1. S1LENTKILLER's Avatar
    I want to know if there's any trick that can help me run android apps more efficiently without crashing.

    Posted via CB10
    07-15-19 10:41 PM
  2. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    Not really... just keep in mind that the Passport is running Android 4.3, so any app needs to support that version.
    07-16-19 07:22 AM
  3. joeldf's Avatar
    Any app that is running in an old 4.3 (from 2013) runtime, that itself is running on top of another OS, and has to run all its calls through that sandboxed emulator to the main BB10 OS on hardware from 2014, is not going to run efficiently.
    07-16-19 09:20 AM
  4. Zeddepher's Avatar
    It can't be done because Android is inherently bullshat. I only ever run Android apps when the Passport is on charge.
    07-16-19 04:28 PM
  5. wbalogh's Avatar
    There is a discussion on the forum about it, you should download ghost commander, get into some expert mode to see the cool stuff and then switch on hardware acceleration or something if I remember correctly. Search ghost commander, you'll likely find the infos.

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    07-16-19 04:34 PM
  6. brookie229's Avatar
    I want to know if there's any trick that can help me run android apps more efficiently without crashing.

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    My biggest trick is to limit the device to 10-15 apps none of which are power hungry. Good luck with that!

    Posted via CB10
    07-16-19 04:36 PM
  7. Zeddepher's Avatar
    My biggest trick is to limit the device to 10-15 apps none of which are power hungry. Good luck with that!

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    That made me think about my app count. According to AppNinja, I've currently got 457 installed.
    07-16-19 04:51 PM
  8. joeldf's Avatar
    There is a discussion on the forum about it, you should download ghost commander, get into some expert mode to see the cool stuff and then switch on hardware acceleration or something if I remember correctly. Search ghost commander, you'll likely find the infos.

    Posted via CB10
    "Development options" is what you're talking about. You can try the tricks of typical android - reduce the animation scale, limit background processes, force GPU rendering...

    But none of those really do much. The GPU thing is really for a "second drawing", as the main screen is accelerated already.
    07-16-19 04:58 PM
  9. brookie229's Avatar
    That made me think about my app count. According to AppNinja, I've currently got 457 installed.
    Wow - how many android? AppNinja says I have 132 with 12 android. Of course many of those in the count are default BB10 apps.
    07-16-19 04:59 PM
  10. Zeddepher's Avatar
    Wow - how many android? AppNinja says I have 132 with 12 android. Of course many of those in the count are default BB10 apps.
    44 Android apps
    07-16-19 05:00 PM
  11. brookie229's Avatar
    44 Android apps
    Momma mia!
    07-16-19 05:07 PM
  12. conite's Avatar
    44 Android apps
    Ouch!

    Rule of thumb is 10-15 apps max on pre-Passport, and 20-25 apps max on Passport.
    07-16-19 05:53 PM
  13. joeldf's Avatar
    I had 40-something android apps on my Z10 for a while. Never really affected anything. A lot of smaller utility type apps like Ghost Commander, Taskmanager, Wi-Fi analyzer, LTE Discovery...
    07-16-19 09:27 PM
  14. John Albert's Avatar
    Glad to see people still using BB10
    07-16-19 09:30 PM
  15. Zeddepher's Avatar
    Ouch!

    Rule of thumb is 10-15 apps max on pre-Passport, and 20-25 apps max on Passport.
    This is my SE and it runs without any fuss. I did have problems with my OG Passport, however.
    07-17-19 02:59 AM
  16. mikael11's Avatar
    I had 40-something android apps on my Z10 for a while. Never really affected anything. A lot of smaller utility type apps like Ghost Commander, Taskmanager, Wi-Fi analyzer, LTE Discovery...
    I second that. Checked with app ninja, have 64. Have been some of them I have get rid of as they behaved badly. Otherwise no problem.
    07-17-19 04:36 AM
  17. wbalogh's Avatar
    "Development options" is what you're talking about. You can try the tricks of typical android - reduce the animation scale, limit background processes, force GPU rendering...

    But none of those really do much. The GPU thing is really for a "second drawing", as the main screen is accelerated already.
    Thanks! It was late and I was tired.

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    07-17-19 07:55 AM
  18. JECE's Avatar
    This is my SE and it runs without any fuss. I did have problems with my OG Passport, however.
    For me it was/is the opposite. Loaded a full backup of one onto the other, though. That was probably a grave mistake.
    07-17-19 08:27 AM
  19. Shuswap's Avatar
    Some Android apps definitely do burn through your battery. Skype used to draw down my Q10 at nearly 10% an hour. When I uninstalled it, battery usage went back to normal.

    I've found that if I avoid Android apps that maintain a constant internet connection, they run well and are not extremely hard on battery life.
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    07-17-19 08:37 AM
  20. brookie229's Avatar
    I've found that if I avoid Android apps that maintain a constant internet connection, they run well and are not extremely hard on battery life.
    Exactly.
    07-17-19 09:24 AM
  21. SteinwayTransitCorp's Avatar
    Most apps will run fine, I use a Passport as my daily driver. Most App writers will support the older run time. What they do is allow the app to emulate a newer version of run time. This is an old windows trick. It works for a while, the other thing is apps that need to be secure may not run, this is more a issue with security than run time.
    07-17-19 03:29 PM
  22. SteinwayTransitCorp's Avatar
    It also depends on what he runs......I use many that run fine. What you have to get used too is it may open much slower than it should. But once opened they tend to run fine.
    07-17-19 03:30 PM
  23. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    Most apps will run fine, I use a Passport as my daily driver. Most App writers will support the older run time. What they do is allow the app to emulate a newer version of run time. This is an old windows trick. It works for a while, the other thing is apps that need to be secure may not run, this is more a issue with security than run time.
    It's actually to the point where you usually have to find an older no longer supported version of an app for it to run on the Android Runtime that BB10 supports. But if it's an app that requires server services or newer security (last five years)... the odds of it work go down. Today's Android Developer have good reasons not to support Android 4.3, so most do not.
    07-22-19 11:32 AM

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