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  1. 85_305's Avatar
    Just curious, what offers the best picture? I also use 1:1, since it fits our phones the best, but I noticed that when I have those pictures professionally printed, they NEVER fit and always have to be cropped. Whereas, my gf's iPhone5 has perfectly shaped pic's typically. I love the picture on my passport, although it's EASIER to take a good picture with her iPhone5 but when I DO take a good picture with my passport, it's eons better than her iPhone5.

    Suggestions?
    09-10-16 12:28 PM
  2. jope28's Avatar
    Well, the 4:3 aspect ratio is the native resolution of the camera module on the Passport.

    Meaning that you get the maximum number of pixels the hardware can produce when using 4:3.

    When you use the 1:1 or 16:9, all it actually does is crop/delete part of the image to give you that ratio.

    To test it out, take a picture from the same spot with all 3 ratios and compare. You'll notice that 4:3 is the one that captures more content.

    Point is, that you get the maximum resolution when using 4:3.

    Best to always use 4:3 and then just use the image editor on the Passport to crop to 1:1 or 16:9 if you need those resolutions.

    Same result.


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  3. 85_305's Avatar
    Whattttt? Are you serious? I thought, for some reason, that maximum resolution was at 1:1! Well shoot! So how many mega pixel do I actually achieve at 1:1 then? I'm changing to 4:3 right now!

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    09-10-16 01:08 PM
  4. jope28's Avatar
    Whattttt? Are you serious? I thought, for some reason, that maximum resolution was at 1:1! Well shoot! So how many mega pixel do I actually achieve at 1:1 then? I'm changing to 4:3 right now!

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    For the Passport:

    4:3 is 41603120=12,979,200 = 13MP

    16:9 is 41602340=9,734,400 = 10MP

    1:1 is 31203120=9,734,400 = 10MP

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    Also, if you don't mind spending of couple of bucks and want to tinker with some settings, I recommend this camera app http://appworld.blackberry.com/webst...ntent/59348437 and it actually has a nice user's manual to help with all the settings http://inmobisoft.com/index.php/downloads/

    I play with the video resolution settings on that app to record videos that have a small enough file size to send over BBM. Works great, but the number of options can be a bit much lol



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    09-10-16 02:14 PM
  5. 85_305's Avatar
    I will read that link now. Wow, I had no idea that the 1:1 was only 10mp. Interesting to know. Thank you for your help, you've been great!

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    09-11-16 01:47 PM
  6. jbarrack's Avatar
    Thanks Jope28. Great info.

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    09-11-16 08:39 PM
  7. BoyTanggol's Avatar
    So that's why my Z10 is always better in terms of picture quality!

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    09-12-16 06:03 AM
  8. conite's Avatar
    So that's why my Z10 is always better in terms of picture quality!

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    Better than what?

    What is the connection to the discussion here?
    09-12-16 06:35 AM
  9. Bla1ze's Avatar
    Better than what?

    What is the connection to the discussion here?
    A potato.
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    09-12-16 06:59 AM
  10. BoyTanggol's Avatar
    Better than what?

    What is the connection to the discussion here?
    I always find my Z10 pictures better than my Passport.
    So my after reading that Passport 1:1 only uses 10mp (not 13mp) on that mode I hastely concluded that that's the reason why I'm not satisfied on my passport's photo quality.

    But that doesn't matter now, after reading that Z10 camera is only 8mp. So it's not about picture ratio after all.

    Did you see the connection now?



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    09-12-16 07:42 AM
  11. Yertie's Avatar
    I leave my camera at 1:1. It gives different creative opportunities compared to the "standard" formats.
    09-12-16 08:36 AM
  12. conite's Avatar
    I leave my camera at 1:1. It gives different creative opportunities compared to the "standard" formats.
    Not really since it's already cropping your image.

    4:3 uses the full array.
    09-12-16 08:39 AM
  13. FF22's Avatar
    SMC, the BB guy working on the Camera app on the Priv has said the same thing about resolution. Take the picture at 4:3 (or 3:4) and then do your own cropping. Now, that obviously requires work and after the fact aesthetics. Using 4:3 seems less satisfying when that leaves blank space on the screen. That appearance is what caused me to change my Z30 and then the Priv to 16:9. It is also easier to compose using the full screen and seeing what the ultimate image (TV widescreen) will look like.

    I did find a Win program that allows you to move a 16:9 rectangle over the 4:3 and just crop it. Now discretion comes into play

    FastStone Image Viewer - Powerful and Intuitive Photo Viewer, Editor and Batch Converter

    I will add that I discovered the program in a Youtube tutorial on how to crop 4:3 images to 16:9.
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    09-12-16 09:49 AM
  14. BB-JAM215's Avatar
    Most digital camera sensors are made with a 4:3 aspect ratio, so using a 1:1 picture ratio would result in fewer pixels.
    The iPhone 4/4S used a 3:2 ratio which matches a standard 4x6 print. Newer iPhones are 16:9.
    When making 4x6 print from a 4:3 ratio camera you may not notice the cropping that occurs at the top and bottom of the original image.
    09-12-16 09:50 AM
  15. BB-JAM215's Avatar
    ....I did find a Win program that allows you to move a 16:9 rectangle over the 4:3 and just crop it. Now discretion comes into play

    FastStone Image Viewer - Powerful and Intuitive Photo Viewer, Editor and Batch Converter
    I have used FastStone Image Viewer for years. It has a wide range of features and is quick and easy to use. Just slide your mouse to the side or bottom of the screen to bring up the pop-up menu options. For a quick crop just press "x" and choose the ratio you want.
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    09-12-16 10:00 AM
  16. jope28's Avatar
    SMC, the BB guy working on the Camera app on the Priv has said the same thing about resolution. Take the picture at 4:3 (or 3:4) and then do your own cropping. Now, that obviously requires work and after the fact aesthetics. Using 4:3 seems less satisfying when that leaves blank space on the screen. That appearance is what caused me to change my Z30 and then the Priv to 16:9. It is also easier to compose using the full screen and seeing what the ultimate image (TV widescreen) will look like.

    I did find a Win program that allows you to move a 16:9 rectangle over the 4:3 and just crop it. Now discretion comes into play

    FastStone Image Viewer - Powerful and Intuitive Photo Viewer, Editor and Batch Converter
    I'm also a big fan of their Photo Resizer app.
    Great because it has Batch Mode. That's a life saver!

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    09-12-16 10:22 AM
  17. yrfthl's Avatar
    I don't have a Passport anymore, but when I did I had it on 4:3 all the time. I found that it made a huge difference in photo quality.
    09-12-16 10:33 AM
  18. Troy Tiscareno's Avatar
    35mm film used a 4:3 ratio, and this became the basis for most digital photography as well.
    09-12-16 11:13 AM
  19. 85_305's Avatar
    I don't have a Passport anymore, but when I did I had it on 4:3 all the time. I found that it made a huge difference in photo quality.
    Interesting to know! I have only taken a few petty pictures so far going from 1:1 to 4:3, so I cannot attest... but I am going to test this out soon.

    35mm film used a 4:3 ratio, and this became the basis for most digital photography as well.
    lol, this explains why ALL of my good pictures I took at 1:1 ended up looking HORRIBLE when I had a print shop develop them, but my gf's iPhone5s turned out fantastic.
    09-12-16 01:06 PM
  20. Mataras's Avatar
    Very informative post! Thanks

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    09-12-16 02:09 PM
  21. Yertie's Avatar
    Not really since it's already cropping your image.

    4:3 uses the full array.
    Yes, but the shape is what gives the possibilities. I wouldn't use 1:1 on a widescreen display - makes no sense.
    09-12-16 05:26 PM
  22. conite's Avatar
    Yes, but the shape is what gives the possibilities. I wouldn't use 1:1 on a widescreen display - makes no sense.
    But some of the image is already cropped out when you take a 1:1 picture. What if you wanted to use a part that is no longer there?
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    09-12-16 05:58 PM
  23. yrfthl's Avatar
    Interesting to know! I have only taken a few petty pictures so far going from 1:1 to 4:3, so I cannot attest... but I am going to test this out soon.

    lol, this explains why ALL of my good pictures I took at 1:1 ended up looking HORRIBLE when I had a print shop develop them, but my gf's iPhone5s turned out fantastic.
    Give it a shot!

    Absolutely. Unfortunately you were taking a crop of a crop while cropping the 1:1 to 4:3 for prints. I feel like you'll notice a difference for the upcoming shots. When I had my Passport, I was using a 5S at the same time. I would rate both cameras equal, in the sense that they both excel in differing conditions/types of shots.
    09-12-16 06:42 PM
  24. Troy Tiscareno's Avatar
    lol, this explains why ALL of my good pictures I took at 1:1 ended up looking HORRIBLE when I had a print shop develop them, but my gf's iPhone5s turned out fantastic.
    Here's essentially what happened:



    The whole image is what your camera's sensor was able to see. The square is what the camera cropped the picture to because you had it set to 1:1 ratio. Then, when you had the photos printed, they were cropped again to fit the approx 4:3 paper - that's the rectangle in the middle.
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    09-12-16 07:33 PM
  25. earthquakefish's Avatar
    Conite, I believe Yertie is talking about the creative process instead of what creative potentials exist with capturing all the camera can. Ie, the square format let's him see what he is capturing in a different perspective than he otherwise would.

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    09-12-16 09:03 PM
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