12-21-17 07:40 PM
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  1. aodash's Avatar
    So it looks like BB10 devices have quietly been removed from BlackBerry's website. Previously this link:

    https://us.blackberry.com/smartphones

    also listed the Passport (and Leap and Priv). Like the DTEKs, BlackBerry would just link to Amazon to purchase.

    Now Amazon still has all three devices in stock (via Prime), so it isn't like there isn't inventory.

    According to the Web Archive, the site still listed the other devices as recently as December 1st 2017:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20171201...om/smartphones

    We all knew this was coming, but sad to see BlackBerry so quietly remove it.
    12-09-17 07:13 PM
  2. gruv4u's Avatar
    The end of an era that never was. I'm gonna hate getting rid of my...

     Passport SE SQW100-4 with Vitamin (SR) 10.3.2.2836 (OS Version) 10.3.2.2876 on AT&T
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    12-09-17 07:28 PM
  3. conite's Avatar
    but sad to see BlackBerry so quietly remove it.
    Should it have been done with great fanfare?

    Anyhow, the Canadian site is better. The Motion is there.

    https://ca.blackberry.com/smartphones
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    12-09-17 07:47 PM
  4. BB-JAM215's Avatar
    ... Like the DTEKs, BlackBerry would just link to Amazon to purchase.

    Now Amazon still has all three devices in stock (via Prime), so it isn't like there isn't.
    None of these phones are stocked or sold by Amazon, they are sold through other resellers and fulfilled by Amazon.
    12-09-17 07:49 PM
  5. aodash's Avatar
    Should it have been done with great fanfare?

    Anyhow, the Canadian site is better. The Motion is there.

    https://ca.blackberry.com/smartphones
    Great question. Definitely not great fanfare, but maybe an official acknowledgment.

    I did see that the Motion was on the CA site earlier!
    12-09-17 08:18 PM
  6. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    Great question. Definitely not great fanfare, but maybe an official acknowledgment.

    I did see that the Motion was on the CA site earlier!
    Exactly what type official acknowledgement would you expect and why and how would BlackBerry do it?
    12-09-17 08:38 PM
  7. wingnut666's Avatar
    the blackberry we knew and loved has closed its doors. the company that now calls itself blackberry is in the business of..well...who cares. RIP BB.

    Posted via CBX
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    12-09-17 08:48 PM
  8. johnny_bravo72's Avatar
    Exactly what type official acknowledgement would you expect and why and how would BlackBerry do it?
    Perhaps another Superbowl ad, but this time to mourn BB10's demise. 😉
    12-09-17 10:46 PM
  9. BlackBerryPassport's Avatar
    BlackBerry is Dead, it's now reborn & names 'GooBerry'

    Posted via CB10
    12-09-17 11:42 PM
  10. kvndoom's Avatar
    Fully committed.
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    12-10-17 05:05 AM
  11. anon(8679041)'s Avatar
    Should it have been done with great fanfare?
    Keeping us, loyalist, updated/informed would have been the best option here (IMO). That's as well how branding works. You build smth with your audience. You create a relationship.

    But who cares, lol
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    12-10-17 08:43 AM
  12. thurask's Avatar
    Should it have been done with great fanfare?

    Anyhow, the Canadian site is better. The Motion is there.

    https://ca.blackberry.com/smartphones
    When's the last time they did anything with fanfare greater than "some podcast", anyway?
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    12-10-17 08:45 AM
  13. andy957's Avatar
    Should it have been done with great fanfare?

    Anyhow, the Canadian site is better. The Motion is there.

    https://ca.blackberry.com/smartphones
    That wasn’t the point of the OP. S/he said BB10 devices are now gone, not the Motion.
    12-10-17 09:02 AM
  14. conite's Avatar
    That wasn’t the point of the OP. S/he said BB10 devices are now gone, not the Motion.
    I responded to the question, and then added a fun fact about the Canadian site.

    The OP was good with it:
    /blackberry-passport-f434/bb10-devices-quietly-removed-blackberry-com-1132608-post13089636/

    Not sure why you're so obsessed with such triviality. I think you need to take a step back and enjoy the discussion.
    12-10-17 10:07 AM
  15. Dean Laxer's Avatar
    no surprise there... BB10 was unofficially tossed aside when the jump to android was announced. Still glad to see them in business, instead of the total train wreck Nokia has become...
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    12-10-17 11:47 AM
  16. G_Unit MVP's Avatar
    I think the fact that they kept them in the page, and continued with the "fully committed" line is more unfair though...

    Posted vía CB10 with my Passport SE SQW100-4
    12-10-17 11:52 AM
  17. conite's Avatar
    no surprise there... BB10 was unofficially tossed aside when the jump to android was announced. Still glad to see them in business, instead of the total train wreck Nokia has become...
    Keep in mind that BB10 was being tossed aside whether or not BlackBerry Android was to be given a shot. One really has nothing to do with the other.

    Chen was hired in 2013 to do just that.
    Last edited by conite; 12-10-17 at 12:29 PM.
    12-10-17 12:00 PM
  18. Dean Laxer's Avatar
    that's not quite true... if BB10 had been more successful, they might have ignored plan B, since every extra development would cost time and money. it was obvious that BB10 was the last straw with its side loading apk's. i mean, why bother with android at all, if full android wouldn't be the final strategy to save the hardware business? quite logical...
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    12-10-17 12:10 PM
  19. conite's Avatar
    that's not quite true... if BB10 had been more successful, they might have ignored plan B, since every extra development would cost time and money. it was obvious that BB10 was the last straw with its side loading apk's. i mean, why bother with android at all, if full android wouldn't be the final strategy to save the hardware business? quite logical...
    Then I wasn't clear. BB10's demise was going to happen whether or not BlackBerry Android was given a shot.

    BB10's fate was decided in late summer of 2013 when the BlackBerry BoD put the company up for sale.

    Chen was hired to burn through supplier and customer commitments on BB10, and pivot to software. BlackBerry Android was just a low-risk, low-cost Hail Mary.
    Last edited by conite; 12-10-17 at 12:38 PM.
    12-10-17 12:25 PM
  20. Invictus0's Avatar
    Yup, after BlackBerry left the consumer market in 2013 the best that we could have hoped for was a niche enterprise/business focused BB10 but they never sold enough units to meet their sales targets.

    For what it's worth, they never did with BB Android either but there's at least interest from third parties in licensing it.
    12-10-17 12:40 PM
  21. Troy Tiscareno's Avatar
    Yup, after BlackBerry left the consumer market in 2013 the best that we could have hoped for was a niche enterprise/business focused BB10 but they never sold enough units to meet their sales targets.
    By 2012, the "corporate smartphone" no longer existed as a separate category. They simply became consumer phones - the same phones as purchased by individuals - managed by MDM software. The most common phone purchased by businesses and government agencies is the iPhone, followed by the Galaxy S. The market that BB once owned (government/corporate/enterprise) largely ceased to exist between 2010 and 2012, between Apple's embrace of enterprise needs (and Samsung's fast follow-on) and BYOD.

    There's really no such thing as a profitable low-volume smartphone, outside of (what I consider to be) scam brands like Vertu, which charges thousands of dollars for a run-of-the-mill smartphone in a fancy case - and Vertu isn't doing that great either. But it's *especially* not possible to have a profitable low-volume smartphone *if you have to support its entire OS an ecosystem.* An OS by itself without an ecosystem isn't a commercially viable product - it won't make a profit unless you can convince people to pay several thousand dollars per device or more. And ironically, by constantly over-producing, BB trained its buyers to expect quick discounts which completely undermined any possible profit.
    12-11-17 12:18 AM
  22. BlackBerryPassport's Avatar
    Then I wasn't clear. BB10's demise was going to happen whether or not BlackBerry Android was given a shot.

    BB10's fate was decided in late summer of 2013 when the BlackBerry BoD put the company up for sale.

    Chen was hired to burn through supplier and customer commitments on BB10, and pivot to software. BlackBerry Android was just a low-risk, low-cost Hail Mary.
    All agreed that the Line of bb10 was written on wall then why, why did BlackBerry kept on saying ' We are committed to BB10' when they were actually stopped support and development, why to lie ??

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    12-11-17 03:45 AM
  23. johnny_bravo72's Avatar
    All agreed that the Line of bb10 was written on wall then why, why did BlackBerry kept on saying ' We are committed to BB10' when they were actually stopped support and development, why to lie ??

    Posted via CB10
    Because...
    Attached Thumbnails BB10 devices quietly removed from blackberry.com-39847.jpg  
    Last edited by johnny_bravo72; 12-11-17 at 05:33 AM.
    12-11-17 04:02 AM
  24. conite's Avatar
    All agreed that the Line of bb10 was written on wall then why, why did BlackBerry kept on saying ' We are committed to BB10' when they were actually stopped support and development, why to lie ??

    Posted via CB10
    They DID continue to support BB10 from 2013-2017. If you call up tech support, someone will answer. NIAP certification was achieved last year, and we got an update in Jan.

    Plus BB10 still had lots of inventory to sell, as they burned through its supplier commitments.
    12-11-17 06:12 AM
  25. wingnut666's Avatar
    oh yeah...what was the point of niap??

    Posted via CBX
    12-11-17 07:35 AM
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