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  1. dfb8085's Avatar
    Well I guess we are a dieing breed. No more support I guess. I'm glad OS2 for playbook is coming out. It gives me something to play with till later in the year when the new OS 10 devices come out. I been going through withdrawals wanting a new device but I want to skip the OS 7 devices cause they will be without support in a few short more months. I hate to get died down to a 2 year contract and have outdated equipment is a span of 6 months.
    02-07-12 08:41 AM
  2. BigBadWulf's Avatar
    http://forums.crackberry.com/general...ke-os5-692544/

    Besides, the latest OS for your 9800 was just released 8 days ago. Personally, I'd wait for BB10 myself, but not because all prior will stop being supported. That has never been the case with RIM products.
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    02-07-12 01:35 PM
  3. joeldf's Avatar
    Yeah, we're done with getting any real updates in OS 6. Just these minor bug fix updates from time to time.

    I would love for RIM's new management to throw us original OS 6 users who are stuck with these phones for at least the rest of the year a bone. I'd like to see perhaps an OS 6.0.1 that uses the new icon set, has the ability to turn off the trays/panels, and has the new update contact capability. The kinds of things that does not require the fancy new hardware of the new phones.

    But, alas, such new functionality will never he added to an existing OS.

    I know there are themes that can give me the new icons, because I use one such theme now. The tray issue is more problematic with themes as removing the trays also breaks other aspects of the stock UI and brings out the bugs in the Theme Builder. The contact modification thing was shown off back when the previous incarnation of OS 7 was still called OS 6.1, and back when it was actually being tested on the 9800.
    02-12-12 02:07 AM
  4. audio_engr's Avatar
    yeah ... definitely in the books of RIM - we OS 6 guys are done !!

    all we see now are OS builds that I wouldn't ever care to say are bug fixes - rather its a trick the developers at RIM are playing very subtly with shuffling cods & sfi's from multiple OSs to churn out an updated OS (as its in their schedule and they gotta go by it or else someone would have to answers tons of questions to the very senior management).

    ha! - well guess am stuck with this rut till we see OS10, and then its teething problems and in time - hopefully something stable and worthwhile to sink in money again ...
    02-12-12 01:29 PM
  5. BigBadWulf's Avatar
    yeah ... definitely in the books of RIM - we OS 6 guys are done !!

    all we see now are OS builds that I wouldn't ever care to say are bug fixes - rather its a trick the developers at RIM are playing very subtly with shuffling cods & sfi's from multiple OSs to churn out an updated OS (as its in their schedule and they gotta go by it or else someone would have to answers tons of questions to the very senior management).
    I honestly don't know where these ideas come from. Are there examples through every OS series, where a platform doesn't change, or even reverts to an older one? Of course, but find me evidence of what you suggest. Please
    02-12-12 04:46 PM
  6. Ray III's Avatar
    I got an OS6 update just a month or 2 ago that fixed a major problem with Visual Voicemail.

    Changing something in the theme does not require a new release of an operating system.

    OS6 has all of the essential functions to run your phone, other than a lack of flexibility in organizing folders. What would you add to it that will not make it cumbersome, really?
    02-14-12 06:26 AM
  7. joeldf's Avatar
    I got an OS6 update just a month or 2 ago that fixed a major problem with Visual Voicemail.

    Changing something in the theme does not require a new release of an operating system.

    OS6 has all of the essential functions to run your phone, other than a lack of flexibility in organizing folders. What would you add to it that will not make it cumbersome, really?
    Let me repeat myself.

    How about the ability to manage the homescreen panes? How would that be cumbersome?

    How about the ability to add info to an existing contact without having to edit the contact first? Not terribly important, but would be a nice feature. It's simply a menu item that becomes available when you come across a phone number or email address outside of the contacts app and it let's you add that item directly to an existing contact.

    How would that be cumbersome?

    These are all I ask.

    The icons would be nice, but can be handled with a theme change - no big deal there. (Although when RIM updated OS 4.5 to 4.6, the icons got updated to the Precision icons of OS 5).

    Remember, these very items were first shown off in Jan of '11. A mere 5 months after the release of the 9800. It was to be 6.1 and was actually tested on existing phones at the time. This was before the new phones got priority and the OS got bumped to 7 and got bogged down with all the added "liquid graphics", magnetometer, and higher end cpu requirement that is not needed for the few things I'm asking for.
    Last edited by joeldf; 02-14-12 at 11:50 AM.
    02-14-12 11:47 AM
  8. DocDRM's Avatar
    Way off topic, but since we're talking OS6, I've been posting with no response:

    http://forums.crackberry.com/blackbe...yes-no-684231/

    9800, ATT Current Official : 6.0.0.600

    Answer here or there.

    I would like to see that fixed (unless I am missing a setting, or maybe ATT finally releases an update that fixes this, while other carriers have already fixed it - have generally avoided non official OS updates - but I would do it for this functionality)
    02-14-12 02:38 PM
  9. amitabhsh's Avatar
    Yep, looks like OS 6 is done :/
    02-29-12 11:00 AM
  10. BigBadWulf's Avatar
    Yep, looks like OS 6 is done :/
    03-01-12 11:19 AM
  11. Blacklatino's Avatar
    LMAO! But, seriously, if that were true, start utilizing hybrids and your device will be just as responsive as any other device.
    03-01-12 12:38 PM
  12. ssbtech's Avatar
    I would love for RIM's new management to throw us original OS 6 users who are stuck with these phones for at least the rest of the year a bone. I'd like to see perhaps an OS 6.0.1 that uses the new icon set, has the ability to turn off the trays/panels, and has the new update contact capability. The kinds of things that does not require the fancy new hardware of the new phones.
    Do you really need new icons? Do you really need the ability to turn off the panels? Jeez... just move all your icons into one jumbled mess on the "All" panel if that's what you want.
    04-01-12 11:51 PM
  13. joeldf's Avatar
    Do you really need new icons? Do you really need the ability to turn off the panels? Jeez... just move all your icons into one jumbled mess on the "All" panel if that's what you want.
    What kind of silly question is that?

    Do we "need" a compass, or NFC, or GPS, or wifi, or email, or internet access, or a flipping smartphone at all?

    In the grand scheme of things, maybe not. But that's not the point. It's about simple features that help with the user experience. The trays were a complaint against OS 6 from the very begining. If you like them, fine. But don't suggest that those of us that don't like them are somehow idiots.

    I happen to prefer to organize my apps into folders on the main "All" tray. I'd rather not have the homescreen arbitrarily flip to one of the other panels in daily use. Is that okay with you?

    Jeez, indeed.
    04-02-12 04:02 PM
  14. BigBadWulf's Avatar
    What kind of silly question is that?

    Do we "need" a compass, or NFC, or GPS, or wifi, or email, or internet access, or a flipping smartphone at all?

    In the grand scheme of things, maybe not. But that's not the point. It's about simple features that help with the user experience. The trays were a complaint against OS 6 from the very begining. If you like them, fine. But don't suggest that those of us that don't like them are somehow idiots.

    I happen to prefer to organize my apps into folders on the main "All" tray. I'd rather not have the homescreen arbitrarily flip to one of the other panels in daily use. Is that okay with you?

    Jeez, indeed.
    Everything you listed can be had easily, via any number of free themes. Fact is, when it comes to UI flexibility, OS6 is still light-years ahead of OS7, where we still wait for Theme Builder.
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    04-02-12 04:29 PM
  15. ssbtech's Avatar
    I happen to prefer to organize my apps into folders on the main "All" tray. I'd rather not have the homescreen arbitrarily flip to one of the other panels in daily use. Is that okay with you?
    I've never had my home screen arbitrarily flip to another panel

    While I do occasionally use folders, I find it easier to flip through to the panel I want than to read through several folders that all look exactly the same as eachother.
    04-02-12 05:12 PM
  16. joeldf's Avatar
    Everything you listed can be had easily, via any number of free themes. Fact is, when it comes to UI flexibility, OS6 is still light-years ahead of OS7, where we still wait for Theme Builder.
    Actually, there are no themes out there - free or otherwise - that does away with the trays while still maintaining the sliding up-and-down "all" home screen - and that's the key. What we do have are many themes that simply have a static home screen and you have to click the BB button to get to the app screen - complete with Theme Builder bug of a blank app screen after a restart and another bug of no access to the "home screen preferences" screen. What we have are basically different variations of the old OS 4 and 5 "Zen" themes.

    Sorry, but that's not the same.

    For the icons, yes. In fact, all I've been using for almost a year are themes that use the new icon set. Right now, I have one that uses a hybrid of the OS 7 and PB OS 2 icons.

    I just figured if RIM did decide to give us an update to 6 they might as well update the icons. I mean, they did it when they updated 4.5 to 4.6. 4.5 still had the cartoonish icons while 4.6 got the simplified "Precision" icons of OS 5. So the idea is not unheard of.

    Besides, it's all a fantasy wish anyway. Might as well dream big.
    Last edited by joeldf; 04-02-12 at 11:09 PM.
    04-02-12 11:04 PM
  17. BigBadWulf's Avatar
    Actually, there are no themes out there - free or otherwise - that does away with the trays while still maintaining the sliding up-and-down "all" home screen - and that's the key. What we do have are many themes that simply have a static home screen and you have to click the BB button to get to the app screen - complete with Theme Builder bug of a blank app screen after a restart and another bug of no access to the "home screen preferences" screen. What we have are basically different variations of the old OS 4 and 5 "Zen" themes.

    Sorry, but that's not the same.

    For the icons, yes. In fact, all I've been using for almost a year are themes that use the new icon set. Right now, I have one that uses a hybrid of the OS 7 and PB OS 2 icons.

    I just figured if RIM did decide to give us an update to 6 they might as well update the icons. I mean, they did it when they updated 4.5 to 4.6. 4.5 still had the cartoonish icons while 4.6 got the simplified "Precision" icons of OS 5. So the idea is not unheard of.

    Besides, it's all a fantasy wish anyway. Might as well dream big.
    Here's the last theme I had on my 9650. It was custom made for me, but I'm sure I could convince the builder to release it, if he hasn't already.


    One swipe down on the trackpad reveals:



    That close enough?
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    04-02-12 11:26 PM
  18. nappp's Avatar
    looks great!

    Sent from my BlackBerry Runtime for Android Apps using Tapatalk 2 Beta-5
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    04-02-12 11:28 PM
  19. MajesticSingh's Avatar
    cant wait to get an android phone, my bros got a S2 and hes just the ICS update and all we get is buggy firmware updates. ICS practically feels like a new fone.
    Thats wot we get for being loyal customers ^^
    04-30-12 02:57 PM
  20. guerllamo7's Avatar
    Guys,
    I currently have a Bold 9930 (OS7) but came from OS6. I think it will continue to get updates and bug fixes but I invite you to consider OS7 and the new devices. Nothing against OS6 but OS7 is just a huge improvement and BlackBerry is giving away $77.00 bucks in free premium apps.
    Just an idea. You should be coming up for an update if you are not there already. I think if you like OS6 you will love OS7.1 . Also, BB is buying your old BB for 100 bucks in case you want to stay on current contract for a BB10.
    04-30-12 03:04 PM
  21. Tõnis's Avatar
    As much as I'd love an os update that made the trays lockable, etc, I'd be worried that something else would end up broken. The one I'm running, 706, is just too good to tamper with.
    04-30-12 03:15 PM
  22. Blacklatino's Avatar
    cant wait to get an android phone, my bros got a S2 and hes just the ICS update and all we get is buggy firmware updates. ICS practically feels like a new fone.

    Thats wot we get for being loyal customers ^^

    A lot members upgraded to OS 7 and now 7.1 while others have upgraded via OS hybrids. So, there are some options. But, if Android devices work for you, no time like the present. No reason to "stay" unhappy.

    Sent from my BlackBerry 9810 using Tapatalk
    04-30-12 03:46 PM
  23. Blacklatino's Avatar
    As much as I'd love an os update that made the trays lockable, etc, I'd be worried that something else would end up broken. The one I'm running, 706, is just too good to tamper with.

    LOL, well said. If it's not broken......

    Sent from my BlackBerry 9810 using Tapatalk
    04-30-12 03:48 PM
  24. MajesticSingh's Avatar
    A lot members upgraded to OS 7 and now 7.1 while others have upgraded via OS hybrids. So, there are some options. But, if Android devices work for you, no time like the present. No reason to "stay" unhappy.

    Sent from my BlackBerry 9810 using Tapatalk
    Which OS 7 would you recommend for the Bold 9780?
    I've still got about 6 months left on my current contract and was looking into upgrading to a hybrid OS but wasnt sure which one.
    05-01-12 05:07 AM
  25. Blacklatino's Avatar
    Which OS 7 would you recommend for the Bold 9780?
    I've still got about 6 months left on my current contract and was looking into upgrading to a hybrid OS but wasnt sure which one.
    I wouldn't recommend "any" and you misread my post. But, I am curious as to which OS 7 hybrids are you considering? Nice try. Hybrids are another story.


    Here's a link that may interest you: http://forums.crackberry.com/hybrid-...evices-721043/
    Hope this helps.
    Last edited by Blacklatino; 05-02-12 at 09:59 PM. Reason: Clarification.
    05-01-12 12:54 PM
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