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  1. TgeekB's Avatar
    I think what would stop most dedicated OS10 users from jumping to an Android Passport is their (and my) inherent distrust for all things Google.
    When you jump onto anything Google, you become the product. Sure, all of their products are free, but that's because they sell everything they've got from you to the highest (or any) bidders.

    Posted via CB10
    I agree with your first paragraph. Many iPhone users would never go over to Google, though many might and have.
    I totally disagree with your second paragraph because it does not truthfully represent Googles business model.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    11-19-19 05:06 PM
  2. mvsaratchandra92's Avatar
    I gotta admit, I'm the biggest BlackBerry fan I know. I take "abuse" from people weekly for it. But even I left for a spell a few months ago to try the Samsung Note 9 as I was tired of making concessions for my Passport or carrying around two devices to make up for the app gap,...

    But I'm back. Yes, back to the BlackBerry Passport as my primary daily driver. Why? Simple, I want to. For me, the pros still outweigh the cons. After having a top of the line Android smartphone as my primary device, I kept longing for a better typing and messaging experience, and luckily I knew where to find it because I loved my Passport for 3 years prior to leaving, and of course never got rid of it just in case I needed to come back.

    But how does one use a BlackBerry Passport as a primary daily driver in 2019 in this world driven by apps and media consumption? Simple, you do without or you supplement for what you're lacking. So I am doing a little both. Sometimes when I need apps and insurance of working websites and a great camera, I carry both devices. Sometimes when I only need the basics, I carry only my beloved Passport. Annoying? Perhaps to some, but I found it more annoying without my Passport. Annoying is relative.

    "BUT, there's no future with the Passport!!!" Maybe, but there's still a present, and that's where I live. Yes, to each its own...

    If you still use the Passport primarily, I'm curious how and why?

    Cheers

    P.S. I'm still holding out hope that somehow, someday a new Passport surfaces that allows us to be "future-proof". I know, fat chance...

    Posted via CB10
    I am using key2 and passport. Love them both. I mostly use passport as a vacation from all the apps and android. The ui and os are pretty pleasant. Imma use it until it dies. But key 2 is love too.
    ratfinkstooley likes this.
    11-21-19 11:42 AM
  3. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    I agree with your first paragraph. Many iPhone users would never go over to Google, though many might and have.
    I totally disagree with your second paragraph because it does not truthfully represent Googles business model.
    Yeah some don't really get what Google does with the data they collect... nor how much you can opt out of. But I hear Tin Foil is comfortable...
    11-21-19 03:45 PM
  4. TgeekB's Avatar
    Yeah some don't really get what Google does with the data they collect... nor how much you can opt out of. But I hear Tin Foil is comfortable...
    Much more comfortable than sheet metal.
    11-21-19 06:01 PM
  5. Suzeranne's Avatar
    Still using my passport because I am stubborn and so is my passport. New red Key2 has been sitting around charged and waiting for my passport data to be moved over. I'm reluctant to move my data over, the passport has survived being embedded in dry wall, I worry the Key2 may not be as good at surviving such things.

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    11-25-19 12:44 AM
  6. the_boon's Avatar
    Still using my passport because I am stubborn and so is my passport. New red Key2 has been sitting around charged and waiting for my passport data to be moved over. I'm reluctant to move my data over, the passport has survived being embedded in dry wall, I worry the Key2 may not be as good at surviving such things.

    Posted via CB10
    The KEY2 may not be as tough as the Passport but it's not a piece of paper either lol.

    But especially a Red KEY2 it would be a shame to abuse it lol
    Suzeranne likes this.
    11-25-19 10:24 PM
  7. vsparacio's Avatar
    I purchased the SE about a year ago after my first AT&T model died and I'm still using it. Best phone ever created for communicating and reading or watching videos online. I had an Android for the interim between my AT&T and the SE; no comparison. And don't get me started on Apple...I try to use my wife's iphone occasions and just have to put it down in frustration. I can say I'm so fortunate to have had the opportunity to use and experience this wonderful communication device. I don't use apps so yes that puts me in an odd camp, but I don't think I will ever have a phone as good as my Passport in my lifetime. Thank you John Chen for pushing the development, but at the same time, very disappointing that you did not push the marketing on this unparalleled communication and productivity slice of technology heaven. I posted this in another thread last year when I first started using my SE. Hats off to all of you still using your Passports...we saw the best there was for all of us that just wanted a solid, fluid, powerful communication tool.
    ratfinkstooley likes this.
    12-01-19 12:47 AM
  8. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    I purchased the SE about a year ago after my first AT&T model died and I'm still using it. Best phone ever created for communicating and reading or watching videos online. I had an Android for the interim between my AT&T and the SE; no comparison. And don't get me started on Apple...I try to use my wife's iphone occasions and just have to put it down in frustration. I can say I'm so fortunate to have had the opportunity to use and experience this wonderful communication device. I don't use apps so yes that puts me in an odd camp, but I don't think I will ever have a phone as good as my Passport in my lifetime. Thank you John Chen for pushing the development, but at the same time, very disappointing that you did not push the marketing on this unparalleled communication and productivity slice of technology heaven. I posted this in another thread last year when I first started using my SE. Hats off to all of you still using your Passports...we saw the best there was for all of us that just wanted a solid, fluid, powerful communication tool.
    Microsoft’s billions proved it’s not marketing that killed anything but Android/iOS but simply 99% of the planet wants complete ecosystem. Developers refuse to serve more than a duopoly.

    That being said, BlackBerry has never had the economic resources to continue in the mobile space anyway since 2012 or so. It’s only ability to be in the mobile space was BBOS with the monthly fees. So anything past BBOS wasn’t ever a realistic option.
    12-01-19 11:50 AM
  9. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    Microsoft’s billions proved it’s not marketing that killed anything but Android/iOS but simply 99% of the planet wants complete ecosystem. Developers refuse to serve more than a duopoly.

    That being said, BlackBerry has never had the economic resources to continue in the mobile space anyway since 2012 or so. It’s only ability to be in the mobile space was BBOS with the monthly fees. So anything past BBOS wasn’t ever a realistic option.
    BlackBerry did the marketing that would be expected of a company their size back in 2013.... I don't know why folks here don't remember it.

    Once BB10 flopped, yes they stopped marketing... they could have spent billions like Microsoft without changing the fact that developers were never going to bother with a platform with no real numbers behind it. Time for building a platform was 2007, not 2013.
    12-03-19 08:39 AM
  10. howarmat's Avatar
    BlackBerry did the marketing that would be expected of a company their size back in 2013.... I don't know why folks here don't remember it.

    Once BB10 flopped, yes they stopped marketing... they could have spent billions like Microsoft without changing the fact that developers were never going to bother with a platform with no real numbers behind it. Time for building a platform was 2007, not 2013.
    Right it was a short window but after first 2-3 months of z10 sales/returns data the writing was on the wall. The Q10 was a slim chance to turn around but that obviously was no better. So after the horrible wasted millions on the Super Bowl ad opportunity and 2-3 months of commercials that I saw it was essentially already over. Like I said, very small time frame in which spending money on the marketing made good sense
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