This is my OPINION, The Passport will fail in the UK
- Pls advise for me one thing: without the unlock code, PP will boot with a VDF logo ? And after inserting the code, PP has a clean BB-ish boot ?
If the phone is clear of any fingers from operators, then you're my new friend: just buy another one, unlock it, then give me the bank account no. & i'll give you the money for it. I'm in EU, so no other taxes for me.
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- I'm not saying its a bad phone, it looks pretty good but I love all touch now couldn't go back to Qwerty.
The reason it will fail is, not one of the major Carriers(O2, Vodafone, EE, T-Mobile) are offering it. Sure you can get it through 3rd Parties... Amazon/Carphone Warehouse but realistically how many people will do this?
If it's not on display in the carriers stores then, outside of BlackBerry fans, I can't see them selling a boat load. BlackBerry needs to get this fixed ASAP or UK market share will only get worse.
Posted via CB1010-10-14 08:40 AMLike 0 - While this kind of attitude frustrates me in any situation, not sure "saying they need to change this" means much. Saying they should do "something" is generic and kind of empty. Miuch like the comments last year of "they need to do 'whatever it takes' to get more apps." What should they be doing to solve this very difficult problem?gokulesh likes this.10-10-14 08:45 AMLike 1
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Posted via CB1010-10-14 09:28 AMLike 0 - While this kind of attitude frustrates me in any situation, not sure "saying they need to change this" means much. Saying they should do "something" is generic and kind of empty. Miuch like the comments last year of "they need to do 'whatever it takes' to get more apps." What should they be doing to solve this very difficult problem?
Instead we got "Keep Moving" with allot of people running that didn't even hint at the fact that this wasn't OS7 and this wasn't 2011.
Seriously, the amount of people I know that slate me for owning a BlackBerry because they still think it's like the old Torch, Curve, Bold. I try to explain otherwise, but why should they listen to me when BlackBerry won't even explain it themselves?
Posted via CB1010-10-14 10:06 AMLike 0 - I have an opinion, the "Sold Out " words mean no fail. I don't know why somebody open a new thread for this, it should be merged with other similar and so far (the fact that it is being selling higher than expected) wrong opinions.alpha beta gaga likes this.10-10-14 10:53 AMLike 1
- I can't work out how you managed this purchase.
My local store doesn't have any in stock and the staff knew little about it. On the Vodafone website it is only for businesses and when I rang and spoke to the business team, they said they had no stock but that it's coming in next week....10-10-14 11:13 AMLike 0 - Sorry if I was rude in my answer, but I don't understand how one can be so pesimistic when sales are going so well at the moment. I simply say that figures show that this device is doing very well, even though it is not available globally.10-10-14 11:21 AMLike 0
- I'm not saying its a bad phone, it looks pretty good but I love all touch now couldn't go back to Qwerty.
The reason it will fail is, not one of the major Carriers(O2, Vodafone, EE, T-Mobile) are offering it. Sure you can get it through 3rd Parties... Amazon/Carphone Warehouse but realistically how many people will do this?
If it's not on display in the carriers stores then, outside of BlackBerry fans, I can't see them selling a boat load. BlackBerry needs to get this fixed ASAP or UK market share will only get worse.
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Posted via CB1010-10-14 01:29 PMLike 0 - CPW in central London this week, I went in and there's a Q10 and a Z30 on display so I ask if there's a Passport dummy to look at. He pulls out a battered display model from behind the counter and hands it over, isn't REMOTELY interested in discussing it or trying to sell me the phone.
He said he's sold 4 of them so far, still has one in stock and the other CPW up the road has 2. Tempted to go in and say they should sell it to me for 200 quid because it's junk and clearly nobody else is going to buy it, reckon that would work?
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Is this a common thing? I'm guessing your saying it's been on display and someone vandalised it?
Posted via CB1010-10-14 01:47 PMLike 0 - I can't work out how you managed this purchase.
My local store doesn't have any in stock and the staff knew little about it. On the Vodafone website it is only for businesses and when I rang and spoke to the business team, they said they had no stock but that it's coming in next week....
It was in Doncaster Frenchgate Vodafone.
Posted via CB1010-10-14 02:11 PMLike 0 - 10-10-14 02:22 PMLike 0
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- This is what I'm talking about, BlackBerry needs to change this.
It's all well and good aiming it at business' but at the end of the day, why would Business Men/Woman who aren't Blackberry fans, buy a Blackberry when their friends, family, phone store reps tell them that Blackberry's are no good? They won't. Same Story with Large company's, why would they order 10,000 Blackberry's if all of their employees are screaming for Android/Apple because they have never heard of BB10?
EDIT: To all the guys thinking I'm a BlackBerry hater... I'm not, my last 4 phones have been Blackberry's and I want my next one to be too.
I don't want to see them fail, but unfortunately that's the way I can see them going at the minute
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As for retail, the attitude towards Blackberry, the ignorance and lack of education is shocking. If retailers are telling the public "blackberry is dead" then it will become a self fulfilling prophecy. Like Vodafone only selling the Passport on a business contract, they don't believe the public will be interested in it so they are not going to even try. Why are blackberry even standing for this? And will the same crap occur when the classic is released?10-10-14 03:07 PMLike 0 -
Funnily enough price has gone up to 460 uk pounds...demand is very high for this unconventional phone.
Posted via CB1010-10-14 03:40 PMLike 0 -
I didn't waste my breath explaining why it exceeds the iphone on every distinguishable level.
Posted via CB10D3C0D3R likes this.10-10-14 05:12 PMLike 1 - So just basically walk into a Vodafone store and ask for the passport and pay cash and carry? No contracts or SIM card ?10-10-14 07:18 PMLike 0
- So just basically walk into a Vodafone store and ask for the passport and pay cash and carry? No contracts or SIM card ?10-10-14 07:21 PMLike 0
- I think the Passport is showing that people want their physical keyboards back... it might be a fail, by sales; for some people, but it's a stepping stone to a much bigger stage.10-10-14 08:30 PMLike 0
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So if BBRY doesn't intend to market their devices to consumers and the general consensus is that BYOD has shrunk the so-called enterprise market to the point of irrelevance, what market is there for Passport or any BB device?10-10-14 10:41 PMLike 0 - This is the bit I don't understand. Isn't BYOD the "norm" now in the business world which means that there really isn't an "enterprise" market to speak of any longer? Everywhere I look, business people are opting to carry a single device and most of the time (90%+) it is a personal device which their work IT department has provisioned with work-related apps and email.
So if BBRY doesn't intend to market their devices to consumers and the general consensus is that BYOD has shrunk the so-called enterprise market to the point of irrelevance, what market is there for Passport or any BB device?
Posted via CB1010-11-14 01:04 AMLike 0 - Actually, I agree with the OP.
The Passport is an awesome phone with an awesome OS but it's being sold by a company that's full of as*holes.
I bought my Passport nearly 2 weeks ago from CPW (�529 +�20 SIM) and pretty much immediately it had a battery fault. The battery level would suddenly drop from 90% to 5 or 6 % in a few minutes. The phone would get really hot and I was worried that it was going to catch fire. This happened a couple of times so I called CPW and they weren't familiar with the device so their answer was to return it and swap it out as it was obviously defective.
I thought, "OK, I can do that but why not contact BB support?"
Guess what, there's no support number in the UK. They suggest that I have to ask in forums like Crackberry and rely on the kindness of other users to sort out my problems!
I emailed them for help, week later, still no reply.
I tweeted them, still no reply.
Reluctantly I took it back to CPW and they laughed and said sarcastically "wow, another faulty Blackberry" and just refunded me.
As BB are VERY fussy about honouring warranties in the UK, I emailed them and asked EXACTLY who their retailers were in the UK so I could be safe and buy authorised, warrantied product. No reply.
I called them in Slough (head office) 6 times. On 5 occasions I was put through to voice mail, I left a message and not one of them has had the decency to even call back.
On the last occasion, I was put through to some chap in 'procurement' who said that the ONLY authorised retailers were Selfridges, CPW, Amazon, Unlocked Mobiles and Expansys, and that if you buy a Passport anywhere else, BB will not warranty it, so you'll have to rely on the company you bought it from to take care of the warranty! (I'm looking at you mobilephonesdirect!)
So, what if you're brave and actually buy direct from the BB store? Well, if it goes wrong, where do you get help? Their first answer is always "ask your carrier". If you say "I didn't buy from a carrier", they are totally stumped but quickly say, "try the support forums".
I honestly think that a company that behaves like this needs to fail. They have great product and always have had great product, but are a bunch of arrogant as*holes who have always been arrogant as*holes.
As for me, I love my Z30. When it fails, I'll throw it in the bin and move on to iOS or Android where they aren't such a bunch of cu*ts.Last edited by HomeyJay; 10-11-14 at 04:28 AM.
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