Argh!! Stupid IT department forcing me to stop using my business Passport
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Posted with a BlackBerry Q10, Australia04-09-15 02:14 AMLike 0 -
Posted via CB10 on the President Underwood version of the BlackBerry ClassicsentimentGX4 likes this.04-09-15 02:23 AMLike 1 - Not very happy, but IT says i am one of two people in the company still using a Blackberry. They claim that to renew the server will cost $4K. So, I've got to decide which android or IPhone will best match my business needs. Seems like the LG G3 accepts an SD card, replaceable battery and has a USB port.
I know we are all prejudiced again the consumer phones, but I need guidance as to the best out of these inferior phones.
I guess I'll be selling my unlocked Passport as I have a second one for my personal use.
PM me if you are interested.
Posted via CB1004-09-15 05:22 AMLike 0 -
that's valid when you have android app for that particular mdm running.
http://forums.crackberry.com/general...es-how-982633/Last edited by yessuz; 04-09-15 at 06:35 AM.
Thunderbuck likes this.04-09-15 05:31 AMLike 1 - This whole situation is really messed up. What is the point of having a BYOD EMM that doesn't support BB10 - hell I didn't know they even existed.
Just out of interest, could someone please give me a few examples of EMM solutions that do not support BB10 devices (or have limited functionality compared with both Apple and Android handsets).
As a business owner, there is no way I would even consider implementing and paying for an EMM solution that didn't support all three majors (Like BES12) and then ask my employees to BYOD - that in my opinion defeats the whole purpose.
The other question I want to know is that with these BYOD companies, what services exactly are you allowed on your device? Is it simply email, contacts and calendar management or do you get access to server drives as well?
My business is small (22 employees), I have no IT staff as I quite enjoy administering everything myself and I'm also a control freak. If something goes wrong, I have corporate subscriptions to same-day technical support so if there is something that I can't deal with there is always someone to help.
Storm 2 > Bold 9900 > Classic04-09-15 06:30 AMLike 3 - This whole situation is really messed up. What is the point of having a BYOD EMM that doesn't support BB10 - hell I didn't know they even existed.
Just out of interest, could someone please give me a few examples of EMM solutions that do not support BB10 devices (or have limited functionality compared with both Apple and Android handsets).
As a business owner, there is no way I would even consider implementing and paying for an EMM solution that didn't support all three majors (Like BES12) and then ask my employees to BYOD - that in my opinion defeats the whole purpose.
The other question I want to know is that with these BYOD companies, what services exactly are you allowed on your device? Is it simply email, contacts and calendar management or do you get access to server drives as well?
My business is small (22 employees), I have no IT staff as I quite enjoy administering everything myself and I'm also a control freak. If something goes wrong, I have corporate subscriptions to same-day technical support so if there is something that I can't deal with there is always someone to help.
Storm 2 > Bold 9900 > ClassicSoulstream likes this.04-09-15 06:47 AMLike 1 - My firm still has a few people on the old BES but they are anxious to get rid of it. We went with Mobile Iron, which does not support BB10. I got a dispensation. I get to use a Z30 through active sync.
Ironically using a BlackBerry, I am the only one on an unmanaged device.
Posted via CB10MarsupilamiX likes this.04-09-15 06:56 AMLike 1 -
Well, almost nobody uses BB10 even in the enterprise space. BB10 is not the "third major" mobile OS.MarsupilamiX likes this.04-09-15 07:50 AMLike 1 - My firm still has a few people on the old BES but they are anxious to get rid of it. We went with Mobile Iron, which does not support BB10. I got a dispensation. I get to use a Z30 through active sync.
Ironically using a BlackBerry, I am the only one on an unmanaged device.
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That being said other BB loyalists were allowed to use Active Sync as I'm not sure they even know about the BB10 version yet. It isn't so much the security they find any better but the level of control. So if they lose the device or just misplace it with active sync it's an all or nothing scenario whereby you will lose all personal data and some IT departments might not agree to your waiver but if you are fine with that condition, you may be able to get them to accept Active Sync without an MDM.Thunderbuck likes this.04-09-15 08:38 AMLike 1 -
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- I'd suggest posting your request for advice over at Android Forums at AndroidCentral.com. Your MobileNations passport makes you a member there as well. Give your criteria and I'm sure you'll get some guidance.
And when you're ready to sell/trade your Passport, do so in the Market Place. The Marketplace - Buy, Sell & Trade - BlackBerry Forums at CrackBerry.com
You could even post it as a "Want to Trade" on AC's Market Place, for an Android device.
PassportSQW100-1 / 10.3.1.2708 Rogers Wireless04-09-15 09:59 AMLike 0 - This whole situation is really messed up. What is the point of having a BYOD EMM that doesn't support BB10 - hell I didn't know they even existed.
Just out of interest, could someone please give me a few examples of EMM solutions that do not support BB10 devices (or have limited functionality compared with both Apple and Android handsets).
As a business owner, there is no way I would even consider implementing and paying for an EMM solution that didn't support all three majors (Like BES12) and then ask my employees to BYOD - that in my opinion defeats the whole purpose.
The other question I want to know is that with these BYOD companies, what services exactly are you allowed on your device? Is it simply email, contacts and calendar management or do you get access to server drives as well?
My business is small (22 employees), I have no IT staff as I quite enjoy administering everything myself and I'm also a control freak. If something goes wrong, I have corporate subscriptions to same-day technical support so if there is something that I can't deal with there is always someone to help.
Storm 2 > Bold 9900 > Classic04-09-15 11:12 AMLike 3 - Tell your IT department to scrap the BES and forget about spending that money. BB10 devices DO NOT REQUIRE BES to operate on your corporate network. Email can be set up via ActiveSync, which is exactly how Android, iOS and WindowsPhone devices connect to the corporate email server. I've been using my Q10 with two employers via activesync and have perfect email, contacts and calendar sync just like my ipad and my galaxy tablet. All 3 on activesync.
If people can use Android and iOS, you can just as easily use your Passport. All via Activesync. I would be willing to be that your IT guy is still under the assumption that BES is required for any Blackberry (which was true with all BB's prior to BB10 smartphones. BOTTOM LINE - KEEP YOUR PASSPORT AND GIVE YOUR IT GUY A LITTLE LESSON ON IT.
How to Connect a BlackBerry 10 Smartphone Directly to your Mail Servers Using ActiveSync | Inside BlackBerry for Business Blog
KB33619-Supported Microsoft ActiveSync Features and Policies for use with BlackBerry 10 OSdolco likes this.04-09-15 11:25 AMLike 1 - I appreciate all the guidance. I'll ask about Activesynch. They have refused to provide me with Blackeberrys. First, I bought a Z10, then a Z30, and now the passport. We do share calendars using Outlook and corporate email contacts. I cannot imagine that requires BES.
They will buy me whichever Android I want.But ..... I don't want one.
My company said only iPhone and Android too, no other support. And people ask me how I have my Passport working. I tell them get a Blackberry next time it is set up the same way as everyone else's iPhone and Android, just better for communications in every way.
BTW I'm an Sr IT Manager so they just so happen to trust what I say and I've converted a couple to the Black side
If Activesync...just get a BB10 and ignore the stupid policies.04-09-15 11:34 AMLike 2 -
- 04-09-15 11:40 AMLike 2
- I assume you aren't getting work emails on your Passport now, or is it via BES10 or BES12? As others have stated, ActiveSync works great if they don't want to maintain a BES, but BES12 is dirt cheap with no server-side costs other than the cost of a Windows Server license on a virtual machine and using some resources. An annual license is like $25 a year.
I'm in IT, and I can confirm that most IT people are lazy. Some of us are helpful though, but it sometimes also comes down to their management imposing restrictions.04-09-15 12:17 PMLike 0 - if they are using Mobileiron Activesync will not likely be opened to the internet. It will be only available using connections to the mobileiron sentry appliance.
I agree with the others about trying the android client.04-09-15 01:29 PMLike 0
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