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  1. lawguyman's Avatar
    What's the typical turn around for timing of a device to go through the FCC, be announced and hit the markets for sale?

    White Z30STA100-5/10.2.1.1925 = heaven.
    It still has to get through carrier testing. This is probably why it is launching first in Europe and then in the US. The U.S takes more time.

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    08-04-14 02:59 PM
  2. Bla1ze's Avatar
    What's the typical turn around for timing of a device to go through the FCC, be announced and hit the markets for sale?

    White Z30STA100-5/10.2.1.1925 = heaven.
    There is no 'typical' time really.
    08-04-14 03:00 PM
  3. austriker's Avatar
    It still has to get through carrier testing. This is probably why it is launching first in Europe and then in the US. The U.S takes more time.

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    Good point. The us carriers suck and are super slow. Although I intend to buy it directly from BlackBerry or unlocked, not from a carrier.

    White Z30STA100-5/10.2.1.1925 = heaven.
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    08-04-14 03:09 PM
  4. lawguyman's Avatar
    Good point. The us carriers suck and are super slow. Although I intend to buy it directly from BlackBerry or unlocked, not from a carrier.

    White Z30STA100-5/10.2.1.1925 = heaven.
    For sure. I need a Canadian friend to come through for me.

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    08-04-14 03:12 PM
  5. nickelodeon008's Avatar
    I want to get one also probably in the new year to replace my z 10. My only concern is that I thought I read an article that the Passport will have limited apps, not that I use alot of them anyway. I do understand its more for Enterprise users though. Is this device not able to use all Blackberry World and Amazon apps.?? I hope the article was wrong. I thing it bwas a Seeking Alpha article and it also says its because of 16:9 ratio- I'm not tech savvy with that so I don't quite understand what that means.
    08-04-14 03:37 PM
  6. thurask's Avatar
    Note there is another model, RGY181LW. It also supports other bands that are not operational in North America: gsm/gprs/edge 900/1800; umts/hspa bands viii/i and LTE bands 1,3,8,20; and LTE band 7 that works only in Canada.

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    They're the same. For some reason numbers in FCC IDs are rounded down. Like this Z30 (RFY111LW):

    BlackBerry Passport  Passes Through FCC-img_20140804_155305.png

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    08-04-14 03:54 PM
  7. lawguyman's Avatar
    They're the same. For some reason numbers in FCC IDs are rounded down. Like this Z30 (RFY111LW):

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    So all those bands will be supported? That's a lot of bands.

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    08-04-14 04:07 PM
  8. raino's Avatar
    L6ARGY180LW by BlackBerry Limited for Original Equipment (L6A-RGY180LW, L6A RGY180LW)

    Additional details on FCC website, which can't be linked to.
    Wait...the RGY181LW has the 1,3,7,8,20 and the other set of LTE bands? There are two devices under RGY181LW and the corresponding FCC ID?
    08-04-14 04:51 PM
  9. Foreverup's Avatar
    So all those bands will be supported? That's a lot of bands.

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    Does that mean GSM and CDMA band in one phone?
    08-04-14 04:52 PM
  10. lawguyman's Avatar
    Wait...the RGY181LW has the 1,3,7,8,20 and the other set of LTE bands? There are two devices under RGY181LW and the corresponding FCC ID?
    It is only one device. It uses all the bands - both sets posted - but the FCC only cares about the ones used in the US.

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    08-04-14 04:53 PM
  11. raino's Avatar
    It is only one device. It uses all the bands - both sets posted - but the FCC only cares about the ones used in the US.
    Didn't scroll low enough in the SAR report.

    That's a lot of bands in one device, including LTE bands 13 and 17! Which means phone will work* on both AT&T and Verizon. Hot damn.

    *Phone seems to be lacking Verizon's CDMA bands, which means no voice calling unless one's in a voLTE (test) market.
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    08-04-14 04:59 PM
  12. lawguyman's Avatar
    Didn't scroll low enough in the SAR report.

    That's a lot of bands in one device, including LTE bands 13 and 17! Which means phone will work* on both AT&T and Verizon. Hot damn.

    *Phone seems to be lacking Verizon's CDMA bands, which means no voice calling unless one's in a voLTE (test) market.
    Under "Other non-LTE U.S wireless operating modes/bands" it lists: umts/wcdma 850 mhz, umts/wcdma 1800mhz and umts/wcdma 1900 mhz.

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    08-04-14 05:04 PM
  13. raino's Avatar
    Under "Other non-LTE U.S wireless operating modes/bands" it lists: umts/wcdma 850 mhz, umts/wcdma 1800mhz and umts/wcdma 1900 mhz.
    Oh yeah...I saw all that. I'm just surprised at seeing LTE bands 13 and 17 in the same device. BlackBerry has never done that, and I would have never pegged them to do that as it's somewhat of a FU to Verizon.
    08-04-14 05:09 PM
  14. lawguyman's Avatar
    Oh yeah...I saw all that. I'm just surprised at seeing LTE bands 13 and 17 in the same device. BlackBerry has never done that, and I would have never pegged them to do that as it's somewhat of a FU to Verizon.
    How come?

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    08-04-14 05:10 PM
  15. raino's Avatar
    How come?
    Because band 13 essentially means this device can be taken to Verizon, and even if they never carry it, they will have to accept it on their network due to open network rules that govern 700c spectrum. Like I said previously, voice coverage may not be there initially, but if you're in a voLTE market, or just want to use this as a data-only device, Verizon has to let you.
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    08-04-14 05:13 PM
  16. Ment's Avatar
    What's the typical turn around for timing of a device to go through the FCC, be announced and hit the markets for sale?

    White Z30STA100-5/10.2.1.1925 = heaven.
    No typical time but the Samsung S5 got their USA FCC certs in March of this year and launched the next month.
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    08-04-14 05:16 PM
  17. lawguyman's Avatar
    Because band 13 essentially means this device can be taken to Verizon, and even if they never carry it, they will have to accept it on their network due to open network rules that govern 700c spectrum. Like I said previously, voice coverage may not be there initially, but if you're in a voLTE market, or just want to use this as a data-only device, Verizon has to let you.
    Aren't these CDMA bands for Verizon?

    umts/wcdma 850 mhz, umts/wcdma 1800mhz and umts/wcdma 1900 mhz.

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    08-04-14 05:19 PM
  18. raino's Avatar
    Aren't these CDMA bands for Verizon?

    umts/wcdma 850 mhz, umts/wcdma 1800mhz and umts/wcdma 1900 mhz.
    No, those are WCDMA bands, which, very simplistically is a standard for UMTS, which is 3G/HSPA+ on the GSM side.
    08-04-14 05:28 PM
  19. lawguyman's Avatar
    No, those are WCDMA bands, which, very simplistically is a standard for UMTS, which is 3G/HSPA+ on the GSM side.
    Oh. Okay. I just didn't know.

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    08-04-14 05:30 PM
  20. raino's Avatar
    Hell, I don't think I've even heard of b13 phones without Verizon CDMA. I know the Nexus 7 has b13 and no CDMA, but that's a tablet which would require a tablet SIM. So how will this even work?
    08-04-14 05:34 PM
  21. lawguyman's Avatar
    08-04-14 05:44 PM
  22. raino's Avatar
    Interesting assertion in there, but completely off the mark. They're just testing/doing initial deployments of voLTE, so voice is still largely off of the CDMA network. Probably will be for the next 2-5 years, I would think.
    08-04-14 06:05 PM
  23. tinochiko's Avatar
    12 September launch!

    #Bla1zeCertified

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    08-04-14 06:05 PM
  24. raino's Avatar
    12 September launch!

    #Bla1zeCertified
    Lol. That's not what he meant. Check out post#12 from Andrew4life for a more accurate explanation of the 9/12 date.
    08-04-14 06:10 PM
  25. tinochiko's Avatar
    Lol. That's not what he meant. Check out post#12 from Andrew4life for a more accurate explanation of the 9/12 date.
    I reject your reality and substitute my own

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    08-04-14 07:22 PM
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