Why Do I have Different Browsers?..ie WAP,Internet,WiFi
- Bla1zeCB OGI found this while perusing the Developers Conference Blog, a lot of new users have trouble understanding what all the browsers are for, so here is a break down.
5 browser names and their various aliases:
- BlackBerry Browser (�Corporate MDS�, �MDS�, �Enterprise�)
- Internet Browser (�Public MDS�, �BIS-B�)
- WAP Browser
- Hotspot Browser (�Wi-Fi Browser�)
- Unite Browser
- Only available if device is connected to a BES at your company
- All traffic goes through the MDS-CS component of your company�s BES server
- Can access resources inside your company�s firewall, such as intranets and desktop PCs
- However, it�s also restricted by that same same firewall, just like the PC at your desk
- All of the other browsers are outside the firewall
- Virtually every device has this browser; no corporate BES connection or email setup required
- All traffic goes through one of a few MDS-CS servers hosted by RIM
- Sometimes requires that an APN be setup in order to work (on GSM networks)
- All traffic goes through the WAP gateway hosted by the carrier
- This is the only route where no RIM-owned servers or RIM-produced software are used during communication
- WAP gateways vary from carrier to carrier, making problems often difficult to resolve
- No MDS-CS present to perform content optimization; entire web page is sent to the device
- Uses Wi-Fi network to route traffic
- Sometimes goes through the BES�s MDS-CS and sometimes just on the local network
- Device setup makes this route somewhat unpredictable
- Generally very fast throughput, making pages load more quickly than all other browsers
- All traffic goes through the MDS-CS server running on the Unite server on your home computer
- The web page won�t load
- web site is inside the firewall and you�re not using the BlackBerry Browser
- web site is blocked by your company�s firewall and you are using the BlackBerry Browser
- web site is carrier-specific and you�re not using the WAP Browser
- web site is hosted on your home PC and you�re not using the Unite browser
- Far more data than required may be downloaded
- when data flows through MDS-CS it is optimized for the device, including reducing image sizes, compressing text, and optimizing the HTML DOM tree
- using the WAP Browser the entire web page must be downloaded, even if images are 30x the size of the screen
- Slow page rendering
- data flowing through MDS-CS also undergoes optimization, such as pre-compiling JavaScript and modifying the HTML layout for a smaller screen size, increasing layout speeds
- using WAP Browser forces the device to do this work, which takes longer
- Larger financial cost
- since more data is transmitted when using WAP, plans that pay per megabyte will be more expensive
- Wi-Fi is generally free, so using it instead of cellular network saves money as well
10-21-08 07:45 PMLike 0 -
- 10-21-08 10:42 PMLike 0
- Bla1zeCB OG
The Rogers APN is..
internet.com
User: Blank
Pass: Blank
You can access it by going to Settings/Options/Advanced Options/TCP, but in most cases it's no longer needed on the rogers network, I have 12 apps on my bold, none of which need it, as most will auto configure it and Rogers assigns it to your device anyways it's transparent to you.10-22-08 02:42 AMLike 0 -
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- Ok, all interesting.
I have better internet access with
APN internet
User blank
Pass blank
while Tmobile says it should be 3 times blank.
In Options/ Adv Options/ Browsers I find:
Default browser configuration: t-zones or web-n-walk browser
Default MDS browser conf: (only choise) web-n-walk browser
Default WAP browser conf: (only choise) t-zones
What is all that about then?
And what does the Opera Mini use then?10-22-08 09:48 AMLike 0 -
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- Hello,
I'm a brand new blackberry/crackberry user/member. I don't know if this has been addressed in another post, but I have Rogers service and no data plan on my Blackberry as I use my laptop to surf. I was hoping that since the Bold had WiFi I'd be able to use it without having to be routed through Rogers service. I've also set up the connection to my wireless Sympatico router while at home.
How can I configure this as Rogers Blackberry IT advised it was but they couldn't tell me how... other than to use data without my SIM card loaded. My Bold is unlocked btw.
Thanks.. will be studying a lot on here as time permits!Last edited by sueberry9000; 10-22-08 at 09:20 PM. Reason: missed info
10-22-08 09:17 PMLike 0 - ===
Hotspot Browser
* Uses Wi-Fi network to route traffic
...
* Generally very fast throughput, making pages load more quickly than all other browsers
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WiFi connects fine for me but still uses the 'Internet Browser' config not "WiFi/Hotspot Browser" config, unless I manually disable the carrier connection.
However I find a disadvange of the "WiFi/Hotspot Browser" (when I force it on) is *because* it doesn't use RIM servers as a proxy to reduce the amount of data sent and the other clever stuff, as a result I find the "WiFi/Hotspot Browser" *slower* even though the underlying connection is faster, as the BB spends so long processing all that extra data and rendering the pages.Last edited by wibblyw; 11-06-08 at 07:27 AM.
11-06-08 07:24 AMLike 0 -
- Hiya
I blindly bought a Blackberry 9000 (Bold) from owning an N95, not realising it introduced a whole different ball game as far as internet access was required. Unfortunately, I just looked at phone spec's and did not investigate how it works etc so did not even know about the need to purchase a blackberry call plan (I'm with Orange, and they didn't tell me a thing about call plans). I am not wi fi capable on my pc yet (will change shortly) and am completely ignorant about a lot of the information I need to know to decide whether its worth keeping my blackberry.
I am still waiting to register my phone on the blackberry.orange site and have been unable to get opera mini installed on my phone - can't find the darn 'accept' button on the terms and conditions (honest, I have looked and looked, suspect its due to the fact that I have limited net capabilities because my phone is as yet not net capable while waiting to be able to register on the blackberry.orange site.
Obviously i need to learn how to use my phone properly asap to make a decision and wonder if anyone has any links to any sites with information for newbies to the blackberry set up. Am working my way thru this site but am finding I am often more mystified when I finish an article than I was before I read it due to my lack of technical know how.
Don't misunderstand me, I am prepared to work at it but am handicapped by my complete newbieness lol.11-13-08 02:15 AMLike 0 - You are off topic but you can start from below:
New Users Guide to CrackBerry.com | CrackBerry.com
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http://forums.crackberry.com/f3/11-13-08 02:19 AMLike 0 - Sorry for the mis posting (multi-tasking and stressed). Thank u for that Blackberry 101 link.., working thru it now and its exactly what I was looking for but didn't find somehow. Beginning to wonder if I have forgotten everything I've ever known about the net lolol.11-13-08 02:55 AMLike 0
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