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  1. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    Of course someone said they were chick magnets... so if that's true, they could be priceless.
    @Chuck Finley69 you had a chance to pull yours out in the "club" yet? Do the ladies on the stage notice you more?
    01-12-21 10:44 AM
  2. the_boon's Avatar
    Yes, but what do they actually sell for?
    I would have to place all of them on my watch list to know for sure, but I do see bids going for upwards of $200 - $300.
    There is the possibility of some winning bidders being new accounts with no feedback that don't end up paying, but in that case it just gets relisted and then sold.

    If I could summarize:

    PP SE alone: ~$200

    PP SE w/box, accessories: ~$250-$300
    01-12-21 10:46 AM
  3. conite's Avatar
    I would have to place all of them on my watch list to know for sure, but I do see bids going for upwards of $200 - $300.
    There is the possibility of some winning bidders being new accounts with no feedback that don't end up paying, but in that case it just gets relisted and then sold.

    If I could summarize:

    PP SE alone: ~$200

    PP SE w/box, accessories: ~$250-$300
    I guess there's no accounting for crazy people.

    What a crazy price for something you put on a bookshelf.
    01-12-21 10:47 AM
  4. SteinwayTransitCorp's Avatar
    well its not that bad, the phone does very well if you realize it does have major limitations. Most everything will work if you forget the App shortcut and go direct than add the link to your home screen. This will look like and app but use the web version.
    01-12-21 10:50 AM
  5. the_boon's Avatar
    I guess there's no accounting for crazy people.

    What a crazy price for something you put on a bookshelf.
    In the US it's gonna be tough to use it for anything other than a Wi-Fi e-mail/typing machine in a year from now.

    Starting in 2022 we may see a ton of them being dumped on eBay as "for parts" if the users didn't disable BB Protect, wipe and then set them up without BB ID before the shutdown.

    I think most of them won't see it coming, it's not like they'll get a notification from BB ltd telling them to do the above three steps a week before shutdown.
    01-12-21 10:51 AM
  6. SteinwayTransitCorp's Avatar
    Chuck is always a chick magnet..............just ask Homer....................Do'h
    Attached Thumbnails Fair price for a silver Passport that I want to sell-dont-do-.jpg   Fair price for a silver Passport that I want to sell-th.gif  
    01-12-21 10:52 AM
  7. conite's Avatar
    well its not that bad, the phone does very well if you realize it does have major limitations. Most everything will work if you forget the App shortcut and go direct than add the link to your home screen. This will look like and app but use the web version.
    The phone will be completely useless when 3G is gone in the US.
    01-12-21 10:52 AM
  8. brookie229's Avatar
    it's not like they'll get a notification from BB ltd telling them to do the above three steps a week before shutdown.
    Not so sure about that. BB, has in the past, made consumers aware beforehand of major changes/problems. I would not be surprised to see a statement of warning to some degree.
    01-12-21 11:36 AM
  9. saint300's Avatar
    I wish I were a collector; but unfortunately I cannot be. So, while the passport SE is one of the best and most interesting smartphones I have ever had, I simply had to move on since I need my phone to ease my everyday life today, and it was not so easy with BB10. Having said that, I still believe that BB10 was the best OS ever and it's a shame so much went so wrong.

    At the end of the day I wish I was just like our good friend Chuck here, and be able to collect devices I like for as little as he has done! Congrats to that!!
    01-12-21 11:37 AM
  10. saint300's Avatar
    On another note, here's a totally different story that maybe is relevant to what we are discussing here; maybe not.

    Three years ago I bought a classic little mid-70's Fiat 126. Not really popular in the US, although there's some youtube videos that record a bunch of happy US owners. Anyway, mine was the interim model between the 1st and 2nd series, with chrome bumpers and all that cool stuff; but it needed a complete restoration. During these last three years I drove the car only four times. Then it spent its time at the workshop undergoing complete mechanical and electrical restoration. And in January 2020 the time came for the final stage, full body restoration....And then Covid-19 happened and shuttered everything; no more funds for the remaining restoration, and although I kept trying to find a way to do this, all failed....

    In the end, I set it up for sale on a local platform, I asked for a very fair price (knowing I would be losing a couple of thousand euros in the process) and I sold it in less than a week. Am I happy? No, I am not. At the same time I know I had to be relevant with what's happening today....

    And to go back to the OP, I would say that if he can get right now anything close to 200 euros, it will be a good deal; at the same time, anything between 150 and 200 euros, will still be good for a great smartphone that cannot have the longevity of a 50 year old classic car, even if it is a humble little Fiat 126.

    I rest my case.
    01-12-21 12:08 PM
  11. SteinwayTransitCorp's Avatar
    no it does connect to 4G LTE with no issues and will stay connected to it
    01-12-21 03:59 PM
  12. conite's Avatar
    no it does connect to 4G LTE with no issues and will stay connected to it
    As explained, 4G/LTE is not the same thing as VoLTE. The latter is what is required to use the 4G/LTE network for voice.
    01-12-21 04:02 PM
  13. SteinwayTransitCorp's Avatar
    Yes on the AT&T network the phone will work at least until 2022-23. Not my words theirs, The passport will look for 3G when possible but once the carrier signal is gone it will only look to 4G/Lte . VoLTE is not required. CDMA phones will not.
    01-12-21 04:06 PM
  14. conite's Avatar
    Yes on the AT&T network the phone will work at least until 2022-23. Not my words theirs, The passport will look for 3G when possible but once the carrier signal is gone it will only look to 4G/Lte . VoLTE is not required. CDMA phones will not.
    VoLTE is required for all voice over 4G/LTE. Period. That's the only technology that exists. There is nothing else.

    That's what VoLTE means - Voice over LTE.

    Currently there are only 3 ways to place a call - via CDMA, GSM, or VoLTE.
    01-12-21 04:08 PM
  15. SteinwayTransitCorp's Avatar
    VoLTE as HD is not required unless the phone can connect to VoLTE as HD as well. Right now if I turn on my Passport the screen will show 4G LTE this will not change. Also AT&T sent out a signal to phones about 2 months ago that would send a message that the phone is not compatible. No message all ok.
    01-12-21 04:12 PM
  16. conite's Avatar
    VoLTE as HD is not required unless the phone can connect to VoLTE as HD as well. Right now if I turn on my Passport the screen will show 4G LTE this will not change. Also AT&T sent out a signal to phones about 2 months ago that would send a message that the phone is not compatible. No message all ok.
    All that may mean is that the Passport will in fact support AT&T's VoLTE. But there is no other way to make a call over 4G/LTE without it.
    01-12-21 04:16 PM
  17. SteinwayTransitCorp's Avatar
    These phones will still work on our network after we phase out 3G in February 2022
    Samsung
    • Galaxy A71 5G (SMA716U1)
    • Galaxy A50 (SM-A505U1,
    SM-A505A)
    • Galaxy A51 5G (SMA516U, SM-A516U1)
    • Galaxy A51 (SM-A515U,
    SM-A515U1)
    • Galaxy A21 SE (SMA215U1)
    • Galaxy A11 (SM-A115AP,
    SM-A115U1)
    • Galaxy A10e (A102U,
    A102UC, SM-A102U1)
    • Galaxy A6 (SM-A600A,
    SM-A600AZ)
    • Galaxy A01 (SM-015A,
    SM-A015U1)
    • Galaxy Express Prime 3
    (J337A)
    • Galaxy Express Prime 2/J2
    (J327A)
    • Galaxy Express Prime/J3
    (J320A)
    • Galaxy Express 3 (J120A)
    • Galaxy Fold (F900U,
    F900U1)
    • Galaxy J7 (J727A, J737A)
    • Galaxy J2 Dash (J260A)
    • Galaxy J2 Pure (J260AZ)
    • Galaxy Note20 5G (SMN981U, SM-N981U1)
    • Galaxy Note20 Ultra 5G
    (SM-N986U, SM-N986U1)
    • Galaxy Note10 (N970U,
    N970U1)
    • Galaxy Note10+ (N975U,
    N975U1)
    • Galaxy Note10+ 5G
    (N976U)
    • Galaxy Note9 (N960U,
    N960U1)
    • Galaxy Note8 (N950U)
    • Galaxy Note5 (N920A)
    • Galaxy Note Edge (N915A)
    • Galaxy Note4 (N910A)
    • Galaxy S20 5G (G981U,
    G981U1)
    • Galaxy S20+ 5G (G986U,
    G986U1)
    • Galaxy S20 FE (SM-G781U,
    SM-G781U1)
    • Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G
    (G988U, G988U1)
    • Galaxy S10 (G973U,
    G973UC, G973U1)
    • Galaxy S10 5G (G977U)
    • Galaxy S10+ (G975U,
    G975U1)
    • Galaxy S10e (G970U,
    G970U1)
    • Galaxy S10 Lite (SMG770U1)
    • Galaxy S9 (G960U,
    G960U1)
    • Galaxy S9+ (G965U,
    G964U1)
    • Galaxy S8 (G950U)
    • Galaxy S8 Active (G892A)
    • Galaxy S8+ (G955U)
    • Galaxy S7 Edge (G935A)
    • Galaxy S7 (G930A)
    • Galaxy S7 Active (G891A)
    • Galaxy S6 Edge Plus
    (G928A)
    • Galaxy S6 Edge (G925A)
    • Galaxy S6 (G920A)
    • Galaxy S6 Active (G890A)
    • Galaxy S5 (G900A)
    • Galaxy S5 Active (G870A)
    • Galaxy S5 Mini (G800A)
    • Galaxy S4 Mini (i257)
    • Galaxy XCover FieldPro
    (G889A)
    • Galaxy Z flip 5G (SMF707U, SM-F707U1)
    • Galaxy Z Flip (SMF700U/DS, F700U1)
    • Galaxy Z Fold2 5G (SMF916U, SM-F916U1)
    Apple
    iPhone 6 and newer
    Last updated: December 17, 2020
    These phones will still work on our network after we phase out 3G in February 2022
    Last updated: December 17, 2020
    LG
    • Arena 2/Neon Plus (LM-X320APM/AM8)
    • Escape Plus (X320CM)
    • Escape2 (H443)
    • Classic Flip (L125DL)
    • G8X ThinQ (LM-G850UM)
    • G8 ThinQ (LM-G820UM)
    • G7 (G710ULM)
    • G7 ThinQ (LM-G710ULM)
    • G6 (H871S, H871)
    • G5 (H820)
    • G4 (H810)
    • G3 (D850)
    • G3 Vigor (D725)
    • G Flex 2 (H950)
    • G Vista 2 (H740)
    • G Vista (D631)
    • Harmony 3 (X420CM)
    • Journey (L322DL)
    • K40 (LM-X420AS)
    • K20 (M255)
    • K10 (K425)
    • K51 (LM-K500QM)
    • Phoenix Plus (LM-X410AS)
    • Phoenix 4 (LM-X210APM)
    • Phoenix 3 (M150)
    • Phoenix 2 (K371)
    • Premier Pro LTE (LML414DL, LML413DL)
    • Premier Pro Plus (L455D)
    • Prime 2 (LM-X320AA)
    • Q70 (LM-Q620QM)
    • Rebel 4 (LML211BL)
    • Reflect (L555DL )
    • Solo LTE (L423DL)
    • Stylo 5 (LM-Q720CS, L722D)
    • Stylo 5+ (LM-Q720AM)
    • Stylo 4 (LML713DL)
    • Stylo 4+ (LM-Q710WA)
    • V40 ThinQ (LM-V405UA)
    • V35 (LM-V350ULM)
    • V35 ThinQ (LM-V350AWM)
    • V30 (H931)
    • V20 (H910)
    • V10 (H900)
    • Xpression Plus 3 (LM-K400AKR)
    • Xpression Plus 2 (LM-X420AS8)
    • X Venture (H700)
    Motorola
    • One Action (XT2013-4)
    • E (XT2052-1)
    • E6 (XT2005-5)
    • e5 Cruise (XT1921-2)
    • E5 Play (XT1921-2A, XT1921-2)
    • e5 Supra (XT1924-6)
    • E6 (XT2005-5)
    • Edge (XT2063-2)
    • G Fast (XT2045-3)
    • G Power (XT2041-4, XT1955-5)
    • G Stylus (XT2043-4, XT2115-1)
    • G Pro (XT2043-8)
    • G7 (XT1962-1)
    • G7 Play (XT1952-4)
    • G7 Plus (XT1965-T)
    • G7 Supra (XT1955-5)
    • g6 Forge (XT1922)
    • g6 Play (XT1922-9)
    • One 5G (XT2075-2)
    • Razr 5G (XT2071-3)
    • Razr ((XT2071-2)
    • Z4 (XT1980-3)
    • Z2 Force Edition (XT1789)
    Google
    • Pixel 5 (GD1YQ)
    • Pixel 4a 5G (G025E)
    • Pixel 4a
    • Pixel 4XL
    • Pixel 4
    • Pixel 3a
    • Pixel 3a XL
    • Pixel 3 XL
    • Pixel 3
    • Pixel 2XL
    • Pixel 2
    These phones will still work on our network after we phase out 3G in February 2022
    Alcatel
    • A1X (A508DL)
    • A1 (A507DL)
    • Go Flip 3 (A406DL)
    • idealXTRA (5059R)
    • idealXCITE/ CameoX (5044R)
    • IDEAL (4060A)
    • INSIGHT (5005RC)
    • OneTouch Allura (5056O)
    • ONYX (5008R)
    • QUICKFLIP™ (4044C)
    • SMARTFLIP (4052R, 4052C)
    • TETRA (5041C, 5041CC)
    • T1 Lite (T770B)
    • T1 Pro (T799B)
    Essential
    • PH 1
    AT&T
    • AXIA (QS5509A)
    • Calypso (318AA)
    • Cingular Flip 2 (4044O)
    • Cingular Flip (Q28A)
    • Maestro (U202AA)
    • Radiant Core (U304AA)
    • Radiant Max (U705AA)
    BlackBerry
    • KEYone (BBB100-1) • Priv (STV100-1)
    HTC
    • Desire 626 (0PM9120)
    • Desire EYE (0PFH100)
    • One A9 (2PQ912

    BlackBerry
    • KEYone (BBB100-1) • Priv (STV100-1)•PassPort(SQW100-4)


    Odd the Keytwo is not included in the AT&T list
    01-12-21 04:19 PM
  18. SteinwayTransitCorp's Avatar
    I just posted the AT&T list, strangely the KeyTwo did not make the list but the Passport and Priv did.

    List is waiting approval
    01-12-21 04:20 PM
  19. conite's Avatar
    I just posted the AT&T list, strangely the KeyTwo did not make the list but the Passport and Priv did.
    The KEY² did not have an AT&T-branded variant.

    But the Priv had one, and the Passport has an AT&T model (SQW100-3).
    01-12-21 04:21 PM
  20. SteinwayTransitCorp's Avatar
    that's what I said..........................LOL
    01-12-21 04:27 PM
  21. conite's Avatar
    that's what I said..........................LOL
    Huh?
    01-12-21 04:28 PM
  22. SteinwayTransitCorp's Avatar
    one behind, I answered my own answer
    01-12-21 04:33 PM
  23. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    VoLTE is required for all voice over 4G/LTE. Period. That's the only technology that exists. There is nothing else.

    That's what VoLTE means - Voice over LTE.

    Currently there are only 3 ways to place a call - via CDMA, GSM, or VoLTE.
    Some countries will still have 2G GSM to fall back on when those markets end 3G.... but that won't be the case in the US. But between the ending of 3G and BlackBerry shutting down servers, using a Passport beyond 2022 is going to be "hardcore".

    Be interesting to see his list, and if other 2014 phones are on it as well.... as it seemed 2015/2016 was the technology change point.
    01-12-21 04:36 PM
  24. SteinwayTransitCorp's Avatar
    I have posted the list waiting on approval to show
    01-12-21 04:48 PM
  25. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    Of course someone said they were chick magnets... so if that's true, they could be priceless.
    @Chuck Finley69 you had a chance to pull yours out in the "club" yet? Do the ladies on the stage notice you more?
    I was going to 55+ Bingo at the shopping center down the street, but was carded and denied access since only 50 now. The white haired chick at the door said it was really cool looking and could I spare a cigarette? When I told her, I don’t smoke, convo ended. Not sure if she was playing me...
    brookie229 likes this.
    01-12-21 05:19 PM
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