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  1. Hazo's Avatar
    the z30 isnt a Cadillac, especially comparing it with the passport
    I disagree completely.... the Z30 is most definitely a Cadillac. As for the Passport, it's a different device, so I'm not comparing them to each other, just saying the are both Flagship devices, one all touch, the other physical keyboard.
    04-09-15 12:28 AM
  2. chopachain's Avatar
    Maybe BB trying to streamline devices. Z3 entry level device, leap is in the middle and Venice will be the high end device. All with more or less the same look. Having the same chassis and covers save's on production costs.
    04-09-15 01:14 AM
  3. clickitykeys's Avatar
    The Leap is a perfectly good phone for 95% of smartphone owners. Some people cannot help but complain about the Leap (or any other smartphone) because they devote too much time to useless smartphone-related "first-world" pursuits.

    I should know. I am one of them. I'm on a web-forum discussing smartphone choices :-).

    Q10/10.3.1.2582
    04-09-15 01:25 AM
  4. jmr1015's Avatar
    The Leap is a perfectly good phone for 95% of smartphone owners. Some people cannot help but complain about the Leap (or any other smartphone) because they devote too much time to useless smartphone-related "first-world" pursuits.

    I should know. I am one of them. I'm on a web-forum discussing smartphone choices :-).

    Q10/10.3.1.2582
    The only problem with that reasoning/defense of the Leap, is that if all you're looking for is a "perfectly good phone for 95% of smartphone owners" you can find plenty of devices that fit that bill, for cheaper than $275.
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    04-09-15 02:22 AM
  5. LostOnThePianoRoll's Avatar
    It's given a hard time because it's a mid range device released when there isn't a flagship device even on the map.

    You can't release a mid range device without having a flagship.

    An all touch flagship for that matter, since BlackBerry currently seems to be running 3 product lines, and all 3 need both high end and midrange.

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    04-09-15 02:37 AM
  6. adigawi's Avatar
    ...while I'm very excited and can't wait to grab one of those Leap phones. I had z10, then for over a year z30 which I think was a really great phone. Now decided to change for sth new (new doesn't mean hi-end for me). It has a new look which I actually like, I like phones with square corners and regular shape, I like that it has a usb port on the bottom. I like LCD screen even with HD res, I don't see too much difference between HD and FHD. For me the most important is HUB, SDcard slot, 5inch screen, large battery, and the quality. So I think that people are hating Leap because they expect something similar to Note 4 , LG G3, Xperia range, etc. with all those sensors, RAM's, QHD's, bla bla bla.
    04-09-15 07:26 AM
  7. chrissmartin's Avatar
    When Z3 was released,i was passed off with the qHD screen and the slow... snapdragon 400 dual core cpu then I thought price would justify it...but nooo....In India it costs about 13k which is in the same league as moto g 2nd Gen which is far more better in every way.Then came Leap and look they changed to an old though much more powerful cpu (S4-dual krait) why...???
    The screen is somewhat better but camera and cpu just sucks,it should be priced half for what it is selling for , In the same price range it should at least be a snapdragon 410 or 400(with quad a7 @ 1.6 ghz or something).....I have developed apps for BB10 and Z10 is a good device now(price now pretty much same as z3,atleast in india)...and I have the Z10 LE which gorgeous but come on,but for BlackBerry to revive and maintain it's stand,they have to bring much much better Full Touch devices and better pricing.

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    04-09-15 09:00 AM
  8. thurask's Avatar
    It may be mostly the same as the Z10, but it's still improved in other areas. I'm pretty sure more people are complaining about battery life than CPU, which the Leap addresses.

    And as for the Z30 pricing, it came out a year and a half ago and in limited quantity. Of course the price will have depreciated from launch.

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    04-09-15 09:38 AM
  9. marshalayy's Avatar
    The leap is meant as more of a Z3 upgrade. Not as a high end phone

    Posted via CB10
    04-09-15 12:00 PM
  10. bb10adopter111's Avatar
    People that bought the Z10 and Z30 2 years ago are looking for an upgrade to their phone.

    The Z3 is in no way an upgrade, so that's why people are pissed off about the leap.

    People are expecting a new touchscreen phone I with the passports specs, but seems it's not gonna happen soon.

    Posted via CB10
    People, please stop trying to speak for other people. I bought my first Z10 on launch day, and recently bought another for my wife. I am not looking for an upgrade. There's no law that says cell phones only last two years. That's just the historical length of carrier contract upgrade cycles.

    Thanks to OS upgrades, I'm almost certain my z10 has another 12-18 months of life. There's absolutely nothing wrong with a leap-type phone in the $300 range for enterprise bulk purchases. It's a tool, not a lifestyle. And it will out-communicate Android phones with better specs. If I'm buying 20 or 1,000 phones for my business, I only care about how productive my staff will be with them, not the hardware.

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    04-09-15 01:37 PM
  11. NRB's Avatar
    Hello,

    I'm a little confused with what the exact specification of the BlackBerry Leap are.

    BlackBerry Leap :
    Qualcomm MSM8960 Snapdragon S4 Plus
    Dual-core 1.5 GHz Krait
    Adreno 305
    2GB RAM

    BlackBerry Z10:
    Qualcomm MSM8960 Snapdragon
    Dual-core 1.5 Krait
    Adreno 225
    2GB RAM

    If I'm not mistaken there is a difference between the Z10 and the Leap.
    For the record, I'm not sure about this.

    Regards

    Z10 STL100-3/10.3.1.2708/CB10
    04-09-15 04:39 PM
  12. jmr1015's Avatar
    Hello,

    I'm a little confused with what the exact specification of the BlackBerry Leap are.

    BlackBerry Leap :
    Qualcomm MSM8960 Snapdragon S4 Plus
    Dual-core 1.5 GHz Krait
    Adreno 305
    2GB RAM

    BlackBerry Z10:
    Qualcomm MSM8960 Snapdragon
    Dual-core 1.5 Krait
    Adreno 225
    2GB RAM

    If I'm not mistaken there is a difference between the Z10 and the Leap.
    For the record, I'm not sure about this.

    Regards

    Z10 STL100-3/10.3.1.2708/CB10
    The CPU is the same, the GPU is a slight upgrade, but neither are as good as the MSM8960T Snapdragon S4 Pro & Adreno 320 found in the Z30.
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    04-09-15 06:52 PM
  13. thanasi's Avatar
    The CPU is the same, the GPU is a slight upgrade, but neither are as good as the MSM8960T Snapdragon S4 Pro & Adreno 320 found in the Z30.
    The GPU is a slight upgrade? What's the difference in the Z10 vs Leap GPUs?

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    04-10-15 12:48 AM
  14. NRB's Avatar
    The GPU is a slight upgrade? What's the difference in the Z10 vs Leap GPUs?

    Posted via CB10
    Hello,

    Leap: Adreno 305
    Z10: Adreno 225

    Regards

    Z10 STL100-3/10.3.1.2708/CB10
    04-10-15 01:31 AM
  15. ronfc's Avatar
    Just because you saw one or two negative comments about the Leap doesn't mean it's what everybody thinks. I say it's a good choice for people who doesn't want the Z3 but can't afford the Z30. It's a middle ground.

    Cave, cave, moderator videt
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    04-10-15 01:37 AM
  16. thanasi's Avatar
    Hello,

    Leap: Adreno 305
    Z10: Adreno 225

    Regards

    Z10 STL100-3/10.3.1.2708/CB10
    Okay, but what is the difference? How much of an advantage does the 305 have over the 225? Realistically, would one feel a difference when comparing the Z10 to the Leap?

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    04-10-15 05:42 AM
  17. Maxxxpower's Avatar
    It's almost the same as the Z30 which is great. Not "modern" specs but they are still decent
    No.

    Leap: Adreno 305
    Z10: Adreno 225
    Wrong specs. Both have an Adreno 225.
    The SoC is from 2012 and was already outdated by the time Z10 launched.
    04-10-15 06:20 AM
  18. menshawy's Avatar
    No.


    Wrong specs. Both have an Adreno 225.
    The SoC is from 2012 and was already outdated by the time Z10 launched.
    You're entitled to your opinion as I do. I have a Z30 and I believe it's great! with more than 20 apps installed, many of them running headless, work account, heavy usage and it doesn't complain and it's 2015
    04-10-15 06:26 AM
  19. Maxxxpower's Avatar
    Yeah but Z30 is much more powerful than Z10/Q10/Classic/Leap. The SoC is by far not "almost the same". It's noticeably faster, both when using native and Android apps. Most people think: 1.5 Ghz vs 1.7 Ghz S4 = almost the same. In fact the SoC of the Z30 is more like a dual core version of the Snapdragon 600.
    Z 30 has:
    +200 Mhz max CPU clock
    Krait 300 CPU cores
    Adreno 320 GPU http://forums.crackberry.com/rumored...arison-836133/
    Last edited by Maxxxpower; 04-10-15 at 07:58 AM.
    04-10-15 06:31 AM
  20. Jakobroxx's Avatar
    What's a slider?

    Posted via CB10
    04-10-15 06:46 AM
  21. Meok's Avatar
    People need to realise that Chen is about profitability. The Leap is not a loss. The Z30 is a loss at the price they've had to sell them at, so the leap replaces what the Z30 is now (not what it was when it first launched) and it makes sense. Picture it as a way to continue selling the Z30 but make a profit from doing so.

    Posted via CB10
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    04-10-15 09:07 AM
  22. kbz1960's Avatar
    People need to realise that Chen is about profitability. The Leap is not a loss. The Z30 is a loss at the price they've had to sell them at, so the leap replaces what the Z30 is now (not what it was when it first launched) and it makes sense. Picture it as a way to continue selling the Z30 but make a profit from doing so.

    Posted via CB10
    It has older chips than the Z30 so how is that the new Z30?

    Not saying it's a bad phone but it's no Z30.
    04-10-15 09:10 AM
  23. thanasi's Avatar
    No.

    Wrong specs. Both have an Adreno 225.
    The SoC is from 2012 and was already outdated by the time Z10 launched.
    Exactly what I thought.

    Posted via CB10
    04-10-15 02:28 PM
  24. Bravurag's Avatar
    Leap is a good device but what is the use of launching it with the same specs, camera and display as z10. If it was launched 2 years ago than it might be popular. Now it's just ok.
    Waiting for the slider. It will be sure as innovative as BlackBerry passport.

    Posted via CB10
    Samsung just launched glaxy grand prime with 1Ghz and 1 Ghz ram! Was samsung done anything wrong???

    Posted via CB10
    04-10-15 03:30 PM
  25. Aju's Avatar
    Samsung just launched glaxy grand prime with 1Ghz and 1 Ghz ram! Was samsung done anything wrong???

    Posted via CB10
    People doesnt understand OS and specs should be all about spec. If the spec is far enough to run the OS faster than the phones with More specs than this which lags in their OS performance.
    And about samsung, samsung releases a bunch load of phones, so ppl never really realizes unless it is flagship.
    Iphone 6 can be taken into account ppl...

    Posted via CB10
    04-10-15 04:26 PM
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