd, the middle 3rd, or the right 3rd. Should be easy to pick the choice you want.
Posted via CB10 on Z10Thunderbuck likes this.07-01-14 07:48 PMLike 1 - No they don't. They think they do but they clearly don't. It's just that they accept it and are satisfied with the typing experience, because most of them don't know any better. Evidence for this is chat behavior. Mostly you get nothing more than one line of text, mostly with wrong or even completely missing punctuation. Android and iOS chat far less than BlackBerry keyboard users, just my experience.
Posted from my Black Beast Q1007-01-14 08:55 PMLike 0 -
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