- This is a bad move long term. Short term good to help revenue.
Posted from my awesome Q10Shadowyugi likes this.03-29-14 02:04 AMLike 1 -
- The OS 10 IS undoubtly the better OS.But all the OS7-creatures of habit ruin BlackBerry future... Its like to avoid travelling by plane cause the company doesnt offer propeller driven planes....03-29-14 02:36 AMLike 4
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sent from my bright red Nexus 5Last edited by cgk; 03-29-14 at 06:44 AM. Reason: typo = except
03-29-14 03:01 AMLike 2 - I don't know about others, but all I wanted was a Blackberry Curve or Bold a few months back...and nobody was carrying them anymore. Blackberry restarting it makes me a bit happy...honestly I think BB7 is for corporate people and BB10 is for "regular" consumers.
I think both can co-exist...BB7 is all you really need if you run a business. I would be going back to the Bold line up if I wasn't able to get the Q5 for lower than $200 and almost went with a Samsung phone because of the stupidly high prices.
Marketing and costs are the biggest barriers. People don't see the Z and Q line ups as money being well spent. Negative press hurts BADLY as well...4 of my friends went to Android simply because of the negative news of Blackberry.Last edited by AdventSign; 03-29-14 at 04:08 AM.
03-29-14 03:09 AMLike 4 - 03-29-14 04:32 AMLike 0
- I do not understand Chen or his strategy. How many consumers thought that the 9900 was out of production ? Why even make an announcement ? The 9900 is an OK phone but only if you just use the phone to email ,text and make calls. My thoughts are if they want to continue to sell this phone then they should give the consumer some value. A bigger battery, better camera and a browser that is not lagging.
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Then gradually came the obsession with apps. People no longer content to use the search feature...but had to have an app. The google app store started to explode with hundreds of each app. Then youngsters found BBM. It all went downhill from there.
The low memory legacy phones were never designed for the app revolution....and although BBM became the cult the devices couldn't handle all the apps....so lowered memory and the famous little black clock. Now most can only remember the lag, the spinning clock.
Many people want a phone for email, phone, messaging. That's it. The outright leader in this field is Blackberry.
For those who literally want 'mobile computing' BB10 is awesome for that. For those who need a communicator the legacy can't be beaten.
My curve 9320 was well over a year old when Blackberry gave me my Z10. ....and it was still perfect. I never saw the spinning clock. I maintained it weekly, used it for communication.....occasionally jumping onto FB or Twitter when away from home. But as my communication debice it couldn't be beaten.
And the end of this ramble is that.....not everyone wants or needs a phone that will replace their PC. Some just need a legacy device.03-29-14 06:27 AMLike 2 - You are crazy
I can only think this is a stop gap solution, they have to support bb7 until it becomes unpopular and sales drop. In the long term they can't support to OS's, so bb7 will give way at some stage.
Composed with my bb7+ device, aka the Q10.
Posted on CB10 with the Q10acovey likes this.03-29-14 06:47 AMLike 1 - I am so blown away by the fact that they are still selling more legacy devices than BB10.... That is crazy.......I am not sure how they should react to that.... Does that say that the legacy phones are amazing or that BB10 sucks???? I do miss my bold but am still happy with my Z3003-29-14 06:51 AMLike 0
- You are crazy
I can only think this is a stop gap solution, they have to support bb7 until it becomes unpopular and sales drop. In the long term they can't support to OS's, so bb7 will give way at some stage.
Composed with my bb7+ device, aka the Q10.
Posted on CB10 with the Q10
I'm sure the initial plan thought BB7 will become unpopular and it sort of did, problem is the BB10 is even more unpopular.
#believeinfilm03-29-14 07:32 AMLike 0 - one thing about consumerism that smart companies know- you can't please every market. but by continuing production of the Bold, as planned and per agreement that BB had w/ the manufacturing company, they not only supply a demand but they also honor a business agreement. there is nothing wrong w/ having two OS platforms, and while there will still be unhappy confused people who complain and question it (as if they're being forced to use both) this strategy has a better chance at pleasing more of the markets that BB services than NOT doing it. Let Chen do his job. Even if the return of the bold doesn't mean new updates for OS7 legacy devices, as Chen has already officially stated, it adds to the encouragement that OS 7 WILL continue to be supported indefinitely. So you don't like the return of the bold ? okay, then don't get one.. problem solved.
Sent from my BlackBerry 9350acovey likes this.03-29-14 07:57 AMLike 1 -
Posted via my Nexus 10.coldRooster likes this.03-29-14 08:03 AMLike 1 - kbz1960Doesn't MatterI am so blown away by the fact that they are still selling more legacy devices than BB10.... That is crazy.......I am not sure how they should react to that.... Does that say that the legacy phones are amazing or that BB10 sucks???? I do miss my bold but am still happy with my Z3003-29-14 08:05 AMLike 0
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The issue with BB10 IMO is that 1) most general consumers gave up on Blackberry in 2011 and 2012 and no longer pay attention to Blackberry and 2) most people aren't aware BB10 exists, in large part because of #1.03-29-14 08:22 AMLike 2 - The thing is the legacy devices may be selling better but they still are not being bought by new customers. They are upgrades from existing customers that don't want to move to BB10. Seems BB10 isn't bringing many new customers either. Not good either way but I would think BB10 has more time to gain traction than an old OS that has been stagnant for years already.
#believeinfilm03-29-14 08:24 AMLike 0 - one thing about consumerism that smart companies know- you can't please every market. but by continuing production of the Bold, as planned and per agreement that BB had w/ the manufacturing company, they not only supply a demand but they also honor a business agreement. there is nothing wrong w/ having two OS platforms, and while there will still be unhappy confused people who complain and question it (as if they're being forced to use both) this strategy has a better chance at pleasing more of the markets that BB services than NOT doing it. Let Chen do his job. Even if the return of the bold doesn't mean new updates for OS7 legacy devices, as Chen has already officially stated, it adds to the encouragement that OS 7 WILL continue to be supported indefinitely. So you don't like the return of the bold ? okay, then don't get one.. problem solved.
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Having said that, Blackberry's approach reminds me of what Atari did back in the 1980s in the video game industry. During the latter half of that decade, they supported both the new 7800 system and the legacy 2600 system (and even made the 7800 backwards compatible with the 2600). However, it ultimately didn't matter because Nintendo overwhelmed them with the NES because that system had most of the games (apps) people wanted. (In some European and South American markets, it was Sega, with its Sega Master System, that "won" the Nintendo vs Sega vs Atari battle in the late 1980s.) During the period when Atari "led" the market (i.e. the very late 1970s and early 1980s), it didn't do enough to advance the market. As a result, many consumers were turned off and looked elsewhere when attractive alternatives presented themselves.Shadowyugi likes this.03-29-14 08:33 AMLike 1 - Even though I think it is dumb for Blackberry to continue supporting BB7, the above comment is a reasonable point.
Having said that, Blackberry's approach reminds me of what Atari did back in the 1980s in the video game industry. During the latter half of that decade, they supported both the new 7800 system and the legacy 2600 system (and even made the 7800 backwards compatible with the 2600). However, it ultimately didn't matter because Nintendo overwhelmed them with the NES because that system had most of the games (apps) people wanted. (In some European and South American markets, it was Sega, with its Sega Master System, that "won" the Nintendo vs Sega vs Atari battle in the late 1980s.)03-29-14 08:42 AMLike 0 -
Posted via 10.3 on Verizon03-29-14 08:52 AMLike 2 - I do not understand Chen or his strategy. How many consumers thought that the 9900 was out of production ? Why even make an announcement ? The 9900 is an OK phone but only if you just use the phone to email ,text and make calls. My thoughts are if they want to continue to sell this phone then they should give the consumer some value. A bigger battery, better camera and a browser that is not lagging.
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If I was BB shareholder I would demand the same from Chen, why are you not making the devices a segment of the market still want? You just cant refuse to sell a product some people still want.03-29-14 08:53 AMLike 2 -
- He made the announcement for the same reason Thor announced "one more BB7 device", to let investors know they have a backup plan to fall on.
If I was BB shareholder I would demand the same from Chen, why are you not making the devices a segment of the market still want? You just cant refuse to sell a product some people still want.
Posted via 10.3 on Verizon03-29-14 08:56 AMLike 3 - Blackberry's approach reminds me of what Atari did back in the 1980s in the video game industry. During the latter half of that decade, they supported both the new 7800 system and the legacy 2600 system (and even made the 7800 backwards compatible with the 2600). However, it ultimately didn't matter because Nintendo overwhelmed them with the NES because that system had most of the games (apps) people wanted. (In some European and South American markets, it was Sega, with its Sega Master System, that "won" the Nintendo vs Sega vs Atari battle in the late 1980s.) During the period when Atari "led" the market (i.e. the very late 1970s and early 1980s), it didn't do enough to advance the market. As a result, many consumers were turned off and looked elsewhere when attractive alternatives presented themselves.
I should note people will or already have nostalgia for Palm OS, Symbian, Windows Mobile, iOS, Android, and WP7/8 smartphones, so the "cool afterlife" won't be unique to Blackberry devices.03-29-14 09:01 AMLike 0
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