01-09-17 10:47 AM
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  1. 85_305's Avatar
    Are there any cons to encrypting the device and ssd card?

    If my device takes a dump but I have a full backup in Link, can't I just restore the backup to the new phone and everything just works?

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    01-05-17 01:30 PM
  2. thurask's Avatar
    An encrypted SD is unusable if the device it was encrypted with is wiped/lost.
    01-05-17 01:31 PM
  3. conite's Avatar
    Encrypted SD card will NOT be recoverable if the phone dies, or you do a clean install of the OS.

    Device itself will backup and be recoverable with Link.

    Minor performance hit.
    01-05-17 01:32 PM
  4. 85_305's Avatar
    So as long as I can lay the backup of the phone onto a new device if this one kicks the bucket, I'm golden. Right?

    Also, you can always decrypt the ssd card right? I have zero reasons to ever remove my ssd, but if my phone were compromised and the ssd taken, bad things could happen.

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    01-05-17 01:35 PM
  5. conite's Avatar
    So as long as I can lay the backup of the phone onto a new device if this one kicks the bucket, I'm golden. Right?

    Also, you can always decrypt the ssd card right? I have zero reasons to ever remove my ssd, but if my phone were compromised and the ssd taken, bad things could happen.

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    No. SD card will be useless if something happens to your phone.
    01-05-17 01:41 PM
  6. 85_305's Avatar
    I meant I can use my device to turn off encryption again...

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    01-05-17 06:12 PM
  7. conite's Avatar
    I meant I can use my device to turn off encryption again...

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    If your device is damaged, or if you do a security wipe or reload your OS, you will not be able to decrypt your SD card.
    01-05-17 06:21 PM
  8. thurask's Avatar
    I meant I can use my device to turn off encryption again...

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    The key is tied to the OS install on your device; wiping or switching devices loses the key, and your encrypted files are junk.

    If that's an issue for you, don't encrypt in the first place.
    01-05-17 06:53 PM
  9. S1lv1o's Avatar
    Some Amazon apps really didn't like the phone being encrypted, Kindle in particular: the app wouldn't open, the phone would get very warm, the battery would last a lot less, and this would happen with every update. Eventually gave up on Kindle, kept the encryption, everything else including some Android Apps via Cobalt's methods work well.
    01-05-17 09:55 PM
  10. howarmat's Avatar
    i would never encrypt my sd card. to much can go wrong and then you lose it all
    01-05-17 10:00 PM
  11. 85_305's Avatar
    The key is tied to the OS install on your device; wiping or switching devices loses the key, and your encrypted files are junk.

    If that's an issue for you, don't encrypt in the first place.
    What if I took a full backup then laid the full backup onto a new device? I would think this would keep the encryption intact??



    To everybody, thank you for your input I really appreciate it like always


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    01-05-17 10:48 PM
  12. conite's Avatar
    What if I took a full backup then laid the full backup onto a new device? I would think this would keep the encryption intact??



    To everybody, thank you for your input I really appreciate it like always


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    It doesn't.
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    01-05-17 10:50 PM
  13. thurask's Avatar
    What if I took a full backup then laid the full backup onto a new device? I would think this would keep the encryption intact??
    Still no.
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    01-05-17 10:58 PM
  14. howarmat's Avatar
    The only thing that can unencrypt the SD once encrypted is the original device on the original OS install. Thats it. Even with an OS upgrade you might lose your stuff
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    01-05-17 11:08 PM
  15. 85_305's Avatar
    Oh wow that's interesting. Likely not worth it to me, I don't have any mil-grade files on my phone. Thank you guys VERY much, as always.

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    01-06-17 08:44 AM
  16. dkon1000's Avatar
    As long as you have your files on the encrypted external card synced to a folder on your laptop via Link then you have a copy of everything if something happened to your phone.

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    01-06-17 10:40 AM
  17. 85_305's Avatar
    I'm pretty sure encryption doesn't work that way... it needs a host to decrypt the files.

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    01-06-17 12:29 PM
  18. thurask's Avatar
    As long as you have your files on the encrypted external card synced to a folder on your laptop via Link then you have a copy of everything if something happened to your phone.

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    Unless the laptop copy is encrypted as well (Bitlocker or something like that) then that copy is stored unencrypted.
    01-06-17 01:26 PM
  19. dkon1000's Avatar
    Files synced through Blackberry link to a folder on your computer are unencrypted before they are saved so you will have a copy.

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    FF22 likes this.
    01-06-17 04:42 PM
  20. beowulf1211's Avatar
    Unless you work for a corporate company you don't need it. If you want privacy from the government, then tough luck. BlackBerry definitely has a back door and John Chen will decrypt your phone with his own bare hands to please his biggest client: the government.

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    01-06-17 05:12 PM
  21. thurask's Avatar
    Files synced through Blackberry link to a folder on your computer are unencrypted before they are saved so you will have a copy.

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    Which defeats the purpose of encryption, if one is going to keep files in unencrypted copies.
    01-06-17 07:33 PM
  22. 85_305's Avatar
    Unless you work for a corporate company you don't need it. If you want privacy from the government, then tough luck. BlackBerry definitely has a back door and John Chen will decrypt your phone with his own bare hands to please his biggest client: the government.

    Posted via CB10
    You say this like it's ever happened in the past 15 or so years of blackberry, even as being the primary phone of governments and mafias across the world?

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    01-06-17 07:53 PM
  23. 85_305's Avatar
    Interesting to know regarding syncing the files unencrypted via Link! Thank you guys

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    01-06-17 07:54 PM
  24. thurask's Avatar
    You say this like it's ever happened in the past 15 or so years of blackberry, even as being the primary phone of governments and mafias across the world?

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    https://www.thestar.com/business/201...john-chen.html

    http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/outrage...ages-1.2861290

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/bl...ages-1.3620186
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    01-06-17 08:21 PM
  25. beowulf1211's Avatar
    @85_305

    I genuinely gave you advice pal. Unless you work for a corporation that requires secrecy...your encryption is useless. Nobody wants to see pictures of you eating a burger.
    And if you still encrypt your device, it won't be safe from the prying eyes of Big Brother. Capeesh?

    Posted via CB10
    01-06-17 08:24 PM
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