05-27-12 04:05 PM
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  1. joeldf's Avatar
    Back in '07, when my wife and I both got our Pearl 8100s, I had all of 1 BBM contact - my wife.

    Two years later, she got the iPhone 3G, and I went down by one contact.

    So that's what I'm left with to this day - 0.
    05-23-12 10:14 AM
  2. anon(1723145)'s Avatar
    BBM did seem to drop off quickly for me as well... I went from over 25 BBM contacts to under 5!
    05-23-12 01:06 PM
  3. Chrisy's Avatar
    Don't worry, they'll be back!

    As a side note ill not use text again until they lower the price. $20/month for unlimited is a rip off!
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    05-23-12 01:20 PM
  4. jmb12177's Avatar
    Lol, I think it is kind of funny, I have never had more than 5 bbm contacts, and where I live, I don't know anyone that has a blackberry

    Sent from my 9810 using Tapatalk
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    05-23-12 02:48 PM
  5. Spencerdl's Avatar
    WOW....I'm embarassed when I read people with 50+ BBM contacts. The most I've ever had at one time was 15, now I'm down to 11. I find that most of my communication is done through SMS(text).....my friends/family/assosiates have many different types of devices, however I did lose 4 BBM contacts this year
    05-23-12 02:59 PM
  6. 416to604's Avatar
    50 bbm contacts for me, 4 groups. a few have defected to other platforms recently and a few have returned.
    05-23-12 05:18 PM
  7. MOTH477's Avatar
    Don't worry, they'll be back!

    As a side note ill not use text again until they lower the price. $20/month for unlimited is a rip off!
    How about using Whatsapp? Does Kik Messenger work on BB?
    05-23-12 05:58 PM
  8. OniBerry's Avatar
    I think most BB users have whatsapp or some other 3rd party xplatform IM installed. I know awhile back, RIM booted Kik from app world, but I think you can still install OTA.

    I use Trillian and Crunchsms as my 'other' messengers.
    05-23-12 06:16 PM
  9. ewakil12's Avatar
    I had 190 contacts, now I have 124, they're leaving everyday
    05-23-12 07:10 PM
  10. GeneralTech's Avatar
    Ive lost 6 contacts this year, but iphones are omnipresent here in canada. The thing with blackberries is that it was a fashion item for a long time, a lot of people who owned blackberries didnt actually have bbm service not because they could not afford it but a lot of adults in their late 30's and up simply wanted to be up to date with the latest tech but had no real use for bbm. I think those folks started switching first when their contracts were done. But you also have a lot of folks upgrading from dumbphones as well. Its the only things i can think of to explain the ubiquity of iphones vs the low rate of exodus from my bbm list. But they said on the news that iphone overtook bb's for the first time in sales a few months ago.

    In many markets mobile internet is either too expensive for users or underdeveloped. So the finer points of Items like iphones and androids are harder to take advantage of sometimes impossible. The nice thing about bb service is that people in a lot of poorer markets can afford blackberry service and can keep in contact with family and friends around the planet instantly, which is much better than waiting weeks or months to afford to make long distance calls.
    05-23-12 08:03 PM
  11. Plazmic Flame's Avatar
    I'll be back when they release a 9900 device with BB10. You can add me OP.
    05-23-12 09:22 PM
  12. Master_of_Karate_and_Friendship's Avatar
    I have about 80, had about 125 before. The "people that matter" remained though...
    05-23-12 09:33 PM
  13. Anthooo's Avatar
    I just got back on BB. So I don't have any friends yet. So mine can only grow, My question is how do I find people of similar interests who have BBM?

    Sent from my BlackBerry 9930 using Tapatalk
    05-23-12 10:11 PM
  14. OniBerry's Avatar
    I just got back on BB. So I don't have any friends yet. So mine can only grow, My question is how do I find people of similar interests who have BBM?

    Sent from my BlackBerry 9930 using Tapatalk
    You can start here

    05-23-12 10:19 PM
  15. tchocky77's Avatar
    So what we can take from this thread is that hardly anyone can consider BBM as a selling point for RIM. Do they even promote it much anymore? I mean,.....the playbook can't even handle BBM can it?
    05-23-12 10:43 PM
  16. ny1979's Avatar
    cross platform bbm maybe????
    05-23-12 10:58 PM
  17. tchocky77's Avatar
    Seems logical from RIM's POV. The problem is, what's in it for Apple or Android? Their users aren't short of message contacts.

    EDITED to add this article from the WSJ that popped up in my Google News feed literally just now. LOL



    Research In Motion Ltd. RIMM +0.27% may have lost its dominance in the global smartphone market, but its instant-messaging service is still widely popular around the world.

    Now even that strong suit is threatening to weaken as world-wide sales of BlackBerrys falter and RIM softens efforts to leverage the messaging tool.

    Teenagers still embrace BlackBerry Messenger, or BBM, for its quick and free instant messaging, and its easy-to-use contact list of friends. Security professionals—police, firefighters and ambulance drivers—have come to rely on it as one of the most dependable forms of electronic communications. There are more than 55 million BBM users today, up more than tenfold from the 5.3 million users in January 2009, according to RIM.

    In that same time frame, RIM's share of the U.S. smartphone market has dropped from more than 50% to less than 10%, according to research firm IDC. As BlackBerry users flock to Apple Inc.'s AAPL +2.44% iPhone and devices powered by Google Inc.'s GOOG +1.44% Android, they are also disappearing from the BBM contact list of their friends. That makes the service less useful, one dropped contact at a time.

    Kady Hadesman, a 17-year-old BlackBerry user from Franklin, Mich., said she used to have over 100 BBM contacts, whom she messaged frequently to chat about school and gossip.

    Now, she complains, "my [BBM contact] list is at 26."

    RIM's Sales Chief Exits

    At the same time, a three-day RIM network outage across much of the world last fall has shaken confidence in BBM's reliability. The service is also up against a host of new competitors, such as Apple's iMessage and popular third-party messaging tools like WhatsApp Messenger, which can be used from most devices.

    Any bigger push by RIM to leverage BBM, however, is taking a back seat to Chief Executive Thorsten Heins' focus on pushing out the company's new phone and operating system later this year, according to people familiar with the situation. A RIM spokeswoman said the company declined to comment.

    That is a big shift from just a couple of months ago, when senior RIM executives were scrambling to figure out a way to capitalize on the popularity of the BBM service, these people said.

    Executives came up with a specific BBM strategy that aimed to open up RIM's proprietary network to other smartphone markers and carriers and license BBM as a service that could be used on a wide variety of devices including iPhones and Android phones, according to these people. The project was unofficially called "SMS 2.0" within the company, these people said.

    While some within the company worried that licensing BBM to competitors would further diminish any incentive to buy a BlackBerry, others saw the project as a brand-recognition driver that would help the company stay relevant until its next line of phones launched.

    RIM acquired a fast-growing New York-based messaging company called LiveProfile late last year as part of this strategy, according to people with knowledge of the deal. The small transaction wasn't publicly disclosed. LiveProfile executives didn't respond to requests to comment.

    But after RIM's two longtime chiefs, Mike Lazaridis and Jim Balsillie, stepped down in January, Mr. Heins, their handpicked successor, ended the BBM push, these people said. He decided RIM shouldn't pursue licensing deals in general.

    "It was not up for discussion," one person familiar with the matter said.

    BBM will appear on coming BlackBerry 10 phones, but RIM hasn't revealed any changes to the service.

    Still, RIM isn't letting BBM fall by the wayside. Recently, the company launched a new BlackBerry model in India with a dedicated BBM key, a first for the company. Last month, the company rolled out several new applications that allow users to access and link to popular social network sites like Twitter and Foursquare from withinthe BBMservice.

    A handful of third-party messenger services are crowding the market, each trying to differentiate themselves from platform-specific tools like BBM. The most popular, according to app downloading tracker AppAnnie, is WhatsApp. The start-up declined to provide user numbers, but it has been at or the near the top of app downloads for over a year now.

    Another popular app is Touch, formerly called PingChat,an offering from parent company Enflick,also based in Canada, which started out as a simple messenger but is now trying to branch out into broader media communications. Italready has several million users.

    The difference between all these tools is negligible. Some offer a free model and are testing out advertising schemes. Others, like WhatsApp, require a one-time sign-up fee and then provide ad-free messaging.

    "I would say right now BBM is still number one (in the messaging space) just by virtue of being around longest," said Gartner analyst Michael Gartenberg. "The question now is what is RIM going to do with this? Can they maintain this as a defensible position, especially when others catch on?"
    Last edited by tchocky77; 05-23-12 at 11:46 PM.
    05-23-12 11:33 PM
  18. mas90guru's Avatar
    Interesting about LiveProfile acquisition.

    Also when the article talks about downplaying BBM my guess is that they mean all those really awkward interactions where you have to authorize BBM interaction 3x or 4x.

    And BB Music is a great concept - I'm sure they tried it to see if they could make the BBM experience "stickier" however in practice I find it's a race to share with the most strangers who are subscribers. It didn't do anything to hold me as a BB Music subscribers as I found the fee of $4.99 and awkward interface to not be competitive with other services.
    05-24-12 06:05 AM
  19. JtothaR's Avatar
    I am back on BB after a 2 year mistake called AnDroid. During the time I was off BB several people I knew who were BBM users also switched away from BB. So when I returned (thank God for my stroke of genius decision to return) there were fewer folks to connect on BBM with.
    How long have you been back for? I tried switching back (out of nostalgia for the good ol' days, 7290 and 8700 in particular) back in late 09'.

    It quickly became painfully obvious how crippled the BB OS was by comparison to other platforms (even iOS, which itself is crippled by comparison to Android).

    I only lasted three months - and the last two were spent in an "End of an Era" state of mourning for what was once a great platform. Like the fall of Rome, Lol. Then I purchased the Nexus One and never looked at BB again.

    I still hope they can re-capture that magic with BB10, but I wouldn't call it on your exit from Android just yet unless you switched back over a year ago, and have already been able to ignore the differences.
    05-24-12 11:06 AM
  20. Rob1's Avatar
    Don't worry, they'll be back!
    Keep dreaming.......
    05-24-12 11:55 AM
  21. kingbernie06511's Avatar
    RIM has been treating its customer base like garbage by making them use unpolished, enterprise-ready (Curves 8XXX) phones running second grade hardware (BB7), dated software at best (BB6,7), buggy software (Storms).

    Unless messaging is on top of your priorities (and the sole one), not a single RIM phone can stand the comparison with current gen iphone or 2/3 of Android phones since the original bold 9000, maybe 9700.

    Customers have been running for the hills with other platforms at the end of their contracts. Funny, things started to look bleak for RIM in 2011, 2y after their record 2 for 1 Curve 8XXX sales in US, an enterprise phone with no customer-required polish, bundled in a 2 y contract....

    you harvest what you seed.
    Last edited by kingbernie06511; 05-24-12 at 12:55 PM.
    05-24-12 12:08 PM
  22. itsyaboy's Avatar
    Had about 70 contacts, 10 of which were used on a daily basis. Now I have 32 and of that number only 5 contacts are messaged frequently. I find this to be very disappointing. BBM is a superior messaging service! The only plus of Whatsapp is their cross-platform availability. If it was not cross-platform I would never use it!
    05-24-12 01:39 PM
  23. big bb's Avatar
    for every 1 BBM contact that I have lost i gain between 10 and 15 contacts, i have lost 3 in the last year but have gain 42.
    and the 42 are all people that i have known and got BlackBerrys not know people i have meant that have BlackBerrys
    05-24-12 01:51 PM
  24. soren203's Avatar
    I had a 140 down to 72, probably less because a lot of them are dead but I haven't bothered to clean them out.
    05-24-12 04:04 PM
  25. Nashstruck's Avatar
    Was above 100 at one point. Now down to 90. But many moving off within the next 6 months. I suspect I'll be down to 30 by the end of the year. No joke.
    05-24-12 04:59 PM
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