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  1. heading4tomorrow's Avatar
    I transferred files on both bands to and from my PC sitting 5 feet away from that fancy Netgear router and I have never seen speeds above 27Mbps on either. In fact the 5GHZ often craps out for whatever reason.
    Either that fancy router is garbage or the Z10 is, or both. I have never seen anything near the theoretical speeds that are supposed to be possible.

    Posted via CB10
    Maybe your SD card is the problem?
    With cheap TP Link router, at 2.4 I get about 2-5MB/sec while I get about 10-12MB on 5ghz

    This is a huge difference.

    Sent from Z30 on Tapatalk
    04-29-15 10:29 PM
  2. FrankIAm's Avatar
    I have it on my Z10, and I do consider it overrated in my experience. I purposely do not use the 5GHZ band.

    Posted via CB10
    Yes, yes, doesn't matter if some of our devices have it, like Miracast and wireless charging.
    04-29-15 10:36 PM
  3. anon3969612's Avatar
    Yes, yes, doesn't matter if some of our devices have it, like Miracast and wireless charging.
    Oooooooooooooh... a swing and a miss there Frankie.

    Try again: either none of us have it and we're dismissively jealous or some of us do and we find it useless?

    Oh Oh oh I got it! All BlackBerry phones should have all features regardless of price point... kind of like.... well, no other phone manufacturer

    Awaiting typical snide condescending response
    Last edited by vorpalz; 04-30-15 at 12:02 AM.
    Thalestr likes this.
    04-29-15 11:48 PM
  4. cbvinh's Avatar
    Maybe your SD card is the problem?
    With cheap TP Link router, at 2.4 I get about 2-5MB/sec while I get about 10-12MB on 5ghz

    This is a huge difference.
    With Speed Tester, I get 21.66 Mb/s on 2.4 GHz and 24.38 Mb/s on 5 GHz. Not much difference.

    I do notice that 2.4 GHz does travel farther, as when coming home, the phone locks onto the 2.4 GHz band before the 5 GHz one.
    thymaster likes this.
    04-30-15 01:40 AM
  5. Thalestr's Avatar
    Yes, yes, doesn't matter if some of our devices have it, like Miracast and wireless charging.
    Lose the passive aggressiveness please. This section is truly bringing out the worst this forum has to offer. Such much toxicity here.

    Posted via Z10
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    04-30-15 03:12 AM
  6. LateToTheGame's Avatar
    It's getting better and better and I can't believe people can justify that a wireless device not having 5ghz support in 2015 and still expect people to buy that device for more money instead of better Z30.

    BlackBerry Pulled a real quick one with this Leap business.

    Sent from Z30 on Tapatalk
    Leap was less than half the price of Z30 at launch here in the UK and is still around 40 less than Z30 during the fire sale of old stock. My wife has a Leap and loves it. She came from a Galaxy S3 but doesn't run many apps and she LOVES the Hub. She couldn't give two s***s about 5GHz Wi-Fi.
    Last edited by LateToTheGame; 04-30-15 at 03:26 AM. Reason: To add "less than".
    04-30-15 03:25 AM
  7. Doggerz's Avatar
    What about 802.11ac ?


    Z30STA100-5 / 10.3.1.2708 / T-Mobile USA
    04-30-15 03:30 AM
  8. thymaster's Avatar
    What about it?

    AC use 5ghz band.

    What about 802.11ac ?


    Z30STA100-5 / 10.3.1.2708 / T-Mobile USA
    04-30-15 04:40 AM
  9. sk8er_tor's Avatar
    I've also disabled 5 GHz Wi-Fi on my router. It was just too problematic with all devices. Ever since I disabled it, I haven't had any issues.
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    04-30-15 10:16 AM
  10. bruce73's Avatar
    I guess I can't miss what I never had... Guess they're still working out the bugs because higher freq's should go further with less power.
    Further,yes, but 2.4 goes through walls better.

    Posted via CB10
    thymaster likes this.
    04-30-15 10:58 AM
  11. DrBoomBotz's Avatar
    5Ghz lack of penetration can be a good thing.
    I currently see ~18 2.4Ghz beacons and at the same time I see 1(mine) 5Ghz beacon.
    04-30-15 11:02 AM
  12. kbz1960's Avatar
    Is 5GHz Wireless better than 2.4GHz ? :: SG FAQ

    Although with many house cordless phones and other things in the house now using 5ghz around me I find that the 2.4ghz is less congested.
    04-30-15 11:13 AM
  13. AnimalPak200's Avatar
    5Ghz lack of penetration can be a good thing.
    I currently see ~18 2.4Ghz beacons and at the same time I see 1(mine) 5Ghz beacon.
    I think the main advantage of 5Ghz is that it is far less crowded, specially compared to the ridiculously overburdened 2.4Ghz (used by everything it seems).

    5Ghz should really be used for high throughput close-proximity connections. Things like connecting to your Smart TV, Roku, NAS, or media intensive desktop. The more you can off load those types of "fixed location devices" onto the 5Ghz band, the less crowded the 2.4Ghz bands will be for mobile devices that need a more reliably/consistent range/coverage (and are often less demanding on bandwidth).

    So from a practical standpoint, the Leap (a spartan, work-focused, budget device) not having 5Ghz is not as 'ridiculous' as the OP makes it seem.

    Posted via CB10
    04-30-15 11:19 AM
  14. Dr J39's Avatar
    It's getting better and better and I can't believe people can justify that a wireless device not having 5ghz support in 2015 and still expect people to buy that device for more money instead of better Z30.

    BlackBerry Pulled a real quick one with this Leap business.

    Sent from Z30 on Tapatalk
    The advantage depends on your environment. Some people will not see any improvement, but in an environment where many people are competing for the same bandwidth, the ability to switch to 5GHz, can be valuable.
    04-30-15 11:56 AM
  15. igor10000's Avatar
    There are tons of new cars without keyless entry, that is a wrong example
    04-30-15 12:10 PM
  16. undone's Avatar
    In a mixed environment I found 5 ghz just not as useful as I wished. The 2.4 ghz channels tend to be much stronger signals with greater flexibility.
    04-30-15 01:44 PM
  17. Soapm's Avatar
    There are tons of new cars without keyless entry, that is a wrong example
    There are tons of phones with no 5 ghz...
    04-30-15 01:48 PM
  18. BB-JAM215's Avatar
    That's all. End rant.

    Seriously tho, no 5G band!? This phone needs to be $199
    Is this just another specifications rant then, or is there some actual performance related issue here?
    04-30-15 02:05 PM
  19. johnkb24's Avatar
    5 GHz wifi band works wonders in my home. Speed is noticeable faster. Thats all.
    04-30-15 02:44 PM
  20. George_B's Avatar
    [QUOTE=thanasi;11601288]Read before you buy. All product specifications are listed on BlackBerry's website.

    How horrible is no 5Ghz band support? I'm curious.[/QUOTE

    5 GHz has much greater bandwidth, fewer users on 5 GHz, and therefore less congestion. 802.11ac now will provide greater data rate.

    Only downside is...if you absolutely are at the fringe of Wi-Fi coverage, 2.4 may be a bit better. But only for that situation.
    04-30-15 03:18 PM
  21. Bla1ze's Avatar
    That's all. End rant.

    Seriously tho, no 5G band!?
    This phone needs to be $199 asap

    Posted via BlackBerry Passport on AT&T

    I did tell you.

    BlackBerry Leap Review! | CrackBerry.com

    Aside from the LTE support, you also get 802.11 b/g/n Wi-Fi in the 2.4GHz flavor, as well as support for Mobile Hotspot.
    Official BlackBerry Leap Specs and Features | CrackBerry.com

    Wi-Fi - 802.11 b/g/n 2.4 GHz, 4G Mobile Hotspot, Video out via Wi-Fi Display / Miracast
    And so did BlackBerry

    BlackBerry Leap Specs ? Specifications for touchscreen BlackBerry Leap Smartphone - US

    Wi-Fi - 802.11 b/g/n 2.4 GHz, 4G Mobile Hotspot, Video out via Wi-Fi Display / Miracast
    But I digress. No one reads anyway lol.
    04-30-15 04:15 PM
  22. BCITMike's Avatar
    As Animal said above, 5GHz support is nice for environments with tons of APS and dense clients over short distances as there's many more channels to use, like in a sports stadium.

    At home, less benefits unless you have really strong signals.

    Posted via CB10
    04-30-15 04:25 PM
  23. diehardbbuser's Avatar
    Again stupidity by bb. Dual band routers are very common now, stupid stupid omission. Just again shows how overpriced tech the devices are. Appalling if you ask me not to include it.
    04-30-15 04:49 PM
  24. Hello Blackberry World's Avatar
    04-30-15 06:16 PM
  25. Troy Tiscareno's Avatar
    I think the main advantage of 5Ghz is that it is far less crowded, specially compared to the ridiculously overburdened 2.4Ghz (used by everything it seems).

    5Ghz should really be used for high throughput close-proximity connections. Things like connecting to your Smart TV, Roku, NAS, or media intensive desktop. The more you can off load those types of "fixed location devices" onto the 5Ghz band, the less crowded the 2.4Ghz bands will be for mobile devices that need a more reliably/consistent range/coverage (and are often less demanding on bandwidth).
    Please read this again, as it is 100% correct!

    Not putting 5GHz in the Leap is a very straightforward and sensible trade-off. Not putting 5GHz into a media streamer (AppleTV, Roku, ChromeCast, etc.) or some other fixed, media-heavy device that isn't likely (or capable) of having a wired connection - now THAT would be stupid. But that's not the issue here. BB made the right choice this time, if something needed to go to maintain their budget.
    bruce73 likes this.
    04-30-15 06:27 PM
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