[SCrid2000]

Sorry if this has been discussed, I couldn't find anything on it.
Is there any way to run android os on a blackberry? They're both java phones, right? (I'm no developer, so there may be huge holes in my logic).
I just think it would be cool to run an alternative os on my berry
Thanks guys.

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[SaneinOne]

Not currently and I'm not aware of this ever being a possibility.

[SCrid2000]

:/ k thanks. I kinda figured it wasn't when I couldn't find anything about it.
Thanks for the quick reply.

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[BDLIVE4463]

I'm sure it could be done, I just don't think anyone's bothered.

[dannylill1981]

you would have to find an android phone that runs absolutley identical hardware to the blackberry and then figure out some way of getting it to boot up, given that rim are very festidious with their security i find it very unlikely youll figure out a way ot do it.

[Fubaz]

Well they can run Android almost 100% on a iPhone, so I don't see why it can't run on a BB.

Its open source, just a matter of someone wanting to port it.

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[12MaNy]

Android is Linux based...not gonna happen.

[Broly]

Dear friends,

These are all misconceptions. Flatly put: Can android run on blackberries? YES OF COURSE.

Why? Because the Phone's CPU architecture is RISC. RISC processors are supported by any Linux Kernel.

I am going to do some digging to see what is in the bootloader that prevents the loading of the OS. I have a suspicion it's more about what RIM wants you to run (like Apple).

[SCrid2000]

Broly, you would be the savior of my time until my upgrade if you can unravel this conundrum.

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[312]

I guess I just don't understand WHY in the world anyone would want to run an Android OS on a BlackBerry.

Kinda like putting a Kia motor into a Camaro...sure, it'll run but you won't be able to use it to its full potential.

[mke67]

I guess I just don't understand WHY in the world anyone would want to run an Android OS on a BlackBerry.

Kinda like putting a Kia motor into a Camaro...sure, it'll run but you won't be able to use it to its full potential.

Did not know a KIA motor had more potential than a CAMARO's......

[312]

The car, not the motor.

[StAiChiLLiN]

All Android phones I've seen were touch screen so how would that be possible
Unless on a storm.

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[12MaNy]

Dear friends,

These are all misconceptions. Flatly put: Can android run on blackberries? YES OF COURSE.

Why? Because the Phone's CPU architecture is RISC. RISC processors are supported by any Linux Kernel.

I am going to do some digging to see what is in the bootloader that prevents the loading of the OS. I have a suspicion it's more about what RIM wants you to run (like Apple).

I'm willling to wager a large sum of money that you won't get Droid 2.1, or 2.2 on a Blackberry. You're not taking hardware/system files into account. Can you say "Brick"?

[Deathcommand]

uhhh...
brick?

It may work on a storm however i wonder how the suretype will handle the OS.

or OS handle the Suretype.

[12MaNy]

Android would look cool stuffed on a Storm, but there would be some major hardware/software conflicts going on.

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[Broly]

I'm willling to wager a large sum of money that you won't get Droid 2.1, or 2.2 on a Blackberry. You're not taking hardware/system files into account. Can you say "Brick"?

Hi

Flatly put, and I'm trying to be polite: What the **** are you talking about?

What do you mean "hardware and system files in account"? I am a Computing Science undergraduate who is going into Graduate school this upcoming year, and I have not heard "hardware and system" files when we're talking about embedded devices.

Flatly put, if we are taking Linux Kernel versus "BlackBerry Kernel" (which is just a garbage Java-based Operating System), linux significantly outperforms it.

It is known that Java's compilation time often is much higher than the equivalent C programs (which are known to be the best performing programs around, if written properly of course).

To simply refute this inane and uneducated post, I will say this:

You can write drivers for anything, and in this case it would likely require one of the optical trackpad, which should NOT be a big deal. The biggest problem is the signed bootloader which prevents foreign operating systems, that do not have a certain signature that is given by all BlackBerry OSs.

Hardware and software files are not even the problem. You will need to write drivers for anything. In this case I bet most of the stuff will be native since you could re-bind the keys of the android keypad driver to the Blackberry one, provided their mode of operation is the same.

Can someone else explain hardware/software files to me?

[12MaNy]

Flatly put, and I'm trying to be polite: What the **** are you talking about? Can someone else explain hardware/software files to me?

Flatly put...

Hardware = Physical device hardware (camera, keypad, screen....etc.)

System software = Core applications that have unique BB functionality (phone app, options app, messaging app, calendar app....etc.)

How are you not understanding this?

I am a Computing Science undergraduate who is going into Graduate school this upcoming year...

Good for you. I'm an 8,000th level dungeon master and I ride a unicorn to work everyday.

Flatly put, if we are taking Linux Kernel versus "BlackBerry Kernel" (which is just a garbage Java-based Operating System), linux significantly outperforms it.

It is known that Java's compilation time often is much higher than the equivalent C programs (which are known to be the best performing programs around, if written properly of course).

To simply refute this inane and uneducated post, I will say this:

You can write drivers for anything, and in this case it would likely require one of the optical trackpad, which should NOT be a big deal. The biggest problem is the signed bootloader which prevents foreign operating systems, that do not have a certain signature that is given by all BlackBerry OSs.

Hardware and software files are not even the problem. You will need to write drivers for anything. In this case I bet most of the stuff will be native since you could re-bind the keys of the android keypad driver to the Blackberry one, provided their mode of operation is the same.

Again, flatly put...

How the he77 is anyone going to stuff the Droid platform into a crappy Java based RIM device especially when they're not taking both devices major differences in hardware into account as well as the Droid's touchscreen functionality conflicting with the BB's non-touchscreen functionality? It's very simple really.....Oh, and the Storm doesn't count seeing as how it's surepress technology and not true touch.

Also, before you start calling people uneducated, pull your head out of your a$$ and learn to read mr. hotshot computer major. Seems as though your comprehension of basic written communication has eluded you. Try to work on that before you start flaming people on forums. That way you won't come out of the exchange smelling so much like a turd.

[Broly]

Again, there is no such thing as software file you nimrod. Get it together.

You obviously don't know what your'e talking about. I"m done here. Ignore.

[digitalb0y]

Android platform comes to the Blackberry? � Nearly Deaf

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[Ethrem]

That post is SO old...

[12MaNy]

Again, there is no such thing as software file you nimrod. Get it together.

You obviously don't know what your'e talking about. I"m done here. Ignore.

I didn't say "software files" there Einstein. I said "system software". As in the "system software modules", or "core app files/modules".


Here's a few examples of what I was referring to....










...and here's an example of the "System Software" files/modules (aka .cods) I was referring to.









Who's the "nimrod" now? I would seriously consider changing your username, because you are now going to be known as the village idi0t.

[Broly]

Really? You think I'm going to change my username because you're trying to speak on things you don't know?

Listen here dummy, I'm a systems-specialist. In Computing Science there's an area we call Systems which focuses on studying Operating Systems at the hardware level. I know what the fck goes on at all times in any piece of hardware, that's what an education gets you.

Too bad you don't have any sort of requisite knowledge that would qualify you to speak. First your dumb @$$ thought that you couldn't run android on blackberries because it's linux based... Really? Are you so sure?

Tell me, Mr. "I'm the God of blackberry hardware and software information" (which you're clearly not), why can't android work on Blackberries?

Linux works on nearly every device, legacy drivers are usually all you need to get the most obsolete piece of hardware running. And how the fck do modules limit your ability to load linux?

Do you realize that everything you're saying is in relation to a Java Operating System, and that you're ASSUMING you need the same setup in order to get android working on a blackberry? That's not true at all, you don't need "modules". In fact, I'm going to bet that the kernel will support most of the blackberry peripherals by default. Definitely the phone radio, cpu will be fully supported. I bet a legacy keyboard driver wrapper is sufficient to get the keypad working. What the **** are you missing here? You obviously don't have enough knowledge to speak on the subject but you feel you do.

Your life is so pathetic you have 2600 posts in less than 2 years here. Do the math sherlock. Even if I rounded up to 730 days for you. 2600/730 = nearly 4 posts per day. It's 3.5ish, but I'm just letting you know how much of a loser you really are.

Do you want to get in a pissing contest with a lurker who is confident in his knowledge (Me)? I highly suggest you walk away now you punk, I am not scared of your freaking post count or your pathetic 2 year tenure. Get a life and stop trying to use social pressure to win an argument.

[12MaNy]

@ Broly...

I already explained this to you idi0t. The current BB and Android device lineup thats out have too many hardware differences. You have software that controls the hardware's functions (are you still with me idi0t?). Therefore...How is a current version of Android software compatible with a currenty Blackberry device? I'm not a computer geek/loser/pompous/reject like you, but I've dissected enough BB Java folders to know that you're not going to stuff a current version of Android onto a current BB model and have it function at 100%....PERIOD! This could change later down the road, but it ain't happening today. I don't have the super computer sword of knowledge and infinite pompous wisdom like you do, so I can't explain to you how it would work...but I can explain how it wouldn't.

Why don't you put your money where your mouth is idi0t? I bet you $100 you cant stuff a current version of Droid on to a current BB model and have 100% functionality. If you post a detailed video of Android functioning at 100% on a BB (plus prove it by showing software version on screen and related files if you can)...I'll give you $100.

...and I don't care what credentials your packin'...you'll always be the village idi0t.

[geoffsdad]

Damm if that isn't the most wicked flame I have ever seen! On the subject of Android ona BB, all I can say is uhhhhh, I dunno.

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