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  1. extisis's Avatar
    Ever heard of Steve Jobs and the Blue Box ?

    He hacked the phone system before there were mobile phones

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    The next time people want to gripe about how much BlackBerry sucks...-556.jpg
    09-01-15 09:23 PM
  2. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    how many times in the last WEEK man? forgot who in particular but one guy was really adamant that there's no downside. where is he?
    In my usage, I find none. I consider it a feature.

    Nothing to be scared about if one knows what they are doing.

    My rooted devices are more secure than my stock ones.

    Also, the paradigms on Android and iOS are different. Android folks don't typically root to get free apps.
    09-01-15 09:32 PM
  3. extisis's Avatar
    In my usage, I find none. I consider it a feature.

    Nothing to be scared about if one knows what they are doing.

    My rooted devices are more secure than my stock ones.

    Also, the paradigms on Android and iOS are different. Android folks don't typically root to get free apps.
    i consider it altering your device to add/change features. plenty of friends I've known have (been swayed and eventually) jailbroke/rooted their devices by other techie friends and so really have no idea about the process and what the ramifications of it are. you believe what you want to believe. i don't think i should have to do any altering of my phone in order to feel more "secure than stock". but then again, i don't like nor use android but certainly not for that reason alone.
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    09-01-15 09:42 PM
  4. anon(9353145)'s Avatar
    In my usage, I find none. I consider it a feature.

    Nothing to be scared about if one knows what they are doing.

    My rooted devices are more secure than my stock ones.

    Also, the paradigms on Android and iOS are different. Android folks don't typically root to get free apps.
    Totally, security is in the hands of the user for most use cases. It was incredible to me when the iOS Github/iCloud hack occurred involving Jennifer Lawrence, Kirsten Dunst, etc. While Apple's lack of due diligence was appalling (the hack was a simple brute force script after all), I was amazed that such high profile celebs didn't have 'someone' that managed their personal online security.

    Well, I bet they do now, lol.

    I think most companies just rely on people being lazy about 'opting out' or paying attention in general about their privacy to be honest. People often confuse privacy and security - but I think if you're vigilant about your privacy, the security generally follows, imho.
    09-01-15 09:43 PM
  5. lift's Avatar
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    I think you are lost. This isn't android central. You come to CrackBerry to bash anything about BlackBerry constantly.
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    09-01-15 09:44 PM
  6. lift's Avatar
    Yes, but through mobile devices? I would think there are more fruitful entry points.
    With that type of data ANY entry point would be worthy to foreign adversaries. So stop with the excuses.
    09-01-15 09:48 PM
  7. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    i consider it altering your device to add/change features. plenty of friends I've known have (been swayed and eventually) jailbroke/rooted their devices by other techie friends and so really have no idea about the process and what the ramifications of it are. you believe what you want to believe. i don't think i should have to do any altering of my phone in order to feel more "secure than stock". but then again, i don't like nor use android but certainly not for that reason alone.
    If one can be "swayed" to root/jailbreak, one probably shouldn't. What's the plan? Just because?

    Nah, I want to really, really own my device. I like tinkering, and I have an opportunity to work with some really good devs, so it comes naturally. I also want a truly smart device that manages other pieces of my setup. Rooting a device makes it as close to being made by me as possible.

    Most people don't understand or need that type of control.

    I'm pretty picky, so hey.
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    09-01-15 09:50 PM
  8. lift's Avatar
    If one can be "swayed" to root/jailbreak, one probably shouldn't. What's the plan? Just because?

    Nah, I want to really, really own my device. I like tinkering, and I have an opportunity to work with some really good devs, so it comes naturally. I also want a truly smart device that manages other pieces of my setup. Rooting a device makes it as close to being made by me as possible.

    Most people don't understand or need that type of control.

    I'm pretty picky, so hey.
    Guess you won't be getting the slider then. You won't "own" it so why bother. Right.
    09-01-15 09:53 PM
  9. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    Guess you won't be getting the slider then. You won't "own" it so why bother. Right.
    I think I will. I like diverse devices. I can't root my BlackBerry, WP, iOS or Palm/WebOS devices, but manage to enjoy them all the same.

    I'm not hot about the potential for Android on BB devices, but if possible, I will try one.
    Last edited by Tre Lawrence; 09-01-15 at 10:17 PM.
    09-01-15 10:04 PM
  10. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    Totally, security is in the hands of the user for most use cases. It was incredible to me when the iOS Github/iCloud hack occurred involving Jennifer Lawrence, Kirsten Dunst, etc. While Apple's lack of due diligence was appalling (the hack was a simple brute force script after all), I was amazed that such high profile celebs didn't have 'someone' that managed their personal online security.

    Well, I bet they do now, lol.

    I think most companies just rely on people being lazy about 'opting out' or paying attention in general about their privacy to be honest. People often confuse privacy and security - but I think if you're vigilant about your privacy, the security generally follows, imho.
    Good stuff.

    Folks -- famous and regular -- are remarkably nonchalant about privacy.
    09-01-15 10:06 PM
  11. extisis's Avatar
    If one can be "swayed" to root/jailbreak, one probably shouldn't. What's the plan? Just because?
    ask that to the 100's of thousands of jailbroken iOS users that recently got hacked. bet you a BB10 slider that less than 50% of them even know "the plan". i dislike the popularity of the practice for the same reasons you mentioned.
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    09-01-15 10:09 PM
  12. extisis's Avatar
    I think you are lost. This isn't android central. You come to CrackBerry to bash anything about BlackBerry constantly.
    lol dude. told you- ignore button. it's like a CB fly swatter.
    lift likes this.
    09-01-15 10:14 PM
  13. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    ask that to the 100's of thousands of jailbroken iOS users that recently got hacked. bet you a BB10 slider that less than 50% of them even know "the plan". i dislike the popularity of the practice for the same reasons you mentioned.
    No doubt... it's a strong argument against the practice.

    Keep in mind though that on iOS, it's a different concept. If I understand the report on this current hack that I read earlier today, a big hook is the ability to get free apps. Since iOS is a very walled garden, free apps is a major draw

    This doesn't really exist on the Android front.

    Folks who root on Android mostly do so for other reasons. Privacy is a big one.

    I can't argue with the fact that in this case, stock would be better.
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    09-01-15 10:17 PM
  14. extisis's Avatar
    So again a CIO will say ... Oh Blackberry you now offer an Android device too, whats the added value?
    BB: IT's the BEST security money can buy for Android.
    CIO: But you already offer same level of security via BES for iOS/Android anyway, so why should I buy YOUR devices?
    BB: Well it has a physical keyboard?
    CIO: And what will you do when your competitors begin to RETRY their hand at doing so? Even paying royalty for the patent use of the keyboard YOU make BlackBerry?
    BB: throw the towel in and just use BES12+ client software.
    CIO: lol I see. Well we'll talk.
    boring convo.
    09-01-15 10:17 PM
  15. extisis's Avatar
    No doubt... it's a strong argument against the practice.

    Keep in mind though that on iOS, it's a different concept. If I understand the report on this current hack that I read earlier today, a big hook is the ability to get free apps. Since iOS is a very walled garden, free apps is a major draw

    This doesn't really exist on the Android front.

    Folks who root on Android mostly do so for other reasons. Privacy is a big one.

    I can't argue with the fact that in this case, stock would be better.
    a stock BB10 Slider would do just fine ;-) well without the curved screen of course but i'd be too excited to care at that point.
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    09-01-15 10:18 PM
  16. lift's Avatar
    boring convo.
    Ignore button. LOL.
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    09-01-15 10:19 PM
  17. anon(9353145)'s Avatar
    a stock BB10 Slider would do just fine ;-) well without the curved screen of course but i'd be too excited to care at that point.
    Yeah, nobody seems overly excited about the curved screen, lol. I played around with a Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge and was pretty meh about it. Although to be fair, it makes more sense for the BB Slider from an engineering perspective (pkb). Other than that, I don't see any advantage to it.
    09-01-15 10:36 PM
  18. anon(9353145)'s Avatar
    No doubt... it's a strong argument against the practice.

    Keep in mind though that on iOS, it's a different concept. If I understand the report on this current hack that I read earlier today, a big hook is the ability to get free apps. Since iOS is a very walled garden, free apps is a major draw

    This doesn't really exist on the Android front.

    Folks who root on Android mostly do so for other reasons. Privacy is a big one.

    I can't argue with the fact that in this case, stock would be better.
    App Ops! Be curious to see what impact Marshmallow has on the Cyanogen crowd.
    09-01-15 10:37 PM
  19. xtremeled's Avatar
    User base! That's what all this comes down to. The same reason Macs don't get viruses on any kind of scale. There just isn't any upside to hack a product with a minuscule user base
    09-01-15 11:28 PM
  20. kbz1960's Avatar
    I guess this means if BB releases the slider with android they are real idiots then. Eh?
    09-02-15 12:16 AM
  21. Jake Wright2's Avatar
    Everyone in the Canadian Gov use BlackBerry the **** on those phones is worth way more than on any iPhone.

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    09-02-15 12:34 AM
  22. irweezyy's Avatar
    User base! That's what all this comes down to. The same reason Macs don't get viruses on any kind of scale. There just isn't any upside to hack a product with a minuscule user base
    This logic implies that you believe that a hacker would rather steal $1 from 100 ppl rather that $100 from 1 person.

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    09-02-15 01:07 AM
  23. yessuz's Avatar
    Yes, but through mobile devices? I would think there are more fruitful entry points.
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  24. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    Yeah nobody has any incentive to hack into the communications structures of DOD, intelligence agencies, state department, etc. Phhht...why bother?

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    Well if these organizations would buy a few million devices a quarter... BlackBerry would bother. But they aren't buying, so I don't think BlackBerry will bother making BB10 devices.
    09-02-15 08:06 AM
  25. GLTruesdale's Avatar
    Unless your post is pertaining to "jailbroken devices" it's irrelevant.
    09-02-15 08:08 AM
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