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  1. bhrgvr's Avatar
    you don't expect BB to create a phone specifically for India, because one or two operators made bad choices with their LTE technology?
    I of course blame the operators to an extent. However other major handset manufacturers put LTE chips which could work all over the world. Why not BlackBerry?

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    04-24-15 06:34 AM
  2. bhrgvr's Avatar
    I am upset with both my carrier and BlackBerry. However I have come to terms with it. No more rants.

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    04-24-15 06:38 AM
  3. thymaster's Avatar
    It's not blackberry fault. You have to understand that it's your carrier that made the bad choice to go with TD-LTE which is a technology design by communist owned China Mobile. BlackBerry never penetrated into the Chinese market to ever get involved in the TD-LTE technology.

    Apple is big in China so they have a big enough demand to produce a difference iPhone with TD-LTE chip specific in them. If you buy an iPhone from China then vice versa it will not work anywhere else around the world except China and India airtel TD-LTE only.

    I now know that this is not going to work. Disappointed that BlackBerry sold a phone in India without doing the ground work. Agreed that most of India does not have 4G but if you are going to sell at least make it future proof!!! Most of the country will be 4G enabled in a couple of years. If Apple can do it with the 5C why not BlackBerry, is my concern.

    With the company moving towards fulfilling security needs for the world with their end to end offering, having a 4G chip for across the world in the phone should have done it a world of good. The top end phone from BlackBerry released in 2014 does not have 4G !!! This makes BlackBerry look ancient and not adapting to the changing technology.

    End of rant

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    04-24-15 07:02 AM
  4. bhrgvr's Avatar
    It's not blackberry fault. You have to understand that it's your carrier that made the bad choice to go with TD-LTE which is a technology design by communist owned China Mobile. BlackBerry never penetrated into the Chinese market to ever get involved in the TD-LTE technology.

    Apple is big in China so they have a big enough demand to produce a difference iPhone with TD-LTE chip specific in them. If you buy an iPhone from China then vice versa it will not work anywhere else around the world except China and India airtel TD-LTE only.





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    Point is valid... completely agree with you.
    What about other Android manufacturers? If we take a 4G phone out from India to the US... will 4G work?
    I am not sure but I am assuming that all manufacturers put in a multiband/technology chip so it can work everywhere else.
    04-24-15 08:05 AM
  5. guinnsquirrel's Avatar
    Are you using a 4g enabled SIM?

    BlackBerry Passport, UK
    04-24-15 08:09 AM
  6. bhrgvr's Avatar
    Are you using a 4g enabled SIM?

    BlackBerry Passport, UK
    yup... I am using a 4G enabled SIM. It will not work because of the technology my carrier uses. China uses that technology and is not used by any other carrier around the world
    04-24-15 08:29 AM
  7. graxyq's Avatar
    I have the same issue with Airtel Bangalore, my Sim is 4g, but only 3g works on my phone. Will be interested to know if any other carrier in India has 4g compatible with BlackBerry passport.

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    04-24-15 10:43 AM
  8. thymaster's Avatar
    Yes all 4G HSPA will work worldwide. Just the new handset with 4G LTE is tricky because you have to find out if it's TD or FD LTE.

    Unfortunately there is no phone that can support both type of LTE even if they have matching frequency. But I believe China is working on a single chip that works cross platform LTE. Not sure when it be commercially available.

    Point is valid... completely agree with you.
    What about other Android manufacturers? If we take a 4G phone out from India to the US... will 4G work?
    I am not sure but I am assuming that all manufacturers put in a multiband/technology chip so it can work everywhere else.


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    04-24-15 11:15 AM
  9. Suraj Jadhav's Avatar
    Ok... Thurask... you were right.
    I got a new sim and did a manual scan...


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    I now know that this is not going to work. Disappointed that BlackBerry sold a phone in India without doing the ground work. Agreed that most of India does not have 4G but if you are going to sell at least make it future proof!!! Most of the country will be 4G enabled in a couple of years. If Apple can do it with the 5C why not BlackBerry, is my concern.

    With the company moving towards fulfilling security needs for the world with their end to end offering, having a 4G chip for across the world in the phone should have done it a world of good. The top end phone from BlackBerry released in 2014 does not have 4G !!! This makes BlackBerry look ancient and not adapting to the changing technology.

    End of rant

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    It isn't BlackBerry's fault. It is purely Government Of India fault. The frequencies are auctioned by GOI and Service Providers need to just follow suit.

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    04-24-15 01:18 PM
  10. thymaster's Avatar
    There's probably politics in play too. I wonder if this be the reason why all the other Indian carriers haven't announced any LTE plans yet because they are holding off on FDD auctions.

    It isn't BlackBerry's fault. It is purely Government Of India fault. The frequencies are auctioned by GOI and Service Providers need to just follow suit.

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    04-24-15 01:36 PM
  11. Suraj Jadhav's Avatar
    It is less of politics and more of internal security...if said spectrum is being used by government agencies such as Army etc then it can not be opened up for public...obviously we can't prove this or else they will have to kill us....

    Have a read - this is how fragmented our telecom future looks...

    http://www.telecomcircle.com/2014/05/lte-in-india/
    https://www.thehdtimes.com/4g-lte-status-in-india/

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    04-24-15 02:03 PM
  12. bhrgvr's Avatar
    Yes all 4G HSPA will work worldwide. Just the new handset with 4G LTE is tricky because you have to find out if it's TD or FD LTE.

    Unfortunately there is no phone that can support both type of LTE even if they have matching frequency. But I believe China is working on a single chip that works cross platform LTE. Not sure when it be commercially available.





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    So does this mean that TD-LTE uses a different band within the FD-LTE band or is the govt being pushed by the Chinese manufacturers to use this band.

    I would hate to think that as a possibility

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    04-24-15 02:38 PM
  13. bhrgvr's Avatar
    There's probably politics in play too. I wonder if this be the reason why all the other Indian carriers haven't announced any LTE plans yet because they are holding off on FDD auctions.
    I really do hope that we get FDD-LTE. Will do a lot of us good.

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    04-24-15 02:51 PM
  14. bhrgvr's Avatar
    It is less of politics and more of internal security...if said spectrum is being used by government agencies such as Army etc then it can not be opened up for public...obviously we can't prove this or else they will have to kill us....

    Have a read - this is how fragmented our telecom future looks...

    http://www.telecomcircle.com/2014/05/lte-in-india/
    https://www.thehdtimes.com/4g-lte-status-in-india/

    Posted via CB10
    Suraj... I think the Indian market is still not mature enough. The current dispensation which ruled earlier may have begun on the right foot, but right now it looks like a complete mess to me and now I don't just blame the carriers... the present or previous govt is also to blame. God help us sort this mess out.

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    04-24-15 02:55 PM
  15. yeo123's Avatar
    BlackBerry to look into market potential, if it is need for business ,no choice the device has to designed FD LTE for moderate the china and India markets. Do not leave a whole forest for a tree!!!

    BlackBerry Z10/STL100-2
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    05-13-15 09:29 AM
  16. bhrgvr's Avatar
    BlackBerry to look into market potential, if it is need for business ,no choice the device has to designed FD LTE for moderate the china and India markets. Do not leave a whole forest for a tree!!!

    BlackBerry Z10/STL100-2
    I totally agree with you

    Posted via CB10
    05-14-15 12:28 AM
  17. Suraj Jadhav's Avatar
    Doesn't work this way with BlackBerry...they don't care...

    Posted via CB10
    05-27-15 01:25 PM
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