Whatsapp is the reason people are buying other phones instead of blackberry
- What?! As far as I know, when you install WhatsApp, it sends a text message to your number to validate your phone number and then it gets tied to that phone number. Are you saying, buy a SIM card, download whatsapp, install it, validate it. Remove SIM card and then use your real SIM Card? I don't think that'd work. Sometimes you've to reboot the device, sometimes the application shuts down. You might have to delete/re-install the app for any reason.12-05-12 09:22 AMLike 0
- What?! As far as I know, when you install WhatsApp, it sends a text message to your number to validate your phone number and then it gets tied to that phone number. Are you saying, buy a SIM card, download whatsapp, install it, validate it. Remove SIM card and then use your real SIM Card? I don't think that'd work. Sometimes you've to reboot the device, sometimes the application shuts down. You might have to delete/re-install the app for any reason.12-05-12 09:43 AMLike 0
- I wasn't aware of this. I still think BBM is much better though. What's App is very basic.Bold_until_Hybrid_Comes likes this.12-05-12 10:30 AMLike 1
- Anyway, coming back to the topic in the thread title: "Whatsapp is the reason people are buying other phones instead of blackberry". I think it's actually more than that.
My opinion is BlackBerry is very practical and also kind of addictive (it really is crack-berry). The practicality of unified/universal inbox (aka 'hub' in BB 10 lingo) and the LED light is hard to beat. Some of my friends who migrated to iPhone/Android tell me they miss the red led light. It's kinda addictive. So, why are people not choosing BB?
Case 1: People migrating from BlackBerry to iPhone/Android
Simply because of the app gap. BB 5/6/7 are very practical but people want their phones to do more. BB 5/6/7 are slow (constant hourglass, battery pulls). RIM keeps adding new features/apps to BB7 but the slowness takes half the fun away. So, people are migrating to other OSes which are faster and slicker. They may not be as practical or productivity oriented as BBs but the speed/fluidity makes them to fun to use. Enhances the overall experience.
Case 2: People who've never used a BlackBerry are buying iPhone/Android
Again, this is because when you go checkout a demo BB in-store, it appears slow, lacks a lot of apps. Customer says 'but keyboard would be very handy..' and the sales-guy 'oh, you'll get used to touch screen keyboard, and look how cool this is..everything is fast..you can do so much.. there are so many apps, there is Skype for calling, there is NetFlix for watching movies, amazing browser that renders webpages fluidly..' and the BB (despite its practicality) starts to appear as an outdated/inferior product. For the sales-guy, iPhone and Android become a much easier-sell. Now, in reality, this customer might never use Skype, might never use NetFlix but the perception is that if your smartphone can't have these apps then your smartphone is not really smart. This user NEVER even gets to try addictive features of a BlackBerry (hub, led light etc.), NEVER gets to feel how practical a BB can be !
With BB 10, I am expecting RIM to close the app-gap (bring all top used apps, and top downloaded apps to BB 10), and I am also expecting that BB 10 OS will make the device really fast/fluid (at par with, if not faster than, iPhone/Android devices). Once this happens, I think the former BB users will flock back to BB. Like bees to honey. They have already tasted the practicality of a BB and I think a lot of them will flock back.
And new users (that have never used BB before) will at-least start having a neutral view of BB 10 when they see it in-store. There will be some early adopters and if BB can provide them what these early adopters perceive to be essential, it'll open the floodgates for BlackBerry 10 sales!Last edited by chrysaurora; 12-05-12 at 01:21 PM.
ritesh likes this.12-05-12 12:56 PMLike 1 - Hi Everyone! I'm seldom on this forum but saw What'sApp and had to jump on. I downloaded it some time ago when some friends of mine moved to Cabo San Lucus to open a resort. They had iPhone and told me What'sApp was free anywhere in the world and they were going to use it to text to friends/family in the US. I downloaded it and the app actually worked fine with one glaring exception! It was the biggest battery hog I've experienced yet--except for of course all battery monitor apps-LOL. The problem with What'sApp is that it constantly runs in the background and unless you completely close it--not just exit--it never shuts down and keeps on keeping on and sucking up battery power. Not a biggie but if you have it on and don't know it you will experience battery drain which is hard to find with the common search methods.
If someone knows of another messaging app out there that is free around the world and doesn't suck up your battery, now is the time to speak up. Thanks!12-05-12 02:19 PMLike 0 - My battery is fine on WhatsApp. Are you using the latest version of WhatsApp? I remember the older version of WhatsApp drained more battery. But the newer version seems just fine.
It's not free on iPhone. Well, even the first year of WhatsApp is NOT free on iPhone. So, maybe, that's why a lot of iPhone folks don't download/use it. They are fine using iMessage and SMS!ritesh likes this.12-05-12 02:30 PMLike 1 - I have Whatsapp installed and use it quite a bit. It's a memory and a battery hog on OS 7.1 that's for sure. It's functionality is passable and I highly doubt the delivery/read marks. The other highly irritating issue is it links to other WA contacts without asking, I'm not too comfortable with this part though. I have even heard of issues with the iphone WA - messages not getting delivered but still showing as delivered and so on.
OP, I think as long as people can connect to their contacts by any means it's okay to switch to another device, WA is not the sole reason of people switching from BlackBerry to another platform.12-05-12 03:21 PMLike 0 -
As it stands, my Whatsapp contact list is longer than my BBM list ever was.
And LOL at Belfast saying it's a data hog..12-05-12 03:26 PMLike 0 - I have Whatsapp installed and use it quite a bit. It's a memory and a battery hog on OS 7.1 that's for sure. It's functionality is passable and I highly doubt the delivery/read marks. The other highly irritating issue is it links to other WA contacts without asking, I'm not too comfortable with this part though..12-05-12 03:29 PMLike 0
- What? You must be joking, that's the most useful feature on BBM, it removes the need for a reply in many cases.MADBRADNYC likes this.12-05-12 03:32 PMLike 1
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- My battery is fine on WhatsApp. Are you using the latest version of WhatsApp? I remember the older version of WhatsApp drained more battery. But the newer version seems just fine.
It's not free on iPhone. Well, even the first year of WhatsApp is NOT free on iPhone. So, maybe, that's why a lot of iPhone folks don't download/use it. They are fine using iMessage and SMS!12-05-12 04:08 PMLike 0 - i disagree too. i know plenty of people who have downloaded whatsapp, used it for 2 days and never used it again.
i also tried whatsapp and find it a very poor experience.
i feel rim would be wasting their money by buying whatsapp. it has too many problems with it.
Sent from my BlackBerry 9810 using Tapatalk12-05-12 04:41 PMLike 0 - i disagree too. i know plenty of people who have downloaded whatsapp, used it for 2 days and never used it again.
i also tried whatsapp and find it a very poor experience.
i feel rim would be wasting their money by buying whatsapp. it has too many problems with it.
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My first thought was wow, look how many are using it, then silence, nobody was responding.MADBRADNYC likes this.12-05-12 05:02 PMLike 1 -
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As well there are personal contacts who only know me from social networking circles. While I don't mind them being able to message me (since I can block them in a moment's notice), letting them have my phone number would be crazy stupid.
Swyped or Swifted via TapaTalk on my Galaxy Nexus.kbz1960 likes this.12-05-12 05:37 PMLike 1 -
With less and less people using Blackberries, those that are still on Blackberries may use Whatsapp to chat with friends on Androids, iPhones and Windows phones.
I also see you have this fixation on data. Data plans must be very expensive where you live. They are cheap in Canada and the US.Last edited by E92Vancouver; 12-05-12 at 06:03 PM.
12-05-12 05:47 PMLike 0 - I have a ton of work related contacts who should only be able to contact me via messaging or email, and not have the luxury of being able to call me. Especially those pesky clients who feel that their time is more important than mine.
As well there are personal contacts who only know me from social networking circles. While I don't mind them being able to message me (since I can block them in a moment's notice), letting them have my phone number would be crazy stupid.
Swyped or Swifted via TapaTalk on my Galaxy Nexus.12-05-12 08:34 PMLike 0 - If this is the reason people aren't buying BlackBerry's then we must eliminate Whatsapp.
Where is Chuck Norris when you need him?...MADBRADNYC likes this.12-05-12 08:35 PMLike 1 - Sorry. Whatsapp is a good service and I do use it but its not and will never be THE reason to choose one smartphone over another.12-06-12 12:56 AMLike 0
- My battery is fine on WhatsApp. Are you using the latest version of WhatsApp? I remember the older version of WhatsApp drained more battery. But the newer version seems just fine.
It's not free on iPhone. Well, even the first year of WhatsApp is NOT free on iPhone. So, maybe, that's why a lot of iPhone folks don't download/use it. They are fine using iMessage and SMS!
Whatsapp on my 9900 is always open and battery is as good as it should be. Around 10 hrs on 3G, with Gtalk, FB updates every 1 hr, Location/geotagging services on.
My cousins in the US on their Iphones, asked me if I use Whatsapp and whether it was good,since they heard it from someone about it. But after finding it costs money( .99 ) and there is no trial, decided against it. We chat on FB chat, if we have to.12-06-12 01:55 AMLike 0 - At the moment, Whatsapp is the 2nd most downloaded app in the App Store, right after Angry Birds Star Wars. Whatsapp has been in the top 5 for a very long time.12-06-12 02:06 AMLike 0
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