- Fantastic Program Pete,
This will help all of those who couldn't understand
the memory optimization post/thread
Looks great to! much fast than last!
May I suggest adding an option to remove:
1. DoD Root Certs
2. Password Keeper
3. All Shopping Icons
4. Foreign Fonts
5. net_rim_phone_tty_enabler.cod a file - for TTY (Deaf People)
all in all, great peice of work!Last edited by iamjoel5; 07-16-08 at 05:45 PM.
07-16-08 05:42 PMLike 0 - 07-16-08 06:18 PMLike 0
- Pete6Retired ModeratorFantastic Program Pete,
This will help all of those who couldn't understand
the memory optimization post/thread
Looks great to! much fast than last!
May I suggest adding an option to remove:
1. DoD Root Certs Not worth it. It is small and can be removed by DM. The video is in there because it is so big and such a menace.
2. Password Keeper Not worth it. It is small and can be removed by DM
3. All Shopping Icons Do you know the filenames? Would be most helpful.
4. Foreign Fonts Do you know the filenames? Would be most helpful.
5. net_rim_phone_tty_enabler.cod a file - for TTY (Deaf People) This is only 2Kb
all in all, great peice of work!
I can put a modeule remove selection in for anything that has a filename(s) in the Java folder. If you want stuff removed, try to get me specific filenales.
There may come a time when I have to change the look of the program as it is beginning to get too tall for my screen.
I will be releaseing v2.1 next week with a few extra Removes (Yahoo, AIM, MSN) but I can still add others.07-16-08 06:21 PMLike 0 - Fantastic Program Pete,
This will help all of those who couldn't understand
the memory optimization post/thread
Looks great to! much fast than last!
May I suggest adding an option to remove:
1. DoD Root Certs
2. Password Keeper
3. All Shopping Icons
4. Foreign Fonts
5. net_rim_phone_tty_enabler.cod a file - for TTY (Deaf People)
all in all, great peice of work!
Along with these files is there a way to remove the pre-installed ring tones. I know on my phone there are a ton and I don't use any of them.
Great program though and it is so much easier than manually removing the files.07-16-08 08:54 PMLike 0 - 1. What is vendor.xml and what does removing it do?
The Vendor.xml file is a resource used by RIM to decide if a particular OS and version may be installed on a given phone model, or vendor (carrier sold) device. It prevents verion of an OS being installed on a phone sold by one carrier that may not ahve been released by another. Delting Vendor.xml removes this restriction and allows any version of an OS to be installed on the same model phone.
2. What are the vendor themes?
Vendor (carrier) themes are themes that are forcibly installed on a phone at OS installation time. Themes take u a lot of memory. Each theme consumes different amounts of memory depending on is size, type and complexity. I remove all the carrier themes. There are a lot of them and more apear each time RIM sells its phones to a new carrier. I cannot remove them individually. There are just too many. Remeber that an at&t phone will only have the at&t themes installed. If you tell me a theme that is deleivered with a particular OS then I can tell you the file to remove and how to do it. I can also tell you how to put one single theme (file) back on your phone. Just ask.
What I want basically are two themes -- icon and L. If all that is removed with the vendor theme is the Alltel wallpaper and not the two I've mentioned, I'd be fine with that.Last edited by wbailey; 07-16-08 at 09:13 PM. Reason: corrected typos
07-16-08 09:11 PMLike 0 - I second the above. Not sure how much it would save, but I'm all for getting rid of what isn't needed. Are shopping icons the things the carriers install such as Facebook, etc. that are controlled by the service books? Or are they something else? I just hid all those icons, but if I could get rid of programs I don't use that Alltel forces on me, I'd love that!07-16-08 09:16 PMLike 0
- Just to confirm your previous post - even though you answered it yourself - CrackMem will display any OS that is installed. The display is dynamic and it goes off and LOOKS for installed OSs aand displayed them all (up to 9).
I can put a modeule remove selection in for anything that has a filename(s) in the Java folder. If you want stuff removed, try to get me specific filenales.
There may come a time when I have to change the look of the program as it is beginning to get too tall for my screen.
I will be releaseing v2.1 next week with a few extra Removes (Yahoo, AIM, MSN) but I can still add others.
Even though you don't think it's worth it, I'll still post a few just for the sake of thouroughness:
Dod Cert Roots = net_rim_DoDRootCerts.cod
Password Keeper = net_rim_bb_passwordkeeper.cod and any other .cod's associated with passwordkeeper.
Shopping Apps = Do not have at this time
Foreign Fonts = They will have the general theme of "net_rim_font_korean.cod"
--> Note: These can also be removed while installing the OS (i know you know that Pete, that was for the readers )
TTY = and of course "net_rim_phone_tty_enabler.cod"
Note: Quincy, Battery Log, Bugreport can be simply removed by Control Panel>Add/Remove Programs, and just remove the program from your computer. This was seen in 4.5.0.44 and possibly higher for the 8310, not loaded in every OS. (Again for the viewers)Last edited by iamjoel5; 07-16-08 at 09:52 PM.
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them. Hiding is the best bet.07-16-08 10:08 PMLike 0 - One thing I would like is "leave only vendor theme". I only use the tmo theme bc I like bottom docked and integrated myfaves. Otherwise looks very nice.
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com07-16-08 10:08 PMLike 0 - Pete6Retired ModeratorI do not have all the names for them off hand at the momemt, but I can research them after awhile. I do not have the time right now
Even though you don't think it's worth it, I'll still post a few just for the sake of thouroughness:
Dod Cert Roots = net_rim_DoDRootCerts.cod
Password Keeper = net_rim_bb_passwordkeeper.cod and any other .cod's associated with passwordkeeper.
Shopping Apps = Do not have at this time
Foreign Fonts = They will have the general theme of "net_rim_font_korean.cod"
--> Note: These can also be removed while installing the OS (i know you know that Pete, that was for the readers )
TTY = and of course "net_rim_phone_tty_enabler.cod"
Note: Quincy, Battery Log, Bugreport can be simply removed by Control Panel>Add/Remove Programs, and just remove the program from your computer. This was seen in 4.5.0.44 and possibly higher for the 8310, not loaded in every OS. (Again for the viewers)
The shopping apps are the real pest. If you can just let me have the names of the shops or web sites of the ads then I will start to track down the filenames. I may not get all of them first time but I can expand this in future versions until they are all gone. But if these are deliivered by Service Bokks as suggested above then there is not much that I can do. The best solution there is to do a Menu, Hide on the icon.
TTY, net_rim_phone_tty_enabler.cod is only 2KbLast edited by Pete6; 07-17-08 at 01:26 AM.
07-17-08 01:24 AMLike 0 - Pete6Retired Moderator
Similary if you want MyFaves then just leave it unchecked.
On my AT&T phone I too can leave MyFaves unchecked because MyFaves is a T-Mobile only app.07-17-08 01:31 AMLike 0 - Dod Cert Roots, Password Keeper Can be removed by DEsktop Manager easily at any time.
The shopping apps are the real pest. If you can just let me have the names of the shops or web sites of the ads then I will start to track down the filenames. I may not get all of them first time but I can expand this in future versions until they are all gone. But if these are deliivered by Service Bokks as suggested above then there is not much that I can do. The best solution there is to do a Menu, Hide on the icon.
TTY, net_rim_phone_tty_enabler.cod is only 2Kb
Thanks for the responses Pete, that's about all I could think of that could possibly be added to your software. Great prog!07-17-08 02:14 AMLike 0 - Pete6Retired Moderator
I am reluctant to duplicate removals that can be accomplished in Desktop Manager since I reckon that RIM does a better job than me in not installing apps.
What I am trying to is to get the major surplus memory hogs off the phone.
I am not really trying to offer a right-down-to-the-byte configuration service.07-17-08 02:21 AMLike 0 - This looks outstanding, Pete! I was hesitant to try the other version, so this will be much better for most people I'd think. Though I used DOS a lot, it was years ago so I was afraid of screwing it up.
2. What are the vendor themes? Are there themes hidden there for companies other than my provider (Alltel) I don't know about or are you referring to the default themes that come preinstalled (zen, L, icon, today)? I don't use my Alltel wallpaper, but don't want to remove all themes either. I use the default L theme right now, but at times I switch to icon so I want to have the installed themes there since other themes build on them.Can you select which ones to remove or does this remove all of them?
I don't use alot of themes, so I delete all that I can. However, you need to keep your carrier specific theme, and IMO, all basic net_rim_theme_bbdimension themes.(these themes will NOT have a vendor number associated with them)
So, if you're on AT&T I recommend you leave AT&T's theme and bbdimension themes...delete the rest. Carrier vendor numbers are as followed:
AT&T: 102
VZW:105
Sprint: 104
T-MO: 100
Rogers: 107
Bell: 109
Telefonica: 129
TIM: 115
T-MO UK: 114
Vodafone: 120
O2: 125
Orange: 119
-I.E. This will be a theme for AT&T - net_rim_theme_102a_icon_320x240_b.cod
so basically if I have AT&T I would remove all net_rim_theme_*** that didn't have "102" listed in the name"
These will be found in => C:\ProgramFiles\CommonFiles\ResearchInMotion\Share d\LoaderFiles--then click on your version OSLast edited by iamjoel5; 07-17-08 at 02:29 AM.
07-17-08 02:24 AMLike 0 - Pete6Retired Moderator
I also want to try and put in a confirmation password 'BrickMyPhone' to confirm the 'Wipe Device' selection button. The password will be published on the button and in the help text. It is just that I do not want people accidentally bricking phones and losing all their personal data by accident.07-17-08 02:27 AMLike 0 - Pete6Retired ModeratorHere is a list Themes
I don't use alot of themes, so I delete all that I can. However, you need to keep your carrier specific theme, and IMO, all basic net_rim_theme_bbdimension themes.(these themes will NOT have a vendor number associated with them)
So, if you're on AT&T I recommend you leave AT&T's theme and bbdimension themes...delete the rest. Carrier vendor numbers are as followed:
AT&T: 102
VZW:105
Sprint: 104
T-MO: 100
Rogers: 107
Bell: 109
Telefonica: 129
TIM: 115
T-MO UK: 114
Vodafone: 120
O2: 125
Orange: 119
-I.E. This will be a theme for AT&T - net_rim_theme_102a_icon_320x240_b.cod
so basically if I have AT&T I would remove all net_rim_theme_*** that didn't have "102" listed in the name"
These will be found in => C:\ProgramFiles\CommonFiles\ResearchInMotion\Share d\LoaderFiles--then click on your version OS
I leave the BBDimension themes as they (especially Zen) are needed to provide all other themes with 'video libraries' for want of a better term.07-17-08 03:02 AMLike 0 - Pete6Retired Moderator
EDIT|: I just checked and what I removie is the wallpapers (net_rim_bb_media_320x240_b.cod and net_rim_bb_media_240x260_b.cod) which saves between 2 & 3 Mb depending on device and OS version.
I do not touch the icons, tunes and pictures for two reasons.
1. I was advised by John Clark not to do this since the themes sometimes use these files
2. It only saves about 70 Kb of memory.Last edited by Pete6; 07-17-08 at 07:36 AM.
07-17-08 06:15 AMLike 0 - I'll try to find out about the shopping apps. If you have any on your phone then please have a look at your service books to see if this is how they are distributed. For sure these are a pain in the a$$ and we would all be better off without them.
I am reluctant to duplicate removals that can be accomplished in Desktop Manager since I reckon that RIM does a better job than me in not installing apps.
What I am trying to is to get the major surplus memory hogs off the phone.
I am not really trying to offer a right-down-to-the-byte configuration service.
Wouldn't they just be reestablished once the service book were
resent if, in fact, there was a way to remove them?
Edit: I wonder if we can have technical support remove them
from my device specific service book file so they will never be sent
...hmmm. I will call and report back.Last edited by iamjoel5; 07-17-08 at 12:34 PM.
07-17-08 11:53 AMLike 0 - Reed McLayRetired ModeratorSweet, just gave it a workout with the latest and greatest.
Works great.07-17-08 12:46 PMLike 0
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