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  1. thurask's Avatar
    Since the world phone is a lost art, here's all of the variants of the BlackBerry Motion that we know of.

    As for where the phone works, consult the band list and which networks you want to use it on before going with where the phone works best; you might find a model not intended for your carrier just happens to have perfect band support, although ancillary services like WiFi calling are not guaranteed.

    The list:

    BBD100-1
    CODENAME: bbd100global
    LTE: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 7 / 8 / 12 / 13 / 17 / 19 / 20 / 26 / 28 / 32 / 38 / 39 / 40 / 41
    UMTS: 1 / 2 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 8
    GSM: 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
    CDMA: none
    SIMS: 1
    Where it works best: International GSM (South America, Asia, Europe, Africa, Oceania)
    Is it released yet? Yes
    Will it be released? N/A

    BBD100-2
    CODENAME: bbd100americas/bbd100americasatt
    LTE: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 7 / 8 / 12 / 13 / 17 / 20 / 28 / 29 / 30 / 38 / 39 / 40 / 41 / 66
    UMTS: 1 / 2 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 8
    GSM: 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
    CDMA: none
    SIMS: 1
    Where it works best: Canada, United States GSM (AT&T/T-Mobile/etc.)
    Is it released yet? Yes (Canada)/No (AT&T)
    Will it be released? N/A (Canada)/No (AT&T)

    BBD100-3
    CODENAME: bbd100cdma/bbd100cdmasprint
    LTE: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 7 / 8 / 12 / 13 / 17 / 20 / 25 / 26 / 28 / 38 / 39 / 40 / 41 / 66
    UMTS: 1 / 2 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 8
    GSM: 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
    CDMA: 0 / 1 / 10
    SIMS: 1
    Where it works best: United States CDMA (Verizon/Sprint)
    Is it released yet? No
    Will it be released? No

    BBD100-4
    CODENAME: ???
    LTE: ???
    UMTS: ???
    GSM: ???
    CDMA: ???
    SIMS: ???
    Where it works best: ???
    Is it released yet? No
    Will it be released? No

    BBD100-5
    CODENAME: ???
    LTE: 1 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 7 / 8 / 12 / 28 / 34 / 38 / 39 / 40 / 41
    UMTS: 1 / 2 / 4 / 5 / 8
    GSM: 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
    CDMA: 0
    SIMS: 2
    Where it works best: China
    Is it released yet? No
    Will it be released? No

    BBD100-6
    CODENAME: bbd100dsglobal
    LTE: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 7 / 8 / 12 / 13 / 17 / 19 / 20 / 26 / 28 / 32 / 38 / 39 / 40 / 41
    UMTS: 1 / 2 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 8
    GSM: 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
    CDMA: none
    SIMS: 2
    Where it works best: International GSM (South America, Asia, Europe, Africa, Oceania)
    Is it released yet? Yes
    Will it be released? N/A

    BBD100-7
    CODENAME: bbd100dsamericas/bbd100dsamericasatt
    LTE: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 7 / 8 / 12 / 13 / 17 / 20 / 28 / 29 / 30 / 38 / 39 / 40 / 41 / 66
    UMTS: 1 / 2 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 8
    GSM: 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
    CDMA: none
    SIMS: 2
    Where it works best: Canada, United States GSM (AT&T/T-Mobile/etc.)
    Is it released yet? No
    Will it be released? No
    Last edited by thurask; 06-09-18 at 10:39 AM.
    10-05-17 09:32 PM
  2. danfrancisco's Avatar
    Thanks, thurask! Is there any info on which variant might support dual sim?
    10-05-17 10:05 PM
  3. AmritD's Avatar
    Thanks, thurask! Is there any info on which variant might support dual sim?
    I guess the correct question should be whether any model will support Dual Sim or not?

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    10-05-17 10:33 PM
  4. thurask's Avatar
    Thanks, thurask! Is there any info on which variant might support dual sim?
    No idea. I think the -1 and -2 are single SIM.
    10-05-17 11:55 PM
  5. BB-JAM215's Avatar
    I guess the correct question should be whether any model will support Dual Sim or not?
    Given how important building carrier support is to TCL, a dual SIM version is not very likely.
    10-06-17 01:01 AM
  6. Azumarill's Avatar
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    He was always correct with information leading up to the KeyOne launch, aside from a statement that it was "coming to Verizon" - all that ever happened, clearly, was the CDMA variant.
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    10-06-17 05:17 AM
  7. neoberry99's Avatar
    No tmobile?
    10-06-17 09:29 AM
  8. danfrancisco's Avatar
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    He was always correct with information leading up to the KeyOne launch, aside from a statement that it was "coming to Verizon" - all that ever happened, clearly, was the CDMA variant.
    I hope the dual SIM Motion is easier to import to Canada than the dual SIM KEYone! Fingers crossed that this variant will be available in a more import/export friendly market (i.e. UK)!
    10-06-17 09:30 AM
  9. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    I hope the dual SIM Motion is easier to import to Canada than the dual SIM KEYone! Fingers crossed that this variant will be available in a more import/export friendly market (i.e. UK)!
    Dual SIM isn't a TCL marketed device if memory serves me this early in the morning. That won't change in the future since TCL doesn't want to upset carriers. If competition dictates any demand, TCL will offer in those countries where the demand is great enough to be profitable.
    10-06-17 09:35 AM
  10. danfrancisco's Avatar
    Dual SIM isn't a TCL marketed device if memory serves me this early in the morning. That won't change in the future since TCL doesn't want to upset carriers. If competition dictates any demand, TCL will offer in those countries where the demand is great enough to be profitable.
    Good point. Optiemus had the license to sell the dual SIM device in India. That said, isn't upsetting the carriers more of a North American thing? I thought dual SIM usage was a lot more common in Europe? If so, wouldn't TCL consider making the BBD100-1 a dual SIM?

    I've gotten so used to using the dual SIM KEYone that I can't imagine going back to carrying two phones!
    10-06-17 09:39 AM
  11. thurask's Avatar
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    He was always correct with information leading up to the KeyOne launch, aside from a statement that it was "coming to Verizon" - all that ever happened, clearly, was the CDMA variant.
    From his other tweets I think he's digging into the Motion OS rather than going off of an informant. If one were to dig into the KEYone OS they'd find a Verizon-branded variant that only exists in software. Whether or not the Motion will actually release on Verizon, Sprint, or AT&T is therefore similarly unable to be determined from software alone.
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    10-06-17 09:46 AM
  12. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    Good point. Optiemus had the license to sell the dual SIM device in India. That said, isn't upsetting the carriers more of a North American thing? I thought dual SIM usage was a lot more common in Europe? If so, wouldn't TCL consider making the BBD100-1 a dual SIM?

    I've gotten so used to using the dual SIM KEYone that I can't imagine going back to carrying two phones!
    OEMs looking to develop a brand in NA will not want to create a device that can be easily imported and used on the NA carrier networks. Especially if the device will not generate enough profits to offset the lost goodwill from those NA carriers. Just look at some of the more established OEMs like Sony. I believe Sony blocks fingerprint reader to keep at least one NA carrier happy.
    10-06-17 09:55 AM
  13. danfrancisco's Avatar
    OEMs looking to develop a brand in NA will not want to create a device that can be easily imported and used on the NA carrier networks. Especially if the device will not generate enough profits to offset the lost goodwill from those NA carriers. Just look at some of the more established OEMs like Sony. I believe Sony blocks fingerprint reader to keep at least one NA carrier happy.
    I agree with you there. In my case, I never buy from carriers and always purchase my phones via direct channels or unlocked suppliers. I actually own a Sony Xperia Z3 Compact with the fingerprint scanner enabled. I wanted a very compact waterproof phone back in 2015 and my research led me to that device. When I saw that the fingerprint scanner variant was not available in North America, I was looking to import the EU model. Luckily I found a cell phone dealer that imports a lot of devices so I didn't have to leave Toronto to get it. Getting it to work on Rogers required me to futz around with the APN settings but I'm used to that given all the non-NA phones I own.

    I'm happy to go through whatever hoops I need to bring a dual SIM Motion into Canada. I only hope that Roland's tweet is accurate. If a dual SIM Motion exists somewhere on this planet, I'm going to get it (provided it supports Rogers' LTE bands of course!)
    10-06-17 10:24 AM
  14. mrigd's Avatar
    Will this phone support 5G?

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    10-06-17 12:24 PM
  15. supertom's Avatar
    Wouldn't it be much more convenient just to have ONE Variant with ALL the radios like what Apple and Motorola does? (Moto G5 Plus works on Sprint, T-mobile, etc) I'm not sure what all the logistics are and how much extra it would cost to do that, but I would think it would solve all of the stock-out issues if they just mass-produced ONE model that could work EVERYWHERE!
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    10-06-17 12:41 PM
  16. thurask's Avatar
    Wouldn't it be much more convenient just to have ONE Variant with ALL the radios like what Apple and Motorola does? (Moto G5 Plus works on Sprint, T-mobile, etc) I'm not sure what all the logistics are and how much extra it would cost to do that, but I would think it would solve all of the stock-out issues if they just mass-produced ONE model that could work EVERYWHERE!
    It would, but that would make too much sense. Apple has three variants per iPhone model anyway (international GSM, CDMA, Japan because Japan just has to be different).

    Will this phone support 5G?

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    Is 5G a thing yet?
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    10-06-17 12:50 PM
  17. mrigd's Avatar


    Is 5G a thing yet?
    Well, Indian government has declared to implement 5G by 2020 so anything launching after 2017 better have 5G at least for Indian market

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    10-06-17 02:14 PM
  18. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    Will this phone support 5G?

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    Sure, probably 6G too. I can make it 7G compliant for 8G. PM me for the address to send the envelope with $100 bills.
    10-06-17 02:29 PM
  19. big_time2's Avatar
    It would, but that would make too much sense.
    Heyooooooo! Shots fired!
    10-06-17 02:29 PM
  20. cbvinh's Avatar
    No tmobile?
    Does it matter if there's a T-Mobile-branded device, other than for people who want to buy with installments? As long as T-Mobile supports all the features, like they've been doing, it's better off to buy factory unlocked for OS updates anyway. Oh, I guess there's the possibility of quicker replacements with brick-n-mortar, but it seems most carriers don't stock enough so there'll be a wait anyway.
    10-06-17 02:48 PM
  21. Bla1ze's Avatar
    Well, Indian government has declared to implement 5G by 2020 so anything launching after 2017 better have 5G at least for Indian market

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    lol. You have high expectations.
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    10-06-17 03:35 PM
  22. thurask's Avatar
    Well, Indian government has declared to implement 5G by 2020 so anything launching after 2017 better have 5G at least for Indian market

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    Is that before or after becoming a superpower?
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    10-06-17 03:56 PM
  23. mrigd's Avatar
    lol. You have high expectations.
    I thought Blackberry is brand to expect something in advance but it seems Blackberry loyalist themselves are not so hopeful.

    It's good to know how much is too much. Thanks

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    10-07-17 06:11 AM
  24. mrigd's Avatar
    Is that before or after becoming a superpower?
    http://www.thehindu.com/business/Ind...le17382743.ece

    You can ask them!

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    10-07-17 07:54 AM
  25. Bla1ze's Avatar
    I thought Blackberry is brand to expect something in advance but it seems Blackberry loyalist themselves are not so hopeful.

    It's good to know how much is too much. Thanks

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    Has nothing to do with BlackBerry users being hopeful. You asked for 5G compatibility 2/3 years (according to your India timeline) before release lol. Most people won't even have the phone by then. For that matter, Qualcomm won't even have their X50 NR 5G modems available commercially until 2019.
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    10-07-17 09:39 AM
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