- I understand that, but major difference is not about the 0.2Ghz speed. The most significant improvement on 801 is the power management system where it consumes significant less power and much battery friendly.
BlackBerry Z10 10.2.1.3175SenorPistachio likes this.08-07-14 03:33 AMLike 1 - Source? I believe it has a higher power envelope. Clock speed isn't free and usually requires an increase to voltage08-07-14 07:40 PMLike 0
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- Some basic benchmarking stats.... but these don't tell the whole story. Like the 805 might be very good extending battery life...
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Passport is going to look different and it will have the physical / virtual interface which is different.... But Flagship Specs, it does not have.
Now some here will say it doesn't need them. Sometimes need has nothing to do with it.08-08-14 07:12 AMLike 0 - Some basic benchmarking stats.... but these don't tell the whole story. Like the 805 might be very good extending battery life...
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Passport is going to look different and it will have the physical / virtual interface which is different.... But Flagship Specs, it does not have.
Now some here will say it doesn't need them. Sometimes need has nothing to do with it.
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Posted via CrackBerry App08-08-14 09:38 AMLike 0 - You could be right. I don't know exactly when the 801 became readily available, but it starts to show up in media coverage this year, so I'm guessing either very late 2013 or early 2014. That however does not explain the apparent decision to tune down the 800. Battery life does, though they could have just gone further then and make another Z30-like slug.
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They dropped the core clock speed to save on battery so that they didn't need to compromise on the screen - because they sure as hell didn't compromise there!
I think you'll find that the passport will get around the same battery performance as or just slightly better than the Z30. The Z30 has a much slower processor and GPU; and the screen is designed and software-inhibited to ensure that it doesn't use much battery. The Z30 has fantastic battery life and I think any device will struggle to be much better without compromise in some way.08-08-14 09:52 AMLike 0 - I'm not sure what you mean by "slug"?
They dropped the core clock speed to save on battery so that they didn't need to compromise on the screen - because they sure as hell didn't compromise there!
I think you'll find that the passport will get around the same battery performance as or just slightly better than the Z30. The Z30 has a much slower processor and GPU; and the screen is designed and software-inhibited to ensure that it doesn't use much battery. The Z30 has fantastic battery life and I think any device will struggle to be much better without compromise in some way.
Also, to preempt any Android defenders that may disagree on my assessment of that OS...i am an Android user as well. This was posted from an LG G2 running the latest KitKat release and I've had several Android devices over the years, including devices dating back to Froyo.
Posted via CrackBerry App08-08-14 10:58 AMLike 0 - By "slug" I mean that it is as slow as a slug. Android app performance on the Z30 is the equivalent of Android devices from 2011. Whether we like it or not, Android is a critical part of BB10, and that means we need horsepower to run it well. Android is hardly functional on low-spec devices. That's why I'm not thrilled that Blackberry is going with a reduced clock speed or a lesser chip.
Also, to preempt any Android defenders that may disagree on my assessment of that OS...i am an Android user as well. This was posted from an LG G2 running the latest KitKat release and I've had several Android devices over the years, including devices dating back to Froyo.
Posted via CrackBerry App08-08-14 11:08 AMLike 0 - By "slug" I mean that it is as slow as a slug. Android app performance on the Z30 is the equivalent of Android devices from 2011. Whether we like it or not, Android is a critical part of BB10, and that means we need horsepower to run it well. Android is hardly functional on low-spec devices. That's why I'm not thrilled that Blackberry is going with a reduced clock speed or a lesser chip.
Also, to preempt any Android defenders that may disagree on my assessment of that OS...i am an Android user as well. This was posted from an LG G2 running the latest KitKat release and I've had several Android devices over the years, including devices dating back to Froyo.
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If that was an attempt at being funny, or clever, or even snarky, it failed miserably. Sorry.
For the record I've used Blackberry as my primary device since 2005-ish or so...last few months I've been without one and exclusively on Android only because of the fact I wanted to offload my Z30 while I could still sell it for a decent price.
Posted via CrackBerry AppMoopusmaximus likes this.08-08-14 11:56 AMLike 1 - 08-08-14 12:05 PMLike 0
- This I can understand actually. If you truly want the device to be near flawless, it takes a lot of time and effort to test it thoroughly and then a few months to manufacture it all. Now, if the Passport hits the market and it has issues despite having a year to work on it with a finalized design, well, that would be really lame.08-08-14 12:29 PMLike 0
- This I can understand actually. If you truly want the device to be near flawless, it takes a lot of time and effort to test it thoroughly and then a few months to manufacture it all. Now, if the Passport hits the market and it has issues despite having a year to work on it with a finalized design, well, that would be really lame.
Most issues are software related, and the software is always a moving target. They designed this thing, put it on a back burner when the launch crashed and burned, and Chen brought it back out because it was so different and he saw an opportunity for some quick cash. But he left everything as is because it would help keep cost down to not upgrade everything to the top of the line hardware.
The Passport isn't gong to be anymore "flawless" than the iPhone 6 will be. It is meant to bring in revenues, not marketshare.dejanh likes this.08-08-14 03:20 PMLike 1 - You mean issues like the STL-100-1 and battery calibration......
Most issues are software related, and the software is always a moving target. They designed this thing, put it on a back burner when the launch crashed and burned, and Chen brought it back out because it was so different and he saw an opportunity for some quick cash. But he left everything as is because it would help keep cost down to not upgrade everything to the top of the line hardware.
The Passport isn't gong to be anymore "flawless" than the iPhone 6 will be. It is meant to bring in revenues, not marketshare.08-08-14 05:33 PMLike 0 - Well as far as I know the Apple A7 has two cores clocked at 1.3GHz and runs pretty decent. So why not downclock an 800 as well to conserve battery life if performance is still up to snuff from a user experience standpoint? After all BB10 isn't Android.Daveensannie likes this.08-09-14 04:41 AMLike 1
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- Problem is, iPhone doesn't need to run android apps where BlackBerry does. If we have much better app ecosystem, obviously we won't need such powerful CPU. However, unfortunately don't have such ecosystem ND definitely it's better to have a better hardware spec.
BlackBerry Z10 10.2.1.3175dejanh likes this.08-09-14 09:02 AMLike 1 - Problem is, iPhone doesn't need to run android apps where BlackBerry does. If we have much better app ecosystem, obviously we won't need such powerful CPU. However, unfortunately don't have such ecosystem ND definitely it's better to have a better hardware spec.
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