BB10 devices quietly removed from blackberry.com
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Posted with my trusty Z1012-16-17 07:17 AMLike 0 - They don't have the inventory at all,else they would have not announced the BB10 end of era.sad to hear, and hope they change the decision.
Posted via CB1012-16-17 07:47 AMLike 0 -
Posted via CB1012-16-17 07:53 AMLike 0 - Yes, I understand the huge business challenge of getting such an extremely distributed supply chain to all work together. I hope that, as Android evolves they will start to improve the overall quality and consistency of the Android experience. As much progress as they've made, they still have a long way to go, IMO. I don't want them to become as closed and narrow as iPhone, but I would like to see better coordination between developers and supply chain partners.
Posted with my trusty Z10
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017...d-for-6-years/12-16-17 10:20 AMLike 0 - I am using SE and have been using BlackBerry since 2005,hearing the news about the end of OS is very disturbing for me. Would anyone answer me what will happen to the device once they are done with, I can live with SE if it just works with emails and calls and text. And I read somewhere that. An android is coming on Passports & SE,is it true?
Posted via CB1012-17-17 02:01 AMLike 0 - I am using SE and have been using BlackBerry since 2005,hearing the news about the end of OS is very disturbing for me. Would anyone answer me what will happen to the device once they are done with, I can live with SE if it just works with emails and calls and text. And I read somewhere that. An android is coming on Passports & SE,is it true?
Posted via CB10
More seriously, now, they is no longer any development for three years old devices from a company who left hardware business last year.
Just take your chance on the trade in program that what just announced and grap a KEYone or a Motion instead of your Passport.
Posted via CB1012-17-17 03:13 AMLike 0 - Might be better to trade ( up or down) to whatever arrives after the K1 and motion as they may only get two years of updates ( who knows at this point). I'm sure blackberry mobile wouldn't want you hanging on to a device for longer than that and would prefer you to purchase a new one around every two years.
Posted via CB1012-17-17 03:32 AMLike 0 - I am using SE and have been using BlackBerry since 2005,hearing the news about the end of OS is very disturbing for me. Would anyone answer me what will happen to the device once they are done with, I can live with SE if it just works with emails and calls and text. And I read somewhere that. An android is coming on Passports & SE,is it true?
Posted via CB1012-17-17 06:21 AMLike 0 - Might be better to trade ( up or down) to whatever arrives after the K1 and motion as they may only get two years of updates ( who knows at this point). I'm sure blackberry mobile wouldn't want you hanging on to a device for longer than that and would prefer you to purchase a new one around every two years.
Posted via CB1012-17-17 10:56 AMLike 0 -
But I would expect the Motion and KEYᵒⁿᵉ be continued to be viewed and treated as a pair. KEYᵒⁿᵉ updates will continue as long as the Motion I would imagine. They both are essentially the same device, so should follow the same update path. Unlike previous models, it's no extra work.12-17-17 02:01 PMLike 0 - It didn't get wide release until June. So that's 6 months ago.
But I would expect the Motion and KEYᵒⁿᵉ be continued to be viewed and treated as a pair. KEYᵒⁿᵉ updates will continue as long as the Motion I would imagine. They both are essentially the same device, so should follow the same update path. Unlike previous models, it's no extra work.12-17-17 02:29 PMLike 0 - Now that you mention it, I'm kind of curious how BlackBerry/BBMobile will handle this moving forward. The Priv launched in most (major?) markets in November of 2015 IIRC but the Keyone and Motion have more of a staged rollout, so will the cutoff point be the first global release or will it vary by market? And how about variants like the Keyone Black Edition?
Like I said, I don't see KEYᵒⁿᵉ patches stopping before the essentially identical Motion.12-17-17 02:41 PMLike 0 - 12-18-17 06:39 PMLike 0
- I assume you were not a BB10 customer in 2013. The OS was not ready for prime time. Also, many here forget the BB10 marketing campaign in the Spring of 2013. The campaign was a lot more than one bad Super Bowl ad. Every mobile store I went in had BB10 ads. BlackBerry's reps were out meeting with retailers (Thor did not fire all of them until Oct. of 2013). It was not the best campaign, but a great product would have overcome the campaign. Unfortunately BB10 was not ready - lots of bugs and Blackberry had loads of returns. They eventually would have to write down a lot of z10 inventory. BB10 was not a solid and viable product until BB10 2.1 shipped in the Summer of 2014 (almost 7 years after the iPhone launched).12-18-17 09:21 PMLike 0
- I assume you were not a BB10 customer in 2013. The OS was not ready for prime time. Also, many here forget the BB10 marketing campaign in the Spring of 2013. The campaign was a lot more than one bad Super Bowl ad. Every mobile store I went in had BB10 ads. BlackBerry's reps were out meeting with retailers (Thor did not fire all of them until Oct. of 2013). It was not the best campaign, but a great product would have overcome the campaign. Unfortunately BB10 was not ready - lots of bugs and Blackberry had loads of returns. They eventually would have to write down a lot of z10 inventory. BB10 was not a solid and viable product until BB10 2.1 shipped in the Summer of 2014 (almost 7 years after the iPhone launched).
Posted with my trusty Z1012-19-17 08:15 AMLike 0 -
Posted via CB1012-19-17 09:08 AMLike 0 - A lot of people cite the launch as botched due to the software but it was not as much an issue as people state. I had an early q10 and it was fine. Sure the updates made it more usable and eliminated some bugs but Apples first build was just as horrible and it actually took them longer to iron out their issues.
Posted via CB10
The iPhone on rollout, was the first Apple phone.
BlackBerry had already been in the phone business over 10 years plus they had 5 years since the iPhone rollout to get their crap together.
Plus, waiting for BB10 meant using old BlackBerry or Android/IOS. When BB10 failed on rollout, many just returned device and stuck with Android/IOS devices already nearby in use.12-19-17 09:20 AMLike 0 - A lot of people cite the launch as botched due to the software but it was not as much an issue as people state. I had an early q10 and it was fine. Sure the updates made it more usable and eliminated some bugs but Apples first build was just as horrible and it actually took them longer to iron out their issues.12-19-17 10:01 AMLike 0
- Lucky you. Had a horrendous experience with it during that time. The Z10 is actually the main reason why I never used a BB10 device again.12-19-17 10:04 AMLike 0
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Now I'm double carrying a KEYone, but I only use it for Android apps, which is about 5% of my usage.
Posted with my trusty Z1012-19-17 10:10 AMLike 0 - A lot of people cite the launch as botched due to the software but it was not as much an issue as people state. I had an early q10 and it was fine. Sure the updates made it more usable and eliminated some bugs but Apples first build was just as horrible and it actually took them longer to iron out their issues.
Posted via CB10
Apple launched a new OS in 2007 which, despite its issues, still did enough new and innovative things compared to the competition that people were willing to overlook its early problems. BlackBerry tried this in 2013 when the competition was incredibly fierce and competitive, it didn't help that BlackBerry already had a reputation for releasing unfinished/early products that needed software or hardware updates to compete (Storm, Torch, PlayBook, etc).
Edit: For context,
https://forums.crackberry.com/blackb...0-85-a-776986/12-19-17 10:25 AMLike 0 - I guess it all depends on use case and expectations. I was able to configure my accounts, calendars, contacts, and tasks/notes, and sync them all to various cloud services as needed, and I got a very good (at the time) Web browser. I really didn't want or need anything more than that (and mostly still don't!) on my work device. Of course the browser is getting long in the tooth, but otherwise I'm still very happy with my Z10's performance, which has improved with each update.
Now I'm double carrying a KEYone, but I only use it for Android apps, which is about 5% of my usage.
Posted with my trusty Z10
The original iPhone was able to get around issues because it was initially launched for consumers not companies and was generally sold as an iPod with a phone built in. At the time even Apple did not see it as a development platform.
If BB10 had been launched in 2007 many initial bugs would have been overlooked. Not so in 2013, there were already there solid mobile OS's in the market. BB10 failed in getting corporate approvals in 2013 and by mid 2014 it was game over. Also, in 2013 BES was a mess, companies were decommissioning their BlackBerry servers in droves. BES 12 came out in 2014 and BlackBerry finally had a decent MDM solution to start supporting BYOD.12-19-17 11:28 AMLike 0 - Yes, but many BBOS customers large and small companies were waiting to see BB10. Lots of promises were made. While diehard fans were willing to put up with the issues, most users who needed good solid phones were not.
The original iPhone was able to get around issues because it was initially launched for consumers not companies and was generally sold as an iPod with a phone built in. At the time even Apple did not see it as a development platform.
If BB10 had been launched in 2007 many initial bugs would have been overlooked. Not so in 2013, there were already there solid mobile OS's in the market. BB10 failed in getting corporate approvals in 2013 and by mid 2014 it was game over. Also, in 2013 BES was a mess, companies were decommissioning their BlackBerry servers in droves. BES 12 came out in 2014 and BlackBerry finally had a decent MDM solution to start supporting BYOD.
I think that, by 2013, it was an impossible task, even if the phone and OS had been perfect at launch.
Posted with my trusty Z1012-19-17 11:35 AMLike 0 - The Q10 launched a few months after the Z10 so it had many fixes over the initial launch software that people had problems with. It also helps that it had a larger battery.
Apple launched a new OS in 2007 which, despite its issues, still did enough new and innovative things compared to the competition that people were willing to overlook its early problems. BlackBerry tried this in 2013 when the competition was incredibly fierce and competitive, it didn't help that BlackBerry already had a reputation for releasing unfinished/early products that needed software or hardware updates to compete (Storm, Torch, PlayBook, etc).
Edit: For context,
https://forums.crackberry.com/blackb...0-85-a-776986/12-19-17 12:00 PMLike 0
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