BB10 devices quietly removed from blackberry.com
- They have stopped producing hardware for a while, which leads me to no surprise at all. In fact, the fact that they have just stopped listing BB10 devices as I am reading CB really shocks me.
BlackBerry is no longer BlackBerry. Say goodbye to the good old days and let's just buy some ordinary phones instead, but till that day really comes to me, I will just stick to my Passport.
Posted via CB1012-11-17 09:27 AMLike 0 - Was the Passport already committed to somewhere? The production and release of that device came after the Chen era started, but we know from public comments that it was designed before Chen came aboard - so theoretically he could have killed it.12-11-17 09:54 AMLike 0
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- So it looks like BB10 devices have quietly been removed from BlackBerry's website. Previously this link:
https://us.blackberry.com/smartphones
also listed the Passport (and Leap and Priv). Like the DTEKs, BlackBerry would just link to Amazon to purchase.
Now Amazon still has all three devices in stock (via Prime), so it isn't like there isn't inventory.
According to the Web Archive, the site still listed the other devices as recently as December 1st 2017:
https://web.archive.org/web/20171201...om/smartphones
We all knew this was coming, but sad to see BlackBerry so quietly remove it.12-11-17 10:21 AMLike 0 - By 2012, the "corporate smartphone" no longer existed as a separate category. They simply became consumer phones - the same phones as purchased by individuals - managed by MDM software. The most common phone purchased by businesses and government agencies is the iPhone, followed by the Galaxy S. The market that BB once owned (government/corporate/enterprise) largely ceased to exist between 2010 and 2012, between Apple's embrace of enterprise needs (and Samsung's fast follow-on) and BYOD.
There's really no such thing as a profitable low-volume smartphone, outside of (what I consider to be) scam brands like Vertu, which charges thousands of dollars for a run-of-the-mill smartphone in a fancy case - and Vertu isn't doing that great either. But it's *especially* not possible to have a profitable low-volume smartphone *if you have to support its entire OS an ecosystem.* An OS by itself without an ecosystem isn't a commercially viable product - it won't make a profit unless you can convince people to pay several thousand dollars per device or more. And ironically, by constantly over-producing, BB trained its buyers to expect quick discounts which completely undermined any possible profit.
Had things worked out I could see BlackBerry treating BB10 as a small loss leader if it meant their other divisions were profitable as a result. I doubt they've made much money with BB Android but its given their licensing business a real shot at thriving.rayporsche likes this.12-11-17 11:10 AMLike 1 - To silence the nonstop "where is 10.3.3?" spam on every single crackberry front page article.StephanieMaks likes this.12-11-17 01:02 PMLike 1
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When they show Priv on WMC 2015 they didn't even mention it will run Android, why hide? Because if they had reveal it none would had buy BB10 devices before Priv officially announced. Is that right ??
No matter how much you defend BlackBerry of their strategy of hiding and this was right choice to move android and all, they were not fair to their loyal customers who were loyal to them. If they had announced Priv would run android I wouldn't have buy Passport.
And the fact is, only in CB forum we care for BlackBerry and it's phone but in real world it's been dead long time ago.
Posted via CB1012-11-17 01:09 PMLike 0 - To sell lots of inventory of the devices running bb10, was it right when they completely gone to Android, ? It's like fooling your fan base customers like ' Buy BB10 devices we support it but silently we are abundaning it and going android.
When they show Priv on WMC 2015 they didn't even mention it will run Android, why hide? Because if they had reveal it none would had buy BB10 devices before Priv officially announced. Is that right ??
No matter how much you defend BlackBerry of their strategy of hiding and this was right choice to move android and all, they were not fair to their loyal customers who were loyal to them. If they had announced Priv would run android I wouldn't have buy Passport.
And the fact is, only in CB forum we care for BlackBerry and it's phone but in real world it's been dead long time ago.
Posted via CB1012-11-17 01:22 PMLike 0 -
- To sell lots of inventory of the devices running bb10, was it right when they completely gone to Android, ? It's like fooling your fan base customers like ' Buy BB10 devices we support it but silently we are abundaning it and going android.
When they show Priv on WMC 2015 they didn't even mention it will run Android, why hide? Because if they had reveal it none would had buy BB10 devices before Priv officially announced. Is that right ??
No matter how much you defend BlackBerry of their strategy of hiding and this was right choice to move android and all, they were not fair to their loyal customers who were loyal to them. If they had announced Priv would run android I wouldn't have buy Passport.
And the fact is, only in CB forum we care for BlackBerry and it's phone but in real world it's been dead long time ago.
Posted via CB10
Jul 3, 2015:
https://www.zdnet.com/google-amp/art...ndroid-slider/
Aug 19, 2015:
https://www.cnet.com/news/blackberry...s-in-november/
Aug 20, 2015:
https://www.androidcentral.com/andro...ting-look-real
If you weren't aware BlackBerry was struggling with BB10 by 2014, you were living under a rock.
Apr 10, 2014:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/blac...says-1.2605287
BB10 development was stagnant since April 2014 with the release of the 10.3.X beta. Only minor iterations of features and bug fixes since then.
They weren't abandoning BB10 to go to Android - they were ABANDONING BB10 PERIOD!
Passport was going to be the last BB10 device EVER - no matter what.Last edited by conite; 12-11-17 at 02:27 PM.
12-11-17 01:45 PMLike 0 - To sell lots of inventory of the devices running bb10, was it right when they completely gone to Android, ? It's like fooling your fan base customers like ' Buy BB10 devices we support it but silently we are abundaning it and going android.
When they show Priv on WMC 2015 they didn't even mention it will run Android, why hide? Because if they had reveal it none would had buy BB10 devices before Priv officially announced. Is that right ??
No matter how much you defend BlackBerry of their strategy of hiding and this was right choice to move android and all, they were not fair to their loyal customers who were loyal to them. If they had announced Priv would run android I wouldn't have buy Passport.
And the fact is, only in CB forum we care for BlackBerry and it's phone but in real world it's been dead long time ago.
Posted via CB1012-11-17 01:59 PMLike 0 - Us shareholders are happy with the BlackBerry company now.. BB10 had to die so our money could live. Worth a tradeoff all day long.12-11-17 02:02 PMLike 0
- We knew before the Passport SE was released that the Priv was Android.
Jul 3, 2015:
https://www.zdnet.com/google-amp/art...ndroid-slider/
Aug 19, 2015:
https://www.cnet.com/news/blackberry...s-in-november/
Aug 20, 2015:
https://www.androidcentral.com/andro...ting-look-real
If you weren't aware BlackBerry was struggling with BB10 by 2014, you were living under a rock.
Apr 10, 2014:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/blac...says-1.2605287
BB10 development was stagnant since April 2014 with the release of the 10.3.X beta. Only minor iterations of features and bug fixes since then.
They weren't abandoning BB10 to go to Android - they were ABANDONING BB10 PERIOD!
Passport was going to be the last BB10 device EVER - no matter what.
Posted with my trusty Z1012-11-17 02:29 PMLike 0 - They have stopped producing hardware for a while, which leads me to no surprise at all. In fact, the fact that they have just stopped listing BB10 devices as I am reading CB really shocks me.
BlackBerry is no longer BlackBerry. Say goodbye to the good old days and let's just buy some ordinary phones instead, but till that day really comes to me, I will just stick to my Passport.
Posted via CB1012-11-17 02:53 PMLike 0 -
- 12-11-17 03:01 PMLike 0
- Without revenue from BIS, BBOS devices were barely breaking even. Apparently they believed that increased revenue from BlackBerry World would overcome the loss of BIS, but the public had already made up its mind by 2013.12-11-17 03:21 PMLike 0
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Replacing BIS revenue was always going to be difficult for BlackBerry IMO. I'm sure they had a plan at launch for an ideal scenario.12-11-17 04:33 PMLike 0 -
chen ruined the company we loved. f the shareholders. do what you know and do it well or dont bother. capitalism killed the company.
Posted via CBX12-11-17 05:00 PMLike 0 - 12-11-17 05:01 PMLike 0
- if fender was going bankrupt and they hired chen, and he had them stop making guitars and get into fidget spinners...would he be hailed as a hero?
chen ruined the company we loved. f the shareholders. do what you know and do it well or dont bother. capitalism killed the company.
Posted via CBXeshropshire likes this.12-11-17 05:05 PMLike 1
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