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  1. ifraser's Avatar
    Thanks. Yes. You right I didn't try in this way. Didn't try to resend service book or battery pull rather I was more dependent on quick launcher reset.

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    ok thanks, you need at least one full battery pull to clear the cache properly, I would try that and if that gives you no luck resend the service books as suggested.
    Last edited by ifraser; 08-15-12 at 08:41 AM.
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    08-15-12 08:35 AM
  2. paulsdv's Avatar
    slightly off topic but can someone confirm that a alt shift del reboot and a bat pull has the same impact?
    08-15-12 08:41 AM
  3. ifraser's Avatar
    slightly off topic but can someone confirm that a alt shift del reboot and a bat pull has the same impact?
    No, alt + shift + del is a soft reset, battery pull is a hard reset
    08-15-12 08:42 AM
  4. prithvi64's Avatar
    One basic question after using several hybrids on several bb and several years, I have noticed voice call clarity is slightly reduced on hybrids compare to official OS. Also, there had been more instances of call drops. Thu comparison when using same .sfi file on both. I don't know whether it is myth or misconception in my mind.

    Prithvi, pin:28472307, Sent from my BlackBerry 9860 using Tapatalk
    08-15-12 08:46 AM
  5. ifraser's Avatar
    One basic question after using several hybrids on several bb and several years, I have noticed voice call clarity is slightly reduced on hybrids compare to official OS. Also, there had been more instances of call drops. Thu comparison when using same .sfi file on both. I don't know whether it is myth or misconception in my mind.

    Prithvi, pin:28472307, Sent from my BlackBerry 9860 using Tapatalk
    Having have almost every Official OS on my 9900 and plenty of hybrids also I can confirm that is a myth,

    Call quality is more likely to be down to the radio file then your networks signal quality.
    08-15-12 08:51 AM
  6. maxx71's Avatar
    No, alt + shift + del is a soft reset, battery pull is a hard reset
    @Ian, what would a quick pull reboot qualify as ?
    08-15-12 08:52 AM
  7. paulsdv's Avatar
    No, alt + shift + del is a soft reset, battery pull is a hard reset
    thanks for this, i always thought they were identical - will try a few hard battery pulls now
    08-15-12 08:55 AM
  8. Phill_UK's Avatar
    @Ian, what would a quick pull reboot qualify as ?
    Any app based reboot is a soft reset.
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    08-15-12 09:16 AM
  9. ifraser's Avatar
    Quickpull would be more like a soft reset i believe
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    08-15-12 09:16 AM
  10. maxx71's Avatar
    Any app based reboot is a soft reset.
    Thanks Phill & Ian,

    I always thought otherwise but now that i am aware i will always do a good old battery pull only and remove the app altogether.
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    08-15-12 09:52 AM
  11. James9900's Avatar
    An alt+shift+del can brick a 9900, trust me its happened to me.

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    08-15-12 09:53 AM
  12. BigwhiteUK's Avatar
    why would it brick your phone?
    08-15-12 10:26 AM
  13. Phill_UK's Avatar
    An alt+shift+del can brick a 9900, trust me its happened to me.
    Unfortunate coincidence...
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    08-15-12 10:36 AM
  14. radi33idar's Avatar
    No, alt + shift + del is a soft reset, battery pull is a hard reset
    Any app based reboot is a soft reset.
    Quickpull would be more like a soft reset i believe
    As a Blackberry newbie, would like to know more the difference between a BB soft reset & a hard reset.

    In Windows mobile devices, a soft reset would simply mean a restart or reboot while a hard reset wipes out all data including installed OS. It seems like it's different here in BB world. Can you please enlighten me more?

    It will be critical for us know that we are doing the right thing during the early stages of hybrid installation. Thanks.
    08-15-12 10:46 AM
  15. paulsdv's Avatar
    As a Blackberry newbie, would like to know more the difference between a BB soft reset & a hard reset.

    In Windows mobile devices, a soft reset would simply mean a restart or reboot while a hard reset wipes out all data including installed OS. It seems like it's different here in BB world. Can you please enlighten me more?

    It will be critical for us know that we are doing the right thing during the early stages of hybrid installation. Thanks.
    both are just reboots, no wiping of any data
    08-15-12 10:48 AM
  16. dj_pavo's Avatar
    Thanks for clearing up the hard and soft reset guys. So in theory I've never done a hard reset. Maybe that's why my memory drain and battery life isn't up to par.
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    08-15-12 10:51 AM
  17. BigwhiteUK's Avatar
    discussion on the pros and cons of hard/soft reset
    Soft Reset
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    08-15-12 11:16 AM
  18. radi33idar's Avatar
    thanks for this, i always thought they were identical - will try a few hard battery pulls now
    both are just reboots, no wiping of any data
    So why do you have to do battery pulls if both just do the same - reboot with no data wipe!? Seems like alt+shift(right)+del is more convenient.

    Oh yes, you will say because battery pull does hard reset!

    But then, back to my previous question: whats the DIFFERENCE between bb hard & soft reset? Please.
    08-15-12 11:22 AM
  19. BigwhiteUK's Avatar
    see above post. Some say none, some say a hard reset discharges all the electrictrickery!
    08-15-12 11:24 AM
  20. ifraser's Avatar
    As a Blackberry newbie, would like to know more the difference between a BB soft reset & a hard reset.

    In Windows mobile devices, a soft reset would simply mean a restart or reboot while a hard reset wipes out all data including installed OS. It seems like it's different here in BB world. Can you please enlighten me more?

    It will be critical for us know that we are doing the right thing during the early stages of hybrid installation. Thanks.
    As explained above, one is a soft reset, like a windows reboot

    the other is a hard reset, like a power off.
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    08-15-12 11:27 AM
  21. BigwhiteUK's Avatar
    Perhaps what is just as important is how often? And remember not to get too hung up on battery/memory discharge rates. Constantly checking will in its self aid your discharge rate! Ive done it lol
    Last edited by BigwhiteUK; 08-15-12 at 11:32 AM.
    08-15-12 11:28 AM
  22. radi33idar's Avatar
    discussion on the pros and cons of hard/soft reset
    Soft Reset
    Thanks BigWhiteUK!

    The referenced link to Joseph Holder's writeup should clear up the issue: BOTH ARE THE SAME!
    Soft reset refers to doing a reboot/reset the SOFTware way by alt+shift(right)+del while hard reset means doing reset/reboot the HARDware way.

    I thought I'm doing the wrong way (software reset).
    08-15-12 11:38 AM
  23. ifraser's Avatar
    There is no right or wrong way to reboot ur phone and my last post is true.
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    08-15-12 11:42 AM
  24. radi33idar's Avatar
    As explained above, one is a soft reset, like a windows reboot the other is a hard reset, like a power off.
    Nah, it's going to be confusing without giving the meaning & effect of a hard reset vs soft reset by simply referring to the terms.

    I think the article & posted comments there linked by BigWhiteUK pretty clears up the issue (at least for me).
    08-15-12 11:47 AM
  25. ifraser's Avatar
    Lol...ok I have not read the article but as an electonics and IT engineer the facts are if you do a battery pull, you power off your device, if you do a soft reset it just reboots the software.

    Neither of these are destructive and you only need to do them when you feel like it.
    I hope you get what you need from the thread and hybrid.
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    08-15-12 12:04 PM
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