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  1. The_Dark_Knight_Forever's Avatar
    I can’t speak for jackcarr but I chose Keyone BE over the Key2 LE for price and over the Key2 since I’m not a capacitive PKB fan to begin with.
    Why not a capacitive PKB fan? What are the pitfalls of it?

    Sent from my BBD100-2 using CB Forums mobile app
    06-08-19 08:52 AM
  2. jackcarr's Avatar
    Why did you choose the KEYone instead of the KEYtwo?
    And why is it more enjoyable to use than the Motion?
    Price mostly. As far as liking it better than the Motion...all I can say is that it just feels better overall, physical keyboard is great. I never thought I would say that again. The Motion's battery is slightly better than the KEYone's, but honestly I think they're both overkill.
    06-08-19 09:20 AM
  3. The_Dark_Knight_Forever's Avatar
    Price mostly. As far as liking it better than the Motion...all I can say is that it just feels better overall, physical keyboard is great. I never thought I would say that again. The Motion's battery is slightly better than the KEYone's, but honestly I think they're both overkill.
    Interesting. I kind of miss using my Q10 (except for the double typing issue) because I typed faster & more accurately on the PKB. But I like that I can type virtually silently on a VKB & I have more display real estate too.
    With that said, BlackBerry's VKB on Android is pretty wonky with it's stupid auto corrections & swipe issues. I do like the tool bar on it. But I still prefer the VKB on BB10 which is superior IMO.
    06-08-19 09:44 AM
  4. jackcarr's Avatar
    Don't get me wrong...I like the Motion. I bought it unlocked when it came out and that was my farewell to the physical keyboard. But I saw a new unlocked Black Edition KEYone on sale for $279 and I pulled the trigger. Not sorry I did.
    06-08-19 09:57 AM
  5. The_Dark_Knight_Forever's Avatar
    Don't get me wrong...I like the Motion. I bought it unlocked when it came out and that was my farewell to the physical keyboard. But I saw a new unlocked Black Edition KEYone on sale for $279 and I pulled the trigger. Not sorry I did.
    That's cool & a good deal. For me I have a love/hate relationship with the Motion. It is my daily driver but I miss my time using the Z30 when it was still being supported. I loved the size & feel of it with an OtterBox case on it, the 5" AMOLED display, the amazing stereo speakers & the BB10 OS. Even with only 2 GB of RAM it ran as smoothly as the 4 GB Motion & the battery life is arguably the same IMO despite the capacity difference. I chalk that up to BB10 just being a much more efficient OS than Android.
    06-08-19 10:10 AM
  6. jackcarr's Avatar
    I hear ya. I absolutely loved my Passport.
    06-08-19 10:24 AM
  7. oldsoul123's Avatar
    I'll worry about that when my Motion no longer works for me, and I don't see that happening any time soon.
    06-08-19 11:10 AM
  8. bh7171's Avatar
    My BE Keyone is my most preferred device. One has to feel and use one to fully understand. For me it is clickyness of the excellent keyboard, super efficient keyboard shortcuts, ideal screen to key ratio, snappy performance and best battery life of any mobile device I have used or own. Some my scoff at this but I prefer a LCD panel to Amoled. My BlackBerry BE Keyone is far easier to see and use in Sunlight than my S9 or the 3a I have been using.
    06-08-19 11:15 AM
  9. Rasheed White's Avatar
    I went to a galaxy s10. I wanted a better camera with a massive battery. loaded the blackberry apps and I love it - though it wasn't cheap
    I just bought the s10 today and got the BlackBerry apps
    06-08-19 05:04 PM
  10. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    Why not a capacitive PKB fan? What are the pitfalls of it?

    Sent from my BBD100-2 using CB Forums mobile app
    I've used and owned just about every BlackBerry since 2003 of both the PKB and VKB forms. I've dual carried all the other various mobile OS as well. Currently, I dual carry XR and BE KEYone and I can't stand the capacitive PKB since I've never felt I need it. Part of that is that I move between mobile OS and devices so I don't really dedicate time learning all the intricacies.

    The major pitfalls for me are the various things it tries doing for me as secondary function. Adding that people here disagree on whether it's sensitive enough or too sensitive. I just need a PKB to be just that. As far as VKB, BlackBerry relies on SwiftKey and I'm ok with that. For me, BlackBerry represents a PKB and little more. The KISS principle is what I think should apply here and not try and be everything to everyone.
    06-08-19 06:10 PM
  11. lou2969's Avatar
    sorry for the dumb question,
    you are saying that just the operative system "Pie" it's already a huge jump forward?
    06-09-19 08:44 AM
  12. evaliket's Avatar
    I bought a galaxy 9+ and the phone signal is terrible on att so I am returning it. Hopefully I can find a good replacement for the BB
    06-09-19 11:39 AM
  13. the_boon's Avatar
    I chalk that up to BB10 just being a much more efficient OS than Android.
    By more efficient, you don't mean more battery efficient lol right ?
    06-10-19 10:54 PM
  14. skilas's Avatar
    That's cool & a good deal. For me I have a love/hate relationship with the Motion. It is my daily driver but I miss my time using the Z30 when it was still being supported. I loved the size & feel of it with an OtterBox case on it, the 5" AMOLED display, the amazing stereo speakers & the BB10 OS. Even with only 2 GB of RAM it ran as smoothly as the 4 GB Motion & the battery life is arguably the same IMO despite the capacity difference. I chalk that up to BB10 just being a much more efficient OS than Android.
    This brings back good memories of my Z30. I held onto it past my contract because I couldn't find a suitable replacement. Eventually got a Motion. It's a good successor. But not a great one.
    06-11-19 11:49 AM
  15. The_Dark_Knight_Forever's Avatar
    By more efficient, you don't mean more battery efficient lol right ?
    I do mean efficient with the battery & user productivity. There are some Androids that are efficient with the battery but I feel that the users productivity is hampered by an overly complicated OS that takes more steps to get things done as compared to the intuitive BB10 OS. Getting things done with BB10 was just breeze whereas I find it irritating with Android in general. Just my opinion.
    06-11-19 12:57 PM
  16. the_boon's Avatar
    I do mean efficient with the battery & user productivity. There are some Androids that are efficient with the battery but I feel that the users productivity is hampered by an overly complicated OS that takes more steps to get things done as compared to the intuitive BB10 OS. Getting things done with BB10 was just breeze whereas I find it irritating with Android in general. Just my opinion.
    Right, but as far as battery optimization goes, Android now (and even since Nougat) is way ahead of BB10, especially if we're talking Android apk's on BB10.
    I owned several Passports and Classics and especially with the latter I was disappointed in the battery endurance, both in standby and in use.
    06-11-19 03:27 PM
  17. evaliket's Avatar
    I bought a galaxy 9+ and the phone signal is terrible on att so I am returning it. Hopefully I can find a good replacement for the BB
    Fortunately I located a new Motion to replace my failing one and the galaxy 9+. Luckily was able to return the galaxy for a full refund and this evens out the purchase of the new Motion
    06-11-19 07:10 PM
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