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  1. quest877's Avatar
    I have a request to make. Please make it optional, so that the legacy devices can become more usable, as BIS plans are very expensive. Also, using BBM isn't free either. Please sort it out BB. I don't like using much apps, and use my phone like a messenger only. These legacy devices are near perfect, just make BIS optional, so that who cannot afford it, also get to use basic internet facilities on their phones.

    Also, this is one of the major drawbacks on a Blackberry, as per Indian Standards. Nobody wants to pay Rs.400 to use Whatsapp, BBM, facebook, and basic internet browsing, when they can do it for mere Rs.100 on other devices. Love you.
    04-03-14 03:42 AM
  2. howarmat's Avatar
    BIS is required for OS7. Its not an optional thing really. Nothing will work without it
    04-03-14 03:53 AM
  3. CrackberryQ's Avatar
    Impossible. Deeply integrated in os7.



    Send from my Q10 in Duracell Mode
    04-03-14 03:54 AM
  4. quest877's Avatar
    Impossible. Deeply integrated in os7.



    Send from my Q10 in Duracell Mode
    If APN settings can be edited by a normal user to make browser and whatsapp work(Not efficiently), i believe that the engineers at blackberry can spare some time for their old customers as well, to make their devices run better, and find a solution to it. Maybe with a new software upgrade.
    If BIS was so important, it would have been carried onto BB10 as well. So, I guess Blackberry knows about it. But then again, they shouldn't leave OS7 customers just like that.
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    04-03-14 04:04 AM
  5. rohetaku's Avatar
    Shut it down


    Posted via CB10
    04-03-14 04:29 AM
  6. stlabrat's Avatar
    Bis very expensive?

    Posted via CB10
    04-03-14 04:56 AM
  7. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    Bis very expensive?

    Posted via CB10
    In some markets it is, in others it's dirt cheap. Here's the Vodafone UK prices, dirt cheap for BIS. Make BIS optional on OS7-imageuploadedbycb-forums1396517124.288824.jpg


    #believeinfilm
    04-03-14 05:25 AM
  8. quest877's Avatar
    Shut it down


    Posted via CB10
    shut what down?

    In some markets it is, in others it's dirt cheap. Here's the Vodafone UK prices, dirt cheap for BIS. Click image for larger version. 

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    #believeinfilm
    i'm not on a contract. Most of the phones are unlocked in here.
    and Rs.400>100, don't you think?
    04-03-14 06:00 AM
  9. lnichols's Avatar
    Upgrade to BB10. It fixes the issues you have with BIS!

    Posted via CB10
    04-03-14 07:00 AM
  10. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    shut what down?


    i'm not on a contract. Most of the phones are unlocked in here.
    and Rs.400>100, don't you think?
    In UK all carriers give you pre pay BIS for 5 a month, usually with 500mb or more included.

    How much is it costing you?


    #believeinfilm
    04-03-14 07:19 AM
  11. Troy Tiscareno's Avatar
    If APN settings can be edited by a normal user to make browser and whatsapp work(Not efficiently), i believe that the engineers at blackberry can spare some time for their old customers as well, to make their devices run better, and find a solution to it. Maybe with a new software upgrade.
    There aren't anymore BBOS engineers. That department was dissolved more than 6 months ago, with the employees either let go (most) or reassigned. BBOS is EOL (end-of-life), so the chances of them spending a bunch of money on it now is zero.
    04-03-14 12:24 PM
  12. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    I have a better idea. Upgrade to BB10.

    Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.2141
    04-03-14 12:44 PM
  13. stlabrat's Avatar
    Anyone got example of expensive bis in a specific region? Thx. Just try to understand that same thing with different perspective.

    Posted via CB10
    04-04-14 06:46 AM
  14. spikesolie's Avatar
    Solution.. get a bb10 lol seriously that line of life..gone

    From zee coolest flicking smartphone ever
    04-04-14 11:24 AM
  15. NamelessStar's Avatar
    If APN settings can be edited by a normal user to make browser and whatsapp work(Not efficiently), i believe that the engineers at blackberry can spare some time for their old customers as well, to make their devices run better, and find a solution to it. Maybe with a new software upgrade.
    If BIS was so important, it would have been carried onto BB10 as well. So, I guess Blackberry knows about it. But then again, they shouldn't leave OS7 customers just like that.
    No reason this is the only reason BlackBerry still exists is BIS fees, they won't revamp a 4 year old os to remove a prime feature. You don't want BIS time to upgrade to BlackBerry 10 it doesn't use it anymore.

    Posted via CB10 on my blazing fast Z30 on 10.2.1.2141
    04-04-14 05:04 PM
  16. quest877's Avatar
    Solution.. get a bb10 lol seriously that line of life..gone

    From zee coolest flicking smartphone ever
    Legacy still outsells BB10, mate. It's sweet and slick
    04-05-14 05:55 AM
  17. jevinzac's Avatar
    It's just 6.6$ per month for unlimited BID service in India. It's the cheapest Internet plan in India for unlimited 3G and the only service with no caps for downloading!
    Am suffering with Z30 because of its high data usage and high data prices

    Posted via CB10
    04-05-14 06:18 AM
  18. jevinzac's Avatar
    Legacy still outsells BB10, mate. It's sweet and slick
    Then you are outdated!

    Posted via CB10
    04-05-14 06:18 AM
  19. quest877's Avatar
    Then you are outdated!

    Posted via CB10
    Call them 2.3 mn bb legacy owners outdated as well.
    Source - http://press.blackberry.com/content/...ss_Release.pdf
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    04-05-14 06:32 AM
  20. stevobbm's Avatar
    Legacy still outsells BB10, mate. It's sweet and slick
    Outsells, true.

    Sweet, bitter.

    Slick, if you were to dip it in oil.

    Mate.



    Posted on CB10 with the Q10
    04-05-14 06:43 AM
  21. quest877's Avatar
    Outsells, true.

    Sweet, bitter.

    Slick, if you were to dip it in oil.

    Mate.



    Posted on CB10 with the Q10
    It's cheap, efficient and does what a PHONE needs to do, properly. Only thing that's required is an optional BIS plan, as not everybody needs it.
    I still think Blackberry should have developed BBOS7 to next level, instead of creating an iPhone-Android variant of their phones.
    04-05-14 06:48 AM
  22. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    It's cheap, efficient and does what a PHONE needs to do, properly. Only thing that's required is an optional BIS plan, as not everybody needs it.
    I still think Blackberry should have developed BBOS7 to next level, instead of creating an iPhone-Android variant of their phones.
    Couldn't agree more


    #believeinfilm
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    04-05-14 06:54 AM
  23. stlabrat's Avatar
    It's cheap, efficient and does what a PHONE needs to do, properly. Only thing that's required is an optional BIS plan, as not everybody needs it.
    I still think Blackberry should have developed BBOS7 to next level, instead of creating an iPhone-Android variant of their phones.
    Without bis, no compression, you will not get it cheap. It is cheap, because bbos is designed both hardware and software integrated to minimize the cost for the user. Such as a student. You need bis to do all the leg work at background. Imo.

    Posted via CB10
    04-05-14 07:25 AM
  24. belfastdispatcher's Avatar
    Without bis, no compression, you will not get it cheap. It is cheap, because bbos is designed both hardware and software integrated to minimize the cost for the user. Such as a student. You need bis to do all the leg work at background. Imo.

    Posted via CB10
    And how is that a bad thing? Do users not want value for money anymore?


    #believeinfilm
    04-05-14 07:46 AM
  25. jevinzac's Avatar
    Call them 2.3 mn bb legacy owners outdated as well.
    Source - http://press.blackberry.com/content/...ss_Release.pdf
    Yup they all are! I just got a 9790 recently, I have to say it sucks now compared to my Z30.

    Posted via CB10
    04-05-14 07:47 AM
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