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  1. dissector13's Avatar
    Thanks for answering my question - enjoy your memory leak...

    Newbies be warned!

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com

    Is it really confirmed that there's absolutely no memory leak if you don't shrink the OS? Not even a little bit?

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    11-21-10 01:55 AM
  2. maccauk's Avatar
    been running this for a few hours now,still same bugs but gone from 52mb memory to 69mb memory,apart from that cant notice any difference.will post after more playing around.maccauk.
    11-21-10 02:15 AM
  3. Lucky45's Avatar
    Is it really confirmed that there's absolutely no memory leak if you don't shrink the OS? Not even a little bit?

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    'Absolutely no memory leak'? You're kidding, right? There's always going to be some...

    It was explained to me that the bulk of the leak is from universal search (among other things) and the way it interacts with the rest of the OS - when there are files absent this has negative effect on the way everything work together. Since none of us knows what's what in OS6 we can't just assume its okay to delete something because we could with OS5.

    Anyone notice how there are some 'junk' files we can't delete on the 9800? Gee, I bet there's a reason why...

    Me, personally, when I install the OS 'as is' the performance is a lot better then if its been 'tweaked'.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    Last edited by lucky45; 11-21-10 at 02:38 AM.
    11-21-10 02:24 AM
  4. nutter426's Avatar
    is there is the issue of no curser in bbm and text when scrolling up and down
    The way it behaved so consistantly I got the impression it was a design feature. The fact you have to press the escape arrow to get out of "edit mode" before you could press it to get back to the list is the other giveaway.
    I prefer the old way too though.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    11-21-10 02:29 AM
  5. CivilEx's Avatar
    I still have to delete BlackBerry Internet Browsing Service 2 to get my browser to work over 3G

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    I am also seeing the blackberry internet browsing service 2, but I can use the browser over 3G without deleting it. I am seeing an issue though that if a direct tcp connection is made by an app, the bb symbol beside the signal bar disappears and if I try the browser and I get the wap browser rathaer than the bb browser.

    Email also goes once the bb symbol goes. The bug is that it seems to restore a bis connnection sometimes, but not always. No problems with GPRS or wifi, so if I force the connection to 2G or wifi and then go back to 3G, the bb symbol reappears.
    Edit... I'm on Vodafone IE

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    11-21-10 03:00 AM
  6. PDM's Avatar
    Since you felt the need to comment on something that had nothing to do with you you wanna help me correct everyone else too?

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    Well, I do not believe the OP's statement was directed at you either before you jumped on hi/her. I haven't corrected anyone and certainly not suggested that I know any more than them either; people are entitled to their opinions right or wrong.

    As you are neither a developer or an insightful tester your statement holds as much validity as an inexperienced persons. Its all conjuncture and hypothesis... e.g. as someone explained to me, I read in a thread, I believe if you turn everything off in Universal Search, Do not load pictures within BBM etc...
    11-21-10 03:08 AM
  7. DeMoNiCz's Avatar
    Let me ask you a simple question, WHICH boots faster...

    A car navigation system with integrated bluetooth, radio, speed controls, climate, suspension and everything else in modern day cars.. OR a car with just an AM/FM radio.

    Less junk = Faster load. It's plain and simple, go ahead and say i'm wrong, but clearly you know nothing about how/why RAM is used and how RIM loads the OS on boot.
    it's how a logic works, and i did believe it, and just fyi, the fact, it loaded faster and more stable with nothing being shrunk, and it load slower n drained memory when i shrink it with "shrink-a-os", lots of testers out there share the same problems, how can you tell me bout less junk = faster load???
    11-21-10 03:09 AM
  8. alfons1's Avatar
    I still have to delete BlackBerry Internet Browsing Service 2 to get my browser to work over 3G

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    You could try this and see if this will also work for you....

    1. Go to your service books on your device (where you would normally delete the Browsing Service 2)

    2. On that screen, hold the alt button down and type SBEB. after which Legacy SB restore will be enabled. Select ok.

    3. Without leaving that screen, delete the Browsing Service 2.


    do a battery pull. you will find the that service is again there but test if you can now browse without turning your wifi on.
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    11-21-10 03:13 AM
  9. Ssteffan's Avatar
    i noticed that and the only thing i can think of, is that the facebook mobile site is triggered to only recognize OS6 as part of the Torch because it had been the only phone with a legitimate release of the OS.
    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com

    Yeah I thought about it last night, can't think why else it would do that.
    As long as its working fine it okay. All good so far apart from the memory leak :|
    Let's hope RIM hear our cries and release an Official OS6 soon!!

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    11-21-10 03:28 AM
  10. xeju's Avatar
    Is it really confirmed that there's absolutely no memory leak if you don't shrink the OS? Not even a little bit?

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    I will go ahead and say "No". My caveat is this is not from personal, first-hand, experience. However... I have two friends with 9700's whom I have basically convinced to try both of these BB6 leaks. Neither has shrunk anything from their original installs.

    I have shrunk my OS. Neither of them has - they wouldn't even know how if I didn't walk them through it. Over time all three of us have lost approximately the same amount of Application Memory. For example, in 8 hours I have gone from 109mb (shrunk) to 79mb, whereas a friend has gone from 66mb (full install) to 32mb in 12 hours.

    Something is sucking up Application Memory space. It has nothing to do with shrinking. (The other friend's results are similar, but I don't have empirical numbers - again, it's someone who's never touched shrink-a-os, crackmem or anything else).
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    11-21-10 03:34 AM
  11. Cybix's Avatar
    So what you're says is YOU DIDN'T help RIM develop OS6 and you REALY DON'T understand which files are dependent on each other? You're just guessing based on how other things work?

    Thanks for answering my question - enjoy your memory leak...

    Newbies be warned!

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    What i'm saying is that being a programmer myself and understanding how operating systems are coded, I can safety say that you are wrong. I can see from your profile your a "Casino Marketing Executive", which obviously makes you more knowledgeable on this subject then myself... seeing as I only studied computer programming for 8 years, worked for many companies designing the software you use every day.

    Sorry to 'bother' you with my baseless opinion on this matter. I'll let you "knowledgeable" boys take care of this one
    11-21-10 03:40 AM
  12. Bozed's Avatar
    What about broswer autowrapping on zoom...specifically for mible pages...you know, like the mobile version of this page haha. Text is soooo small on my bb but sideways scrolling is sooooo much more difficult on os6...alt + sideways scroll zooms instead of sideways scroll

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com

    works quite well just make sure you are zoomed out all the way
    11-21-10 03:46 AM
  13. Eukanaba's Avatar
    You could try this and see if this will also work for you....

    1. Go to your service books on your device (where you would normally delete the Browsing Service 2)

    2. On that screen, hold the alt button down and type SBEB. after which Legacy SB restore will be enabled. Select ok.

    3. Without leaving that screen, delete the Browsing Service 2.


    do a battery pull. you will find the that service is again there but test if you can now browse without turning your wifi on.
    I still don't work.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    11-21-10 03:48 AM
  14. Nonpareil's Avatar
    has anyone turned all of their universal search options off and had a leak? doesn't it cache all day or index...
    11-21-10 03:53 AM
  15. Lucky45's Avatar
    Well, I do not believe the OP's statement was directed at you either before you jumped on hi/her. I haven't corrected anyone and certainly not suggested that I know any more than them either; people are entitled to their opinions right or wrong.
    Once again, this has what to do with you?

    As you are neither a developer or an insightful tester your statement holds as much validity as an inexperienced persons.
    True I'm not nor have I ever claimed too be BUT I'm close to a few. During past CTIA events I've had the great fortune to make friends with a number of people with RIM. Its amazing the people you meet being a casino host in Las Vegas... Anyways, all of my statements are based on advice given to me by them - advice that's been tried and tested...

    Believe me or not, I really don't give a sh|t, but if I can keep one person from having problems with their phone because of some *****'s 'advice' and bit@hing about it in a post then I'm happy.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    11-21-10 03:57 AM
  16. DeMoNiCz's Avatar
    has anyone turned all of their universal search options off and had a leak? doesn't it cache all day or index...
    i left contact and homescreen there, easier for me to search for contacts and app, less memory leaked, don't view others bbm DP, it drained memory...

    Options >> Device >> Application Management scroll to right or left, you will see cpu and memory usage there; and will know what caused your memory drained...
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    11-21-10 04:04 AM
  17. aparcedoluis's Avatar
    idk if is a .358 issue, but im having trouble configuring my gmail email with my blackberry, i cant sincronize contacts or anythiung else, any help ?
    11-21-10 04:07 AM
  18. Lucky45's Avatar
    What i'm saying is that being a programmer myself and understanding how operating systems are coded, I can safety say that you are wrong. I can see from your profile your a "Casino Marketing Executive", which obviously makes you more knowledgeable on this subject then myself... seeing as I only studied computer programming for 8 years, worked for many companies designing the software you use every day.

    Sorry to 'bother' you with my baseless opinion on this matter. I'll let you "knowledgeable" boys take care of this one
    You didn't state it as an 'option'...if you would of I wouldn't of cared.

    Worked for 'many'? That's reassuring... Does any of 'many' include RIM?

    ** on a side note I do want to thank you for this 'entertainment' - its been a slow night and everyone here with me needed a good laugh! Best of luck with the 'programing'

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    11-21-10 04:12 AM
  19. Mio_Ray's Avatar
    OK, 12 hours down the line (9 hours since last reboot)

    Battery dropped maybe 10% overnight.

    Appl. Mem: 113MB on boot 111MB now

    RSS Fixed (80%) and memory management seems better. Still a lot issues to be dealt with so the build is a step in right direction but still lots room for improvements

    Is far as I can tell no new issues has arrised.

    It is worth the upgrade

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
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    11-21-10 04:17 AM
  20. Cybix's Avatar
    You didn't state it as an 'option'...if you would of I wouldn't of cared.

    Worked for 'many'? That's reassuring... Does any of 'many' include RIM?

    ** on a side note I do want to thank you for this 'entertainment' - its been a slow night and everyone here with me needed a good laugh! Best of luck with the 'programing'

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    You're obviously dumb as a ******* post.

    Listen, to everyone who's wondering if they should shrink their OS or NOT, DO IT. Don't listen to this ******* guy, he's got about as much experience on how these things work as Hitler did at running a bed-and-breakfast.

    Enough said.
    11-21-10 04:18 AM
  21. chestervhk's Avatar
    seems like no one even bother to read the thread. someone recommended tapping on the shift button and the cursor will come out. come on, this is leaked version of coz its buggy. whole group of morons complain and complain or cursor... cursor.. cursor.. flood the thread like ****.
    11-21-10 04:19 AM
  22. DefconN's Avatar
    This leak sounds like it has added more problems then it has fixed.

    The cursor bug is still there (which is the only buggy thing I've noticed so far in .344) so I guess I'll pass on this one.
    11-21-10 04:19 AM
  23. reeves2k2's Avatar
    For me the memory leak is even bigger in this leak than the original I'm down to 40MB in about 9 hours so not looking great

    This was from a fresh install after wipe without shrinking

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    11-21-10 04:25 AM
  24. Lucky45's Avatar
    You're obviously dumb as a ******* post.

    Listen, to everyone who's wondering if they should shrink their OS or NOT, DO IT. Don't listen to this ******* guy, he's got about as much experience on how these things work as Hitler did at running a bed-and-breakfast.

    Enough said.
    The programmer of 'MANY' has spoken!!

    IMAO - that was priceless! Thank you so much for the laughs tonight!



    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    11-21-10 04:26 AM
  25. Cybix's Avatar
    The programmer of 'MANY' has spoken!!

    IMAO - that was priceless! Thank you so much for the laughs tonight!



    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    Look @ the post above yours..

    Major memory leak after 9 hours (40mb).

    I've been running mine with a shrunk OS for almost the same time and I've not experienced any memory leaking at all.

    Point proven.
    11-21-10 04:34 AM
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